New Accord?

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Anyone know what the story is on the new Accord? Any photos? I know a stupid concept was debuted at NAIAS. Anyone know at what show the real deal will debut? I feel that this is the make-or-break generation for the Accord, as the class is no longer able to be dominated unless the car is perfect.
 
If they put that killer 3.7 V6 in it then I would say that they will be right up there with the other popular four doors, and GM will (unfortunately) still be playing catch up.
 
The 3.7 is unlikely, Honda saves the biggest engines for Acura. And you wouldn't want that much power though the front wheels.

Honda has promised to bring a diesel to the US, however, and 2008 seems likely, coinciding with the release of the production Accord.
 
If they put that killer 3.7 V6 in it then I would say that they will be right up there with the other popular four doors, and GM will (unfortunately) still be playing catch up.

Maybe it's time for the 260 or 290-horsepower 3.2-liter from the TL. I agree with Vonie than the 3.7 is too big. Also, it's an SUV engine - Honda has historically done a good job keeping the two separate.
 
Hmm. Well, we pretty much all agree that more than 260 hp would be nice.

How about SH-AWD? Would you want it? (I do) Do you think it will be available? (I doubt it)

I also think the time is right for Honda to bring a wagon back to the US (perhaps under the guise of a crossover Accord), but I don't think Honda is brave enough to take the risk.
 
Brave enough? Just look at the new CR-V, if thats not brave, I dunno what is! To tell you the truth, if they currently made and Accord Wagon, that is what I would tell my mom to buy. Period.
 
Hmm. Well, we pretty much all agree that more than 260 hp would be nice.

Yes, but I don't plan to see it. I believe it'll be a 256-horsepower 3.2-liter six, taken straight from the TL. I think we've seen the last of the 3-liter.

How about SH-AWD? Would you want it? (I do) Do you think it will be available? (I doubt it)

SH-AWD would be nice, but unnecessary. Most midsize sedans don't have all-wheel drive.

I also think the time is right for Honda to bring a wagon back to the US (perhaps under the guise of a crossover Accord), but I don't think Honda is brave enough to take the risk.

No question - the Outback has proven the profitability of the segment, but I agree with your characterization that Honda is too scared to do it. When Honda dropped its wagon they vowed they'd never return with another. I think it'll happen eventually, but not yet.
 
It wasn't just Subaru who proved the profitability, what about Volvo, alot of people like just the Volvo wagons!

Volvo and Subaru were the ones who had the best market sense in continuing both of their wagons.


Also, you do realize that everywhere else still gets an Accord wagon?
 
My internets is weaker on fridays, sorry.

Then why did you say they backed out of the Mid-Size wagon market?
 
In the US. They backed out in the US because in the early 90s wagons were super-uncool.

Then the Outback showed that a wagon can indeed sell if you market it right, and Dodge showed that you can market it to heterosexuals and it'll sell even then. *ducks*
 
In the US. They backed out in the US because in the early 90s wagons were super-uncool.

Then the Outback showed that a wagon can indeed sell if you market it right, and Dodge showed that you can market it to heterosexuals and it'll sell even then. *ducks*

*Dials ACLU hotline*

[bruce]Oh that is the last straw mister, I'll see you in court, after my manicure![/bruce] :grumpy:
 
Then why did you say they backed out of the Mid-Size wagon market?
They did. I was talking about the USDM since we're discussing the '08 USDM Accord here...
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Then the Outback showed that a wagon can indeed sell if you market it right, and Dodge showed that you can market it to heterosexuals and it'll sell even then. *ducks*

It's funny - I never understood why a maker wouldn't want to sell an Outback-sized car. Then I left Colorado. I see a small number here in Georgia, and sometimes I see them with Colorado plates. I guess they haven't got the mass appeal they have in Colorado in other parts of the country. But it's still possible to sell them.
 
As I have understood it, Honda never likes to fiddle around with "concept" versions of the Accord, so even having one show up in Detroit was a HUGE step forward for the company. From what I have heard and read, the next-generation Accord is in the same time-frame as most new cars this year, sometime in the fall for a debut, probably on-sale by the end of the year.

The big question is whether or not Honda will decide to combine the Accord back to the way it should be, without the Accord Euro/TSX and "regular" Accord. The problem is, the new Camry and the like is rather large, and I doubt a full-size Accord would go over well in Europe, so, probably not. We Americans and Aussies thereby would expect a large model once again.

As for engines, I wouldn't doubt seeing much of a departure, if at all, from the current lineup of I4s and V6s. Chances are that a six-speed automatic will be added to the mix, and of course there will probably be a diesel model available as well.

...After all is said and done, Honda has a pretty large uphill battle to fight. Granted of course that the current Accord, despite its age, is probably the best mid-size car you can buy in America, that doesn't mean that cars like the Malibu/Aura, Altima, and yes even the Camry would give it a run for the money. But even beyond that, the new Camry is rather dismal, the Altima caters to the young and vibrant, and the Malibu/Aura while good cars, probably won't match-up to an all-new Accord.

That said, I think we should be more worried about that FoMoCo plans to do with the next Mazda 6 against the growing sea of competitors. That will indeed be a make it or break it car as well.
 
As I have understood it, Honda never likes to fiddle around with "concept" versions of the Accord, so even having one show up in Detroit was a HUGE step forward for the company.

Well, as the concept was a coupe that had no windows, I imagine Honda has some work to do.

As for engines, I wouldn't doubt seeing much of a departure, if at all, from the current lineup of I4s and V6s. Chances are that a six-speed automatic will be added to the mix, and of course there will probably be a diesel model available as well.

I'd kill them if there was no Tiptronic.
 
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