NASCAR Hall of Fame

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Dale and Rusty are in the public eye in the present. As some move on, new fans come in who have no idea who BP or Ned Jarrett are, but they know Dale and Rusty...OK I can't do this. This was the argument that put DJ in according to Mike Joy. Yeeeaaahhh...

As for Rick, I believe the biggest argument is that he is still VERY active. Not a great one, but I don't know the rules either.
 
I don't think there's a restriction to anyone currently active in the sport in any way, except for current drivers for obvious reasons.
 
Blitz24
Yes he does, but not over who should be in there, such as those who may die before their election, or Joe Weatherly, who has won MORE championships than Jarrett and they STILL haven't figured out to put in.
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Who's that? Is he like related to Joe Nemechek?
 
No, it's because a good part of the voting committee are part of the (current) media, and they like putting in people they've gotten to know through their (recent) years in the sport through either covering them or working alongside them.
 
ICEYOU
Who's that? Is he like related to Joe Nemechek?
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I really hope you are kidding. If you aren't, you didn't even bother to look up Weatherly and moreover decided to make a very idiotic comment such as that, then you don't deserve to be told the answer.
 
Joe Weatherly is the single most improbable repeat champion of all time, winning the championship in 1962 with Bud Moore, then running for 13 different owners in 1963 and defeating Richard Petty in the championship chase........ who's father Lee, by the way, respected Weatherly enough to field him in a Petty Enterprises Plymouth on many different occasions.
Making fun of him by comparing him to a driver who has, in 108 races since 2010, one lead lap finish, on the basis that their first name is both "Joe" is not a joking matter whatsoever.
(And we're talking about a future Hall of Famer known as the Clown Prince of Racing, who once drove a qualifying lap wearing a Peter Pan costume, while probably hung over)
 
Some new things are going to be announced at Vegas, like eligibility and voting committee.
The voting in particular really needed to be overhauled. Too many media people and not enough of the old guard.
The Sprint Cup champ is now going to have a vote, which I'm.... okay with? It's good to have an active competitor vote but at the same time I'm afraid they'll vote for people they've raced against before.
I'll update the OP sometime before Vegas to include next year's inductees and after Vegas will detail eligibility and voting panel more in depth.
 
Considering I was 1 for 5, I'll take the remaining 4 for now.
BKGlover
If I had a vote, my 2014 class wold look like this:

Anne B. France - Big Bill's Wife, meaning had she not supported him (as husband and wife should) and left him to his devices, NASCAR may have failed, and Daytona may not have existed.

Ray Fox - His cars won, and they made drivers famous. 1955- Fireball Roberts (Daytona Beach DQ); 1956 for Carl Keikhaefer's cars; the 1960 Daytona 500 winning Pontiac driven by Junior Johnson, along with three more wins by David Pearson. And that's before he started his own team. Buck Baker, Buddy Baker, Darel Dieringer, Junior Johnson, Fred Lorenzen, Fireball Roberts, Cale Yarborough, and LeeRoy Yarbrough all drove for him from '62-'72. Then he became NASCAR's engine inspector in 1990.

Glen "Fireball" Roberts - Speaking of. To this day he is still a legend in NASCAR lore, unfortunately it's partially due to his death.

Curtis Turner - Funded Charolotte, Won a lot, Fought with Big Bill, Banned, Reinstated, Won some more, stories are endless. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Turner Look for yourself.

Red Byron - The first Champion in both NASCAR and Cup history. Case made.
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ICEYOU
Jimmie Johnson now has 65 chevy cup wins now next on his list is 7-TIME Champ dale earnhardt.
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Or he could just surpass Earnhardt's number of wins before he gets to 7 since that is a real possibility. And even if JJ doesn't win a sixth or seventh championship, he is guaranteed a hall of fame spot.
 
Ohhhh boy! More modifications to HoF, and some of these are big.

HoF Eligibility: Drivers who competed for 10 years and are three years retired are eligible (this is the standing rule). Now, if a 10 year driver reaches 55 years old as of Dec. 31 the prior year, said driver will be eligible for the next years nominations immediately. Adding to that is another wrinkle that if a driver has competed for 30 years as of Dec. 31 the prior year, that driver will be eligible for nomination next cycle. The key here is that the latter two points will NOT require the driver be retired, and could in fact be active and very competitive.

HoF Nominations: The number of nominees will drop from 25 to 20.

New Award: Landmark Award for Outstanding Contributions to NASCAR- speaks for itself really. Five will be nominated, one recipient, and will be an annual award.

Nomination Committee Stuff: The Committee will assemble in Daytona during Speedweeks, face-to-face for the first time, to establish the 2015 HoF ballot and the Landmark award ballot. However, members of the committee who were on the previous year's HoF ballot or the current ballot will be disqualified from nominating and voting processes for as long as they are still currently in the discussion. Once said person has been inducted or dropped from the ballot, they are once again eligible. The same procedure will be in place for the voting panels.

And the one we all know: The reigning Sprint Cup champion will have a seat, and a vote, in the Final Voting Panel for the HoF on May 21, during Coke 600 week.

Some people are going to get the shaft, but the upside is that Mark Martin and Ron Hornaday, amongst others, can be inducted ASAP.
 
30 years is a long time, even if you started in NASCAR in your teens, you'd be in you're 40's by the time you hit that mark. I don't think it will be an issue once Mark and Ron are either inducted or retire, at least until the Busch brothers are up.

