My Mazda doesn't like corners

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I have wrecked my perfectly good Mazda RX-7. It was originally a 261bhp model but now has 381bhp. It also has the full suspension and brakes.

Before getting the suspension the OEM setup was alright, but obviously struggled with the power.

As soon as i fitted the full suspension setup it understeered badly, i fiddled around a bit and now have stupid spring rates (18F, 7R). Thats the only way of countering some understeer on the tighter corners but on the long corners it is awful, i get whupped. I also have some more neg camber (4 all round) and have lowered the car my an additional 10mm or so (105mmF, 108mmR.

The car is just so frustrating to drive, and is spoiling the game for me, can anyone help?

Thanks,

-Rob
 
Thanks for your input.

I'll try the the first two, but why make the front softer? I made the spring rates so widly different so the rear would be nice and loose (even though in RL you would have a stiff rear not front) - which it still isn't - so making the front softer will just make it understeer ???


-Rob
 
BlackNSX
The car is just so frustrating to drive, and is spoiling the game for me, can anyone help?
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You didn't wreck it bro, the programmers did. It's spoiling it a bit for me too. The problem is just the car in general. For just messing around with weak competition it's fun to drive. It almost HAS to be a track with wide turns and not sharp ones. The idea is to just BRAKE MAD EARLY. I lowered mine all the way, stiffened the springs, and maybe later I'll try to adjust the Toe and Camber to iron out the understeer.

It's the brakes that kill me - GOD they suck. I dumped thousands of $$$ into the Type-R Brahurst and it's still a piece of crap. More than anything you just have to totally adjust your driving style with this car. It's a special needs car just like the Ford GT! :) I'll tell ya, not all the cars can drive like the LM and JGTC cars. Hot damn do I love every single LM car. My quest is just to grab that NSX-R LM 02 (dead sexy car)

Anyway, good luck if you use driving aids put the Understeer to 15. Also brake controller to 18/16 helped me a bit. Gonna try 24/24 💡
 
Hey... i'm just not gonna use it, but will keep it as it was my first car and i'm sentimental like that! The NSX is a better car, i'm winning equivalent races now in a S-Zero with no engine mods. I'm going to try your set up changes though, cheers! What i sucky though was in Prologue the RX7 was good fun..

-Rob
 
To fight the understeer lower the front end bound and stiffen the front springs a little bit. well I would lower you 18F setting you ahve to like 12f and leave the 7r like it is and start there. Also change you break levels to 5f/4r and set you swaybars to 5f/4r and you camber to 2.4f/1.2r and see how that works out for you.

Set you ride hieght to about 15mm over the lowest setting also and 2-3mm higher in the rear then in the front.

Hope this helps and let me know if either way please.
 
DopeStar
To fight the understeer lower the front end bound and stiffen the front springs a little bit. well I would lower you 18F setting you ahve to like 12f and leave the 7r like it is and start there. Also change you break levels to 5f/4r and set you swaybars to 5f/4r and you camber to 2.4f/1.2r and see how that works out for you.

Set you ride hieght to about 15mm over the lowest setting also and 2-3mm higher in the rear then in the front.

Hope this helps and let me know if either way please.
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Indeed DopeStar, although I'm far away from home and won't be able to verify the settings on the game before this weekend, I agree on many things with you, but have also some little adjustments / comments:

* indeed: 18f - 7r is really weird, that's what I would do to make a FR car deliberately understeer.

* I think I would make the back a little stiffer: about 9: 12/7 corresponds to a 63/37 weight repartition, which seams a little exagerated.

* For GT3 this brakes setting would have been to soft, unless you are a tail-braker. For GT4, I don't know yet.

* For the bars, as a principle I never but stiffer bars in the front than in the back.

* Perhaps some negative front toe-out could better cornering: -1 or -2.
 
Pontiac Le Mans
Indeed DopeStar, although I'm far away from home and won't be able to verify the settings on the game before this weekend, I agree on many things with you, but have also some little adjustments / comments:
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Awsome I love the feed back.

Pontiac Le Mans
* indeed: 18f - 7r is really weird, that's what I would do to make a FR car deliberately understeer.
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Exactly

Pontiac Le Mans
* I think I would make the back a little stiffer: about 9: 12/7 corresponds to a 63/37 weight repartition, which seams a little exagerated.
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Ive owned two very real RX-7s(an 87 and a 91) and ran 450lbs springs up front and 350lbs out back which would be 56/44 weight repartition so yes thats a bit exaggerated try around 9 like said. The car(my real RX-7s) would oversteer way before it would understeer unless under heavy breaking and other various exagerated actions.

Pontiac Le Mans
* For GT3 this brakes setting would have been to soft, unless you are a tail-braker. For GT4, I don't know yet.
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I like my brakes softer since i do most of my breaking a straight line on a DS2 controller where its harder to feather the brake pedal when they start to lock up. This way I can just mash the brake button and not worry about it to much.

Pontiac Le Mans
* For the bars, as a principle I never but stiffer bars in the front than in the back.
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The sway bars I ran on my real RX-7, well the front was about twice as thick as it was in the back, 1 3/4"F and 7/8"R in inches or so. The reason for stiffer front and softer rear is that the rear tires are drive tires they need to stay on the ground since they have more work to do then the fronts. the softer swaybar tends to pull the inside tire off the ground less allowing it to have more usuable traction when underpower while the front tires can work harder at steering and keeping the car level.

Pontiac Le Mans
* Perhaps some negative front toe-out could better cornering: -1 or -2.
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Ill try this, I havent messed with toe angle to much yet, Im having a hard enough time figureing out there suspension physics of the game.

These settings were based off of a real car set up for my driving style which consists of a littel over steer, everything but the dampeners, since they are interesting to work with in the game.
 
Thanks guys, i will try them out. I know what you mean about my spring rates, but every other way i went i got more understeer, so i'm inclined to agree with the large thread about set ups being in reverse.

However, i didn't fiddle with the other settings much so hopefully you're right. I will let you know.

Thanks again.

-Rob
 

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