Well, I think its time to reflect on a predictions from earlier in the year:
 
	
		
			
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			Do you think Toyota will win at least five more races before the season ends? Who do you think will be the highest-placed Toyota driver in NASCAR when the season ends?
		
		
	 
 
My answer:
 
	
		
			
				RACECAR
			
		
	
	
		
		
			I do and I'm thinking that With gibbs being the strongest toyota team, one of those drivers, possibly Kyle, most likely be the highest placed driver
		
		
	 
 
As of now, Kyle Busch is the strongest Toyota driver leading the pointsa and toyota have toppled my expectations by winning 9 times this season in cup.
 
Funny enough, my response to both the Horsepower penalty and then the Post race penalty was the same:
	
		
			
				RACECAR
			
		
	
	
		
		
			I'm just gonna say this: you can't stop domination. They really think is this is gonna stop Toyota? Sooner or later, someone is gonna figure that configuration out and beat everyone with it
		
		
	 
And after having both of those put on them, Toyota came out on top both times, at ORP and last night in California, both times with Busch.
 
	
		
	
	
		
		
			There are other things like those Nascar race report commercials and there they always talk about how one redneck hit another redneck and so forth. :shrugs:
		
		
	 
 
 And you'll believe the commercial, which focuses more on the wrecking then the racing, over actually watching the races? There's more to the series then what is advertised on tv. There is actually racing going on. And looking at you post, which happened to correct, I ask yet again:
 
 
	
		
			
				RACECAR
			
		
	
	
		
		
			What point is there to post your "Nascrap" BS in a NASCAR oriented forum?
		
		
	 
 
Which brings one good point Earth mentioned:
 
	
		
			
				Earth
			
		
	
	
		
		
			Seriously, motorsport fans need to quit being such elitests and start respecting other forms of motorsports they don't prefer.
Is it too hard to respect both the raw driving, low technology, close racing of NASCAR, the high speed, high technology of openwheel racing and the endurance of sports car racing?
I'm sure NASCAR fans have their degrading terminology they use for openwheel etc.
All this nonsense is just sickening now.
		
		
	 
 
And I say this: Whats the difference? So what if NASCAR is predominatly southern drivers, driving cars that require more skill then mostly computed assisted things seen on most series cars, they do race. BTW, read 
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			I agree with almost every word there - despite the fact that I never actually hated Kyle. Guys like Solid Fro can't possibly hold on to the Karma Busch stuff for that long - it was one spin, ages ago...
 
That article also holds true for many other motorsports, too. Many Brits and Spaniards hate the opposite side of the Alonso/Hamilton dispute - but fact is, both of them are (relatively) young drivers with talent and skill that few others have, both with many successful years ahead of them, and while they might never be best buddies, they'll have to get along some time. Busch and Earnhardt, too.
		
		
	 
 Exactly. Likewise, this Busch-Edwards incident at bristol will be a thing in the past as well.