my first gt4 drift video plz leave some comments

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this is my first video on gt4...im still trying to get use to the tuning and drifting in this game...it feels a whole lot different so yeah i kno i messed up ALOT but i tried and thats what matters...if yall have anytips just drop a line thanks...oh yeah by the way after the drifting i put a little something extra for you peoples to see ...oh yeah and REAL SORRY but i had to use angel fire cause i'm a cheap ass azn :yuck:

ER34 Blitz Skyline Drift attempt and then break

oh yeah and if ur interested in the stuff i did at the end they are listed in order
Flares-EXTREMELY DIFFICULT
Inverted hollow back-EXTREMELY DANGEROUS
PLanches-EXTREMELY HARD and requires massive tricep abdominal and latisimus strength

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So that's why you called yourself BreakaBoi. :)

About your drift, just practice. I'm still having difficulty getting my AWD to go sideways.
 
wow...Where to begin. And I'm neither a dancer nor a drifter...

Video taping directly from your TV is perhaps the worst way to transfer a replay to Video. Between the TV constantly flickering out and blacking out portions of the video, the poor driving skills, the complete lack of any editing, and the choice of music that didn't even come close to matching with scene changes it was hard to get anything to critique. Off track, spin outs, random drift spot choices, misaligned with corners....Where to begin.

How about:

You've done nothing more than video a very poorly driven lap around a track. Then slap some bad music into a recording of it. Since there wasn't really anything to critique after that, end of Drift criticism.

Should I even bother with the last three "moves"? Sure.

Ross Powers is an Olympic Gold Medal Snowboarder. I've had the pleasure on many occasions to ride with him. Only because he and my brother are best friends. Often while watching him launch 12+ feet out of a pipe, I think to myself "Hey, I can do that easily."

Then he lands smoothly. Which I couldn't nor ever hope to.

Which brings me to your breakdancing. It's great that you included it, but the first move was the only one that looks remotely like you managed to come out of. The second one was botched completely. The last one, you were not smooth with at all.

Your response, at this point, is "Well, Mr. Critical, can you do it?" No, I can't but that's not the point. I could easily post up some of my 3D CAD and animation work and it'd be different.

If you're going to post up a drift movie, make it worth the time it takes to download it.

Honestly, the 38k/sec time to download an 8 meg movie was a waste.

Can you, next time (because I don't want you to give up), spend more than 15 minutes putting a movie together?

Oh, and I'll even skip discussing your lack of grammar and punctuation in your post. Please refer to the TOS for that.

Yes, this is harsh criticism. I'd like to see top notch movies posted here on GTPlanet. Go hard, go long or go home.

AO
 
Damn, I'm sorry, but I could not stand that music 👎 . And I think the last three things on your video don't even pertain to drifting... could just be me though....

Two words for your drifting: More Practice!
 
Der Alta- I dont mean any offense man but dont you think you might be scaring or as giving the wrong impression of the attitude people have on these forums to beginning drifters? Its perfectly fine to demand that people put more work into their vids before posting them than maybe he did and for god sakes dont include break danceing video in their drift videos lol... I completly agree with you on that. But the general attitude should be more positive and supportive, not quite so relentlessly condescending. Otherwise alot of people who are still learning (most everyone still is in gt4) are going to be reluctant about putting out any kind of potentially great amateur drift video for fear of being torn to shreds verbally, instead of being postively encouraged as well as offered polite constructive criticism on their vid. :scared: :)

That being said, you need to practice alot more on your drifting before compiling a video steve. If your going to videotape straight from one replay, you need to at least make sure you dont have any spins or severe messups. You also need to at least have the song end when the video does. These are basic editing 'rules' that everyone should follow. Let us see the best of what you have to offer, not the good and bad mixed together. If you remade the same video while following those tips it would be a whoole lot more enjoyable.
 
Thx for posting, i dont feel like im that bad anymore. XD

Theres been enough critisizm already... but the recording was awful... it felt as if i was watching the video through somebodys own vision and they were very tired and uninterested in what you were doing. Which is very well since it doesnt look like you tried to refine your run around the course.
 
after reading the reviews, i still dont know why i took the time to download this....
i guess my curiosity got the better of me

after watching that with the sound muted (music = 👎 ), I've found myself slightly lost for words

i think AO hit the nail on the head. I'm not going to gripe about you taping the screen. If thats the only method you have of recording a vid, well then so be it.

