Native Languages

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I've known for a while that the AUP restricts all talk on the forum to English. This seems fine, to keep communication smooth lined in the more popular sub-forums.

My idea is to loosen the AUP a bit, and allow some use of native languages, not on the big subforums, where it would do nothing more than cause confusion, but like the Opinions and Current Events Forum, or the Rumble Strip, and letting user post in these in their native languages. Maybe even an entire new subforum dedicated to talk in languages other than English? Just an idea, wonder if it seems valid in any way.

Thoughts?

Nadam se da svatko razumije moje brige.
 
I like the idea but the problem is that most, if not all mods speak English. If you have people talking in every which language, there will be no way for that part of the forum to be moderated correctly due to the language barrier.
 
Schwartz38
I like the idea but the problem is that most, if not all mods speak English. If you have people talking in every which language, there will be no way for that part of the forum to be moderated correctly due to the language barrier.
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And I suppose Google Translate is completely oblivious unless the grammar is proper, fair point. Plus even the time needed to use a translator.

That's one dent, keep 'em coming :D
 
An old response from Jordan:
Jordan
To clarify, it is not OK to post any messages on the site in any language other than English, regardless of whether or not it is public. As stated in the AUP, all messages must be in English. With that said, it has never actually been enforced upon PM's, and no infractions or warnings have ever been issued for it. Indeed, it has never been a source of a problem until last week, when I had to retrieve some PM's after claims of abuse. The offending conversation was in Spanish, and after spending 20 minutes running everything through Google, I still didn't have a good idea of what was going on - extremely irritating, to say the least. In other words, if you're doing anything wrong and I hear about it (and it's not in English), be prepared to make myself and the staff only more angry with you.
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To expand on what Jordan said in, the problem with allowing other languages is it isn't likely that the staff speaks said languages so then we'd need to run all the posts through a translator to make sure you're not violating the AUP. Sadly, the staff just doesn't have that kind of time.
 
TB
An old response from Jordan:

To expand on what Jordan said in, the problem with allowing other languages is it isn't likely that the staff speaks said languages so then we'd need to run all the posts through a translator to make sure you're not violating the AUP. Sadly, the staff just doesn't have that kind of time.
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Fair enough.

It was worth a try, thanks for the response.

Ja ću dodati ovo samo za zabavu. :P
 
Juiposa
Ja ću dodati ovo samo za zabavu. :P
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<-- Can't read/write/speak/eat Croatian.
 
First bit was "I hope everyone understands my concerns".

Second bit: "I'll add this bit just for fun".
 
Jordan, if indeed the mods are all native English speakers and you are faced with a situation similar to the one quoted above, you can keep a list of trustworthy users that have other native languages just in case you need a quick translation of something (like the one astrosdude just posted). Not saying that you'll need it, and you probably won't, but to keep it as a "just in case" item wouldn't be difficult for you.

Not sure how trustworthy I'm considered here but in any case, should you in the future need a quick translation on anything written in portuguese (my native language), spanish or french, you may ask me for it and I'll be glad to help.
 
I can translate gangsta language.

Cos i iz cool :lol:


Unfortunately I can't speak anything other than English :(
 
I do like the idea of practicing my German and Dutch with fellow GTPers in forum threads but I totally understand why posts should be in English.

Jordan, if indeed the mods are all native English speakers and you are faced with a situation similar to the one quoted above, you can keep a list of trustworthy users that have other native languages just in case you need a quick translation of something
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Interesting idea, but making 'language mods' would be a bit of hassle.
 
Not mods, LiquidMazda ( :D ), just a list on a piece of paper. I thought about it reading TB's quote from Jordan and thinking "If he had someone he could quickly ask "What's written here?" he wouldn't need to waste time using online translators.

