Need help with rallying...

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I got the Logitech driving force wheel about 2 months ago(900 degrees of turning :) ) and as of yet i still cant race in dirt :grumpy: Im great on road courses but no matter how hard i try i cant beat that dam EVO!...I've raced on the dirt courses before with just a normal controller(really easy) and now im in the "hard" section of the courses. I need tips on effectively racing my 544hp WRX in smoky mountain keep in mind im using the driving force wheel :)
 
first off, this is a drifting board. this topic doesnt go here. be ready for this to be moved or closed.

but, i would recommend less horsepower, maybe 400 - 450, you dont want too much for rally. and practice a lot, get used to the car.
 
yeah, because drifters on this board don't know how to rally.

it would probably be better off in the general gt4 section. but, my suggestions would be to use your gears to your advantage as much as possible. also, try to minimize drifting. it's good to slide around here and there, but don't go overboard with crazy angles and etc. the key to dirt racing is control. feather the pedals as much as possible, and, on the other hand, know when to floor it. as with all things, the real true key is just to practice, practice, practice.

good luck.
 
oh yeah, i forgot to say you have to control the throttle more.
goin full throttle will hurt you sometimes. in corners drop of the throttle a bit to give the tires enough grip to keep propelling you forward but still keep enough to have a steady slide.
 
NSXtacy
I got the Logitech driving force wheel about 2 months ago(900 degrees of turning :) ) and as of yet i still cant race in dirt :grumpy: Im great on road courses but no matter how hard i try i cant beat that dam EVO!...I've raced on the dirt courses before with just a normal controller(really easy) and now im in the "hard" section of the courses. I need tips on effectively racing my 544hp WRX in smoky mountain keep in mind im using the driving force wheel :)
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move your hands really fast when u steer......
 
Well, I've done some rally in the Corolla Rally car at 300 HP. The trick is to steer in early and control the cars rotation with the gas and brake. Sliding is fine in rally as static friction is never issue, so you can get quite sideways. Left foot braking is also handy to adjust the cars weight a little bit in corners, espcially in AWD.
 
I'll give you some mental notes ive made over the long time it took me to learn rallying in gt3, which apply in gt4 of course.
First off, make sure your variable center differential is set to 50/50. I couldnt handle the rally raid toyota at all on dirt at first because it was set too much to the rear (just in case you were using a car with the same problem).
Just like on tarmac, on most corners your first step is to line up as far as possible on the opposite side of the track from the corner.
If its a lower speed corner where you can get away with not braking (which is allways better than braking unecessarily), just let off the throttle for a second while steering-in to get the car sliding, then get on the throttle again when your nose is pointing towards the direction your going to want to be travelling when you slide onto the following straight. Never over rotate the nose of your car, it will slow you down. Say your approaching a 180 degree hairpin turn.. even though it may feel fast to enter the corner at high speed, whip the back end around 180 degrees and blast it full power in the opposite direction you came from, its much faster if you get most all of your braking done on the straight. Trail brake a bit into the corner to get your tail out just a bit, immediately get back on the gas to initiate the drift, then try and keep your nose pointed towards the outside wall right after the exit of the corner. Do your best to keep the car at that angle while sliding through the corner, and avoid alot of countersteering. Try to get the car settled into the correct slide path and just hold the wheel straight, doing as little unnecessary countersteering as possible.
The trick is to grasp a feel for the momentum your car needs to be able to just slide around the very inside edge of the turn; too much speed and your going to go flying to the outside and probably spinout, too little and your going to regain enough traction that your going to just accelerate into the wall instead of continuing the slide through the turn.
I would spend all your time on the various rally stage license tests. Watch the demos, watch their braking and accelerating habits. Turn on the visual wheel if you can so you can see the steering inputs, im not sure if you can though. Good luck. I can try and answer any questions you have. Their are a few more techniques im sure others will fill you in on.
 
Rally is Drifting. Drifting started when some guy thought the rally drivers style was cool. So he started to do it on the road. And wal la Drifting was born. Most real rally racers (in real life) use the e-brake to make crazy turns. I tryed it with my 4wd Celica and it helps alot when rallying. Pull the e-brake about 5secs away fromt he turn and tap the brake when needed. Then turn and gas like you would when your drifting. Once you get good you can make a turn as clean as you would if it was just on the road.
-TD
 
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Rally is Drifting. Drifting started when some guy thought the rally drivers style was cool. So he started to do it on the road. And wal la Drifting was born. Most real rally racers (in real life) use the e-brake to make crazy turns. I tryed it with my 4wd Celica and it helps alot when rallying. Pull the e-brake about 5secs away fromt he turn and tap the brake when needed. Then turn and gas like you would when your drifting. Once you get good you can make a turn as clean as you would if it was just on the road.
-TD
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i'd say drifting actually started when people had to powerslide a lot and countersteer and it looked cool so it was made into a new style of driving.
 
Yaaaah.. Im sure rallying wasnt the first time people realized it was fun to put the car in a controlled slide.
About the e-brake suggestion: i wouldnt recommend using the ebrake in GT4, in all of my experience it slows you down. Only use it in :gasp!: an emergency to correct a slide.
 
I find the Special Conditions hall easy to do with the DS2. With the 900 degree wheel, it takes alot of arm work since your continiously goin back and forth, steering and counter steering. 👎
 
i was reading this magazine about how drifting got started this dude was loosing in this race so he got bored and started makin his car slide around corners and the crowd loved it and boom it is born
 
lol, there r many legends to how it started, but mostly started in japan with people racing on the mountain paths, kind of an on-road rally style [my opinion, from other statements read including drift-racers]
 
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lol, there r many legends to how it started, but mostly started in japan with people racing on the mountain paths, kind of an on-road rally style [my opinion, from other statements read including drift-racers]
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I belive your statemenat is correct that drifting was born in the mountains of japan and ppl then didcided to start drifting on track 👍
 
all i hear is that people drift because it looks cool. drifting has real world potential to make a track run faster than a car that is gripping around a course. on a tight corner it is much more beneficial to drift it then it is to brake...hit the apex...and then wait for the car to get back into its powerband to take off, especially in turbo applications. if the rally drivers didn't use a drift technique they would never reach the speeds they do and there racing would be just like all other racing only on dirt.
 

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