,,,i'm just lost trying to figure out where to start on this one...
You definitely should have put more time and consideration into this. I'm going to guess that this is the first lap you attempted drifting on Deep Forest, and that you havent given more than 2 ounces of consideration to car setup. You were just in a rush to get something uploaded, right?

If you're going to release a vid of a full lap, make sure the lap is clean - no major 4 wheel off track excursions, no running into walls on straights (no idea what that was about), and most of all NO SPINNING

You didnt look like you had chosen any drift technique at all, in any turn. It looked very much like you were just turning in super hard, mashing the gas, this followed by excessive countersteering (sometimes before any slip was even apparent), twitchy car behavior, and a spin more often than not. This doesnt work in gt4, it barely even worked in gt3...
Try minimizing the steerings inputs a little bit more, a 5 degree slip angle doesnt require 35 degrees of countersteering. Moderate and modulate.

I feel a bit bad for picking this vid apart so much, but I have no idea what else to do, if not this

I realize the need to upload a video and recieve feedback to improve, but I think that at least a little practice is necessary before this can be done with any effect

sorry, but please dont feel discouraged, with more practice comes more improvement. I just think you should have held off a little longer before uploading your first vid.
 
I'm starting to collect my own work to make a drift vid from ( okay, I've only got one lap recorded..I'm new at this stuff! ).

I've got the capture card..it does okay, other than some serious feedback when the car is close to the screen and the engine is revving high...

But I digress. What program is easiest to use for video editing? I have no idea of what to do with Adobe Premiere. I've never done any video editing. What would you guys suggest for a simple to use program that will get the job done? I basically want to pick and choose the segments in the replay that I want to put together, with a music track ...and hopefully get it synched.

What are you guys using to make some of these replay vids with?
 
KurtG
Der Alta- Dont you think you might be scaring as well as giving the wrong impression of the attitude people have on these forums to beginning drifters? Its perfectly fine to demand that people put more work into their vids before posting them than maybe he did and for god sakes dont include break danceing video in their drift videos lol... I completly agree with you on that.
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As I typed that up, I had second thoughts about what I was typing. Then I went back and watched it a second and a third time. It was bad. Real bad. And not in the sense that his technique or skill needed insight, but bad in that he didn't even try to make it halfway decent.

The inclusion of the Break Dancing wasn't necessarily a bad thing, if it had been a compelte process. Honestly, they matched well, he began the execution of each portion but just couldn't come through for a finish.

But the general attitude should be positive and supportive, not quite so relentlessly condescending. Otherwise alot of people who are still learning (most everyone still is in gt4) are going to be reluctant about putting out any kind of potentially great amateur drift video for fear of being torn to shreds verbally, instead of being postively encouraged as well as offered polite constructive criticism on their vid. :scared: :)
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Yes, if the video merits constructive criticism and the person gave the appearance of trying, I would have been out of line. When there is a good video and someone shows promise, I try very hard to point out good features and points of improvement. That is what makes GTPlanet one of the best drifting centers on the web. That's why I want this to continue to improve.

What BreakBoi has done is the equivalent of yelling "Hey! Look! I can jump off the diving board!" then falling into the water. ANy one can fall into the water, I've done it quite spectacularly. 35 foot high rock ledge, flat on my back, knocked unconcious, nearly drowned, trip to the ER and was bed ridden for a week till my neck healed. If you're going to do it, do it with an attempt at aiming high. Don't do it rushed to just say you've done it.

You know what I'd really love to see? I'd absolutely love it, if BreakBoi took two weeks, drove that track and car till he's 2.3 meters shy of maniacal laughter, took 4 best laps, edited them in Windows Media player, set it to music with a beat timed to the clips and posted it up to make me eat my words. I'd personally host his 30 meg video and kill my bandwidth to do it. I'd happily foot the bill for two months of GTpremium for him as well. It's been served to me before and I'll eat it again, but cold crow tastes best after someon like Steve has proven me wrong. Consider my gauntlet thrown

I'm not in any way going to show the banal video of someone going halfway when I've seen what some of the GTP members are capable of.