In fact these online translators can be useful, but most of the time they'll only provide for a few good laughs. Example:

Original (portuguese) text:
Agora que quase todos os meus habituais, de vários anos, companheiros de corridas virtuais se passaram para o mundo iracing, que não me interessa, pouco tenho corrido ou até jogado na PS3. E o único jogo que penso comprar brevemente é o Test Drive Ferrari, na esperança de que tenha uma carreira offline que seja interessante. Há uma vantagem nisto tudo, tenho gasto pouco dinheiro com este vício.

Google Translation result:
Now that almost all of my usual several years, virtual racing companions went to the world iRacing, which does not interest me, I just run or even played on PS3. And the only game I think buying short is the Ferrari test drive in hopes of having an offline career that is interesting. There is an advantage in all this, I have spent some money on this addiction.

My translation:
Now that almost all of my usual, several years old, virtual racing buddies went the iRacing way, something I'm not interested in doing, I barely play or race on the PS3. And the only game I consider buying in the coming months is the Test Drive Ferrari, hoping it has an interesting offline career. There is an good side to all this, though, I have spent much less money recently on my gaming addiction.

Google translation gets close enough but if you are trying to determine "exactly" what was said, it comes short.
 
Juiposa
I've known for a while that the AUP restricts all talk on the forum to English. This seems fine, to keep communication smooth lined in the more popular sub-forums.

My idea is to loosen the AUP a bit, and allow some use of native languages, not on the big subforums, where it would do nothing more than cause confusion, but like the Opinions and Current Events Forum, or the Rumble Strip, and letting user post in these in their native languages. Maybe even an entire new subforum dedicated to talk in languages other than English? Just an idea, wonder if it seems valid in any way.

Thoughts?

Nadam se da svatko razumije moje brige.
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Por mucho que me gusta esta idea para que pueda practicar mi español, me temo que voy a estar de acuerdo con este post:

(As much as I like this idea so I can practice my spanish, I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree with the following post: )

TB
An old response from Jordan:

To expand on what Jordan said in, the problem with allowing other languages is it isn't likely that the staff speaks said languages so then we'd need to run all the posts through a translator to make sure you're not violating the AUP. Sadly, the staff just doesn't have that kind of time.
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The majority of the staff are Anglophone, but we have a few French speakers, some Dutch (and by extension Flemish and Belgian French) and Tagalog. Between us we can rustle up a bit of familiarity with German and Japanese and much less than a bit of familiarity with Scots Gaelic, Welsh, Spanish and Italian.

But, the point is that all of the staff can read every message so that we all can deal with everything posted. We don't want to have to wait until the one guy who speaks Farsi pops online to tell us that the guy who posted in it was advertising his donkey porn and MDMA website...
 
Though it would be cool to be able to use our own language, I can fully see why it would be more difficult for moderation. Also, this is what would happen if I attempted to use my native language over here:

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The native language of GTPlanet is English.

When I want to speak something else I'll step off the planet. Thanks.
 
photonrider
The native language of GTPlanet is English.

When I want to speak something else I'll step off the planet. Thanks.
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If you step off GTPlanet, won't you just wonder off into space? :crazy:
 
So, language lessons for all the Mods and Admins it is. :lol:
 
Lets create the : Learn a language sub forum. I'll learn you guys Dutch, all the nasty words first. :lol:
 
What about the groups? Would you be allowed to speak foreign languages there?
 
My native language is so uncommon.. even I don't understand most of it. :lol:
 
Daniel
What about the groups? Would you be allowed to speak foreign languages there?
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Jordan's response that I quoted was regarding a PM (which I was very, very wrong about, by the way!) so it would apply to the entire site. Basically, if it's posted, the staff needs to be able to read it. In English.
 
MSTER232
If you step off GTPlanet, won't you just wonder off into space? :crazy:
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No. I'll just wonder off the planet. I may wander off into space, too . . . like this thread. ;)

English lesson about the untranslatable:

"Stepping off the planet . . ." is an euphemism. Google is uneducated about it.
 
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