Nascar Cars different

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Searching gave me mixed answers.

Some said yes, some said no.

I'm mainly concerned with the two cars in the arcade car list.

The Jeff Gordon #24 Impala and the Dale Jr #88 Impala.

I would think they would be the same, but didn't know if anyone had proved or disproved that.

Thanks
 
As of Spec 2.0 the 2010 Arcade NASCARs were replaced with 2011 models. The 2010 models are still available to buy in GT Mode though.
 
They perform the same. The only difference between the cars I've found (that isn't aesthetic) is that some of the 2010 cars' spring rates can be set slightly lower than the other 2010 cars and the 2011 cars.
 
I can tell you without a doubt that all NASCAR cars are the same performance wise. There are absolutely no differences at all. This comes from many, many hours of testing at Daytona and various other tracks. Now, my friend mastergamer (theycallmeherbie ) will no doubt be in here to tell you otherwise and since I have yet to see any concrete evidence of his claims, we simply agree to disagree. The specs on these cars are all the exact same, so what makes anyone think that one better than the other is beyond me. All of my cars are all within .020 of each other. Thats proof enough for me. Furthermore, in all of my online racing, I have never seen one make come in and dominate. Further proof for me. So, having said that, just hop in your favorite NASCAR car and race....you will have just as good of a shot at winning as anyone else. Peace.
 
KB18FAN
I can tell you without a doubt that all NASCAR cars are the same performance wise. There are absolutely no differences at all. This comes from many, many hours of testing at Daytona and various other tracks. Now, my friend mastergamer (theycallmeherbie ) will no doubt be in here to tell you otherwise and since I have yet to see any concrete evidence of his claims, we simply agree to disagree. The specs on these cars are all the exact same, so what makes anyone think that one better than the other is beyond me. All of my cars are all within .020 of each other. Thats proof enough for me. Furthermore, in all of my online racing, I have never seen one make come in and dominate. Further proof for me. So, having said that, just hop in your favorite NASCAR car and race....you will have just as good of a shot at winning as anyone else. Peace.
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There is a tiny bit of difference. Toyota's tend to be better bump drafting, Chevrolets for hot laps and Ford's all round. Difference is marginal, but it does exist.
 
KB18FAN
I can tell you without a doubt that all NASCAR cars are the same performance wise. There are absolutely no differences at all. This comes from many, many hours of testing at Daytona and various other tracks. Now, my friend mastergamer (theycallmeherbie ) will no doubt be in here to tell you otherwise and since I have yet to see any concrete evidence of his claims, we simply agree to disagree. The specs on these cars are all the exact same, so what makes anyone think that one better than the other is beyond me. All of my cars are all within .020 of each other. Thats proof enough for me. Furthermore, in all of my online racing, I have never seen one make come in and dominate. Further proof for me. So, having said that, just hop in your favorite NASCAR car and race....you will have just as good of a shot at winning as anyone else. Peace.
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👍 Yes he is correct,nobody drives every lap the same,so you will get different lap times every lap.I have spent just as many hours as KB18 and Herbie testing and .010 means squat.
 
I figured that they were the same, because if one car was better, it would be used all the time in NASCAR rooms.

Thanks for the input.
 
I race Nascar Indy quite often and I personally know that I cannot simply put the same setup on all of my cars because it will not work. For example the 2011 Jeff Gordon car has very different characteristics than the 2011 Tony Stewart car, even though they are both Chevys.
 
V10viperSRT
I race Nascar Indy quite often and I personally know that I cannot simply put the same setup on all of my cars because it will not work. For example the 2011 Jeff Gordon car has very different characteristics than the 2011 Tony Stewart car, even though they are both Chevys.
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Thats funny because I can do the same thing and there is no difference at all. I have the same setup on all my cars, track specific of course, and they all handle the same, they all run very close lap times, and I can win races with any of them. Not trying to be an ass, but I think its just your imagination. Until someone can come up with some cocrete proof, you are not going to convince me otherwise. I have ran too many races and put in an endless amount of hours testing and tuning these cars not to know what I'm talking about. If you want to believe it, thats fine but don't go stating it as fact as it is not. Sorry if a bit harsh and nothing personal to you at all.
 
KB18FAN
Thats funny because I can do the same thing and there is no difference at all. I have the same setup on all my cars, track specific of course, and they all handle the same, they all run very close lap times, and I can win races with any of them. Not trying to be an ass, but I think its just your imagination. Until someone can come up with some cocrete proof, you are not going to convince me otherwise. I have ran too many races and put in an endless amount of hours testing and tuning these cars not to know what I'm talking about. If you want to believe it, thats fine but don't go stating it as fact as it is not. Sorry if a bit harsh and nothing personal to you at all.
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I also believe its a placebo effect. This usually happens to those that focus more on tuning than driving.

Without a proper and consistent baseline of performance, its easy to confuse sensations while driving. Test drivers know what to look for, both in the car, and in themselves.

If you aren't consistent when stock, you'll never reach the full potential of a good tune.
 
Ok here is a baseline Nascar setup.It runs just fine.Test this with your 3 cars.