Yes, BreakBoi is learning. I am, TankSpanker and Swift are as well. We all are. But if we're going to count that video as acceptable on a learning curve, it becomes status acceptable to submit a seriously less than stellar example. I'm not going to give BB any credit, respect or honor for posting it. I will certainly do so if he comes back in two months, says "I've downloaded every available video on GTP, learned, analyzed, traced, disssected and reviewed them and I'm presenting this new video only to shove it down DA's throat and tell him to screw himself." Then he will have more than my respect. He'll have yours.

And that is more important than mine, any day.

AO
 
I'll just echo what Der Alta and Tankspanker have said.

I've seen new members videos before where the driver was all over the place. But it was obvious he was try to drift. This guy wasn't really trying. Just all over.

Let us hope that other new members give it there best effort before posting a vid. I didn't say best skill, but honest effort. It's very easy to tell when someone puts effort into it.
 
I completly agree with everything you guys said. I just thought it was a bit of a punch in the face, of course, at that point in time, i hadnt actually seen the video lol. Ive got it to work since then. It wasnt clear just how little effort was put in and I just couldnt imagine he would have some of the blatant editing missteps which he did. I sincerly hope he doesnt give up, improves his skills, has alot of fun drifting and learns from his mistakes when he creates his next vid. I agree the minimal standard should be set higher than his vid too. Again no offense meant, Der Alta. After seeing his vid i wouldnt say your original comments were off base.
 
w0w.. im speechless......... "hahahahhaaha" sorry, *resumes posture* ahem, anyways yea, you seriously need work, no offense but you know what I mean. Keep practicing though. oh btw the breakdancing was ok.. im not a breakdancing fan, im more of a Popper. !^_^! three words from a student of the art of drifting, "Practice Practice Practice!!"
 
d3p0
This is the best video I have ever seen, you people are just hating because he has the moves and you don't.
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Right. His moves aren't even dangerous. They may look it, but it just takes practice. I did used to be a breaker, 3 years dancing. Gave up to continue studies.

Flare : A simple move that requires strength in the swing, and timing to continue it.

Hollow-Back : This is hard, but not dangerous. You will ALWAYS fall onto your legs when you fall over. That's why the legs are bent backwards in the first place. The inverted version is just your legs are moved to the side of your body.

Planches : A handstand with your arms bent, and in a different position, with your legs out. This does take strength. But there is nothing dangerous about it.
 
i agree w/ tank in that you might should've held off on creating the vid and posting it so soon. i'm not that great of a drifter yet, but i think i should have a vid barely worthy of posting as soon as i get the dazzle digital vid creator... =P i used break back in high school, those tricks aren't the hardest but you still gotta know what your doing to be able to get them down. the music on your vid was kinda wierd for a drift vid, but if you like it when you drifting then use it. gotta love the song when it gets to the apache part... fresh prince of bel air manG! APACHE! JUMP ON IT! JUMP ON IT! :)
 
Der Alta
As I typed that up, I had second thoughts about what I was typing. Then I went back and watched it a second and a third time. It was bad. Real bad. And not in the sense that his technique or skill needed insight, but bad in that he didn't even try to make it halfway decent.

I will certainly do so if he comes back in two months, says "I've downloaded every available video on GTP, learned, analyzed, traced, disssected and reviewed them and I'm presenting this new video only to shove it down DA's throat and tell him to screw himself." Then he will have more than my respect. He'll have yours.

And that is more important than mine, any day.

AO
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I think you might need to edit that post to a bit less confrontating then? Cause I think it'll "impact" all the noobs out here, and I haven't seen BB since this, you've already appologised(if I read it correctly), but I think all the noobs that are still coming here to learn and see drifting might be affected by it too and will be thinking like "..............:scared:..........." You should see my first GT3 vids. they're NOT edited, filmed from TV, and without any music (I mean like "go to the GT3 drifting forum and start downloading"), and well, I didn't realise editing was THAT important so...........it's just a bit disappointing when you realise that someone would avoid this GT4 section (meaning BB) for a while cause of this post, so can you edit this please??

Edit: And YEAH I would also respect it when he did that:lol: Hope he does though

Edit2: Ow well I just heard a couple of things from DA, so that I realise that no noob has to worry about their quality of drifting, cause well.........this has a sorta history to it, just DON'T MAKE the same mistake twice, cause that's pretty much the reason for all of this, if you know what I mean.....
 

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