Nice sony, I'm not really trying to piss anyone off and I'm not trying to say it's bad to use an underlay. All these vectored cars are cool, but I'd really be impressed if someone could make up their own car or things rather than using an underlay. These vectors are just about how long it take to do the same pic as the underlay. I've never tried that but for a class before I had to make a car for my marker class and I tried to do one on my own instead of using an underlay but I didn't do so well. So, it's a challenge to myself as well, which honestly I'd dread a little. It sounds easier to try to draw one or do one in CAD. I found some early attempts -->