I think I'm gonna go do some research on the drivers, I'll be back.

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I have the list of drivers who ran a race last season who qualify for the HoF, in no particular order:
-Mark Martin (54, 31 Seasons)
-Terry Labonte (57, 36 Seasons)
-Derrike Cope (55, 31 Seasons)
-Mike Harmon (55, 11 Seasons)
-Morgan Shepherd (72, 36 Seasons)
-Ken Schrader (58, 30 Seasons)
-Ron Hornaday, Jr. (55, 22 Seasons)

Now, those who are close by my interpretations (within 5 years and/or seasons):
-Michael Waltrip (50, 29 Seasons)
-Joe Nemechek (50, 25 Seasons)
-Jeff Burton (46, 26 Seasons)
-Jeff Green (51, 24 Seasons)
-Mike Wallace (54, 24 Seasons)
-Kevin Lepage (51, 21 Seasons)
-Kenny Wallace (50, 26 Seasons)
-Todd Bodine (49, 25 Seasons)

I don't know about you, but this isn't a world-changing bunch.
 
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The 30 year rule makes sense when it comes to guys like Terry Labonte, who only runs a few races a year now and isn't going to go out and run for a championship in any series.
Racing is unique in that you can retire and still do a race or two a year for fun like Bill Elliott does, unlike the NFL where you can't go do that.
However, with the lowering of nominees, it looks like some of the original nominees such as Parks or Byron won't be around next season, which makes no sense.
 
Maybe, but then again people are starting to pay attention to this now, and with five classes in the unquestioned members are in. Now is the time to reflect, analyze, and debate. Perhaps it's a spurt of optimism, but I hope that with the technology of today, the fans who are coming around look into the history books and see how we got to this point, for better or worse.
 
http://www.nascar.com/presspass.html

Press conference starting shortly to announce this year's nominees.

And this is the list.

Buddy Baker,won 19 times in NASCAR’s premier (now Sprint Cup) series, including the Daytona 500 and Southern 500

Red Byron, first NASCAR premier series champion, in 1949

Richard Childress, 11-time car owner champion in NASCAR’s three national series

Jerry Cook, six-time NASCAR Modified champion

Bill Elliott, 1988 premier series champion, two-time Daytona 500 winner and 16-time Most Popular Driver

Ray Fox,legendary engine builder and owner of cars driven by Buck Baker, Junior Johnson and others

Rick Hendrick, 14-time car owner champion in NASCAR’s three national series

Bobby Isaac, 1970 NASCAR premier series champion

Terry Labonte, Two-time NASCAR premier series champion

Fred Lorenzen, 26 wins and winner of the Daytona 500 and World 600

Raymond Parks, NASCAR’s first champion car owner

Benny Parsons, 1973 NASCAR premier series champion

Larry Phillips, only five-time NASCAR Whelen All-American Series national champion

Wendell Scott,NASCAR trailblazer was thefirst African-American NASCAR premier series race winner, and first to be nominated for induction into the NASCAR Hall of Fame.

O. Bruton Smith, builder of Charlotte Motor Speedway and architect of Speedway Motorsports Inc.

Mike Stefanik, winner of record-tying nine NASCAR championships

Curtis Turner, early personality, called the "Babe Ruth of stock car racing"

Joe Weatherly, two-time NASCAR premier series champion

Rex White, 1960 NASCAR premier series champion

Robert Yates, won NASCAR premier series championship as both an engine builder and owner

The five nominees for the inaugural Landmark Award are as follows…

H. Clay Earles, founder of Martinsville Speedway

Anne Bledsoe France, helped build the sport with husband Bill France Sr. Affectionately known as "Annie B.," she is the first woman to be nominated for induction into the NASCAR Hall of Fame.

Raymond Parks, NASCAR’s first champion car owner

Ralph Seagraves, formed groundbreaking Winston-NASCAR partnership as executive with R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company

Ken Squier, legendary radio and television broadcaster; inaugural winner / namesake of Squier-Hall Award for NASCAR Media Excellence
 
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I was about to inquire about this.

Landmark Award - Anne B. France. Sorry Ken.

My HOF Ballot for 2015: (in alphabetical order)

Red Byron - THE FIRST CHAMPION, TWICE! He won NASCAR's inaugural 1948 Modified Tour championship and the inaugural 1949 Strictly Stock championship. I'll keep with this one until he gets in.

Ray Fox - His cars won, and they made drivers famous. 1955- Fireball Roberts (Daytona Beach DQ); 1956 for Carl Keikhaefer's cars; the 1960 Daytona 500 winning Pontiac driven by Junior Johnson, along with three more wins by David Pearson. And that's before he started his own team. Buck Baker, Buddy Baker, Darel Dieringer, Junior Johnson, Fred Lorenzen, Fireball Roberts, Cale Yarborough, and LeeRoy Yarbrough all drove for him from '62-'72. Then he became NASCAR's engine inspector in 1990. (Copy-paste of last-years argument.)

Wendell Scott - No Jackie Robinson, but important none the less. Wouldn't make up for being screwed over way back when, but it would be a step in the right direction.

Mike Stefanik - Wait, NINE championships? Right this way, sir.

Curtis Turner - Actually, I can't think of anything better than "Babe Ruth of stock car racing".
 
Landmark- Parks
Class:
Curtis Turner
Rick Hendrick (2nd best team of all time and fast approaching number 1 Petty)
Raymond Parks
Bill Elliott
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