Aero Front 20 Rear 45
LSD 60/60/15
Ride Height Front 15 Rear 15
Spring Rate Front 18.5 Rear 20
Damp Ext Front 8 Rear 5
Damp Comp Front 8 Rear 5
Anti Roll Front 4 Rear 4

Camber Front 0 Rear 0
Toe Front -0.25 Rear -0.25
Tranny Reset to default
Top speed 249 MPH
Final gear 3.429
All aids off use only abs 1 if you have to pit.

Try that on all 3 cars and you tell me the difference.
 
There is no difference in performance at all. They will all generate 892 hp, and the same amount of torque. Unaltered, will run the same speed, braking power, grip, and cornering.

The only noticable differences are the engine notes they produce from manufacturer to another. Weirdly, Gordon's 2011 car sounds drastically akin to a GT40 Mk. IV if you listen close enough.

The 2011 Impalas (88, 24, 48, and 14) have their exhaust on the driver's side, and the 24 is missing side skirts on both sides. It is also the only '11 spec Impala to have an audible motor from the cockpit.


There aren't any major performance differences amongst the cars. Just some minor inaccuracies here and there.
 
Racing at Indy with the dirty air and quickly wearing soft tires you will find that the same setup for each car will simply not work
 
V10viperSRT
Racing at Indy with the dirty air and quickly wearing soft tires you will find that the same setup for each car will simply not work
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I beg to differ with you. I can run the same setup on any car and times will be real close with no handling differernce. Dirty air makes no difference, neither do tires unless you have softs on one car and hards on the other, then of course they will be different. This goes for road courses also. One tune will work on all cars. I've done way to much testing for you to tell me otherwise. Believe what you want, but my test results tell me otherwise.
 
Sluffer
Real NASCARS are different from another, so why can't the ones in GT5 be different from one another?
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Because I doubt PD wanted everybody to use the same car. I assume they wanted you to use your favorite drivers' car, which is why they put so many in there.

Honestly I think KB knows what he's talking about. Seems like a NASCAR dude. Just look at his avatar. :lol:
 
Sluffer
Real NASCARS are different from another, so why can't the ones in GT5 be different from one another?
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Because in NASCAR, the differences are minute. There's no point in trying to poke every single micrometer worth of difference in what is supposed to be a Spec-ish series.

If GT5 had the LMP Challenge class Oreca FLM09, I'm sure that they would all be the same, even though each car will have typical inconsistencies in manufacture. You cant build a "Perfect" copy of anything, and thus, each car, even in a Spec series, will be slightly different.


I'm going to assume that because the NASCAR challenge requires that you use the Impala, that would mean you get more practice in that car. Thus, if there is differences in cars, you would think that the Impala is fastest, because you got the most practice in it.

Someone tweet it to Kaz.
 
Ok, then what about this car - Toyota Camry #20 Joey Logano NASCAR Gamestop '10? It has 892hp compared to for example: Toyota Camry #83 Brian Vickers NASCAR '11 – 865hp.
Or there is no difference?
I rarely drive NASCAR cars ... but still, interested to see any opinions. :)
 
f1webberfan
Ok, then what about this car - Toyota Camry #20 Joey Logano NASCAR Gamestop '10? It has 892hp compared to for example: Toyota Camry #83 Brian Vickers NASCAR '11 – 865hp.
Or there is no difference?
I rarely drive NASCAR cars ... but still, interested to see any opinions. :)
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They all have the exact same stats. You must have changed the oil or something.
 
You've got some serious breaking and entering to do to get these things to full power.:sly:

they all start out from the dealer at 824, and peak at 892, but after the first oil change will hit 865
 
Every Nascar when fully broken in reaches a maximum HP of 892.
That's it. The Gamestop car was a pre-order car and is no different than any other car. Please unless someone can provide concrete data to prove there is a difference put this to sleep.
 
We had this discussion about the Gamestop car before in another thread. The only difference with that car is that it doesn't need breaking in. You change the oil for the first time and it goes to 892 HP, no breaking in required. The others need to be driven 200 miles with an oil change to reach 892 HP. Also, the Gamestop car costs alot less to rebuild the engine and restore the chassis in GT Auto. Other than that, Gamestop car is the same as the others and it does not have magical powers as some may try to lead you to believe. Hope this clears things up for you. Any more questions just ask. When it comes to NASCAR in this game, I have done much testing and busted many so called myths in this game and have plenty of data to back me up. Yes, its true, I eat, sleep, and breath NASCAR and have for 40 of my 46 years and have played every NASCAR game known to man, lol. Peace.
 
KB18FAN
We had this discussion about the Gamestop car before in another thread. The only difference with that car is that it doesn't need breaking in. You change the oil for the first time and it goes to 892 HP, no breaking in required. The others need to be driven 200 miles with an oil change to reach 892 HP. Also, the Gamestop car costs alot less to rebuild the engine and restore the chassis in GT Auto. Other than that, Gamestop car is the same as the others and it does not have magical powers as some may try to lead you to believe. Hope this clears things up for you. Any more questions just ask. When it comes to NASCAR in this game, I have done much testing and busted many so called myths in this game and have plenty of data to back me up. Yes, its true, I eat, sleep, and breath NASCAR for 40 of my 46 years and have played every NASCAR game known to man, lol. Peace.
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I guess us old guys get the early worm so to speak. LOL.
 
OK, I get it now. No oil change, lower credits for engine/chassis rebuild.
A myth busted?
Better - things explained.
Jeesh.
 

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