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[aland18]

Add me and I can give you a great learners car:tup:

I think we may have drifted together. I ran with Spank and his buds a few times at High Speed Ring.

I wouldn't call myself a beginner - I actually placed (final top 250) at the most recent Nurb drift trial seasonal.

 

[monsterGAUZ]

I think we may have drifted together. I ran with Spank and his buds a few times at High Speed Ring.

I wouldn't call myself a beginner - I actually placed (final top 250) at the most recent Nurb drift trial seasonal.

Drift trials don't mean anything here bud.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

I reccomend all aids off for drifting.

Yep... stills, ABS and turning speed is optional to you, depending your style and device that you use.

 

[aland18]

Drift trials don't mean anything here bud.

do you have any tips....bud?

 

[monsterGAUZ]

do you have any tips....bud?

Drift in normal mode, with Rwd only. Comfort hard tires prefered.

Drift Trials are just about how fast you slide on the racing line, that's fail bud.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

do you have any tips....bud?

The question is not for myself, but i think that most people are in consense about what i will say:

- Pratice online, do tandems online, tune your cars online. There is a slight diference between the offline and online physics, and if you finetune your car while offline, maybe or probably you will have to re-work it when online.

- Drift trials are not useless. They (the seasional trials) give the fast and easy money needed for your online endeavors, because while drifting online you will not get almost no cash for that. Its all about passion. So don´t worry about your position, all u need to aim is the gold medal (if you´re good, 1 try is enough).

- If you want to tandem a lot and find a lot of people disposed to share the same experience, use CH. Filter your room choices for CH locked rooms, build your friendlist based on the tire choices, then your life will be easier.

- If you´re gonna create a room, dont forget to lock for CH tires, keep the FF and AWD out, put draft cone on low, damages off, grip reduction on realistic. Tire and fuel consumption is optional, but i like to set it off too.

- About setups, you can ask online for "recipes" and probably many people will share their settings. But first, be sure of what device youre mate is using, cose it can change a lot depending if he is using racing wheels (sometimes even the wheel model affect the setup) or a controller (even the button scheme and style can affect the setups too).

- Pratice a lot, learn the ropes, do sections, learn the standard lines for every track, learn where and how to deal with banked corners.

- Learn how to adjust your speed while tandeming, using diferent techniques. Get used to live with the preassure of drift all the time with someone very close to you without get desperated and try to run away or overtake.

- Be gentle, apologise yourself if you mess up, wait if you launch earlier, adjust your launch speed, dont run reverse against a lot of people doing a section. Here in the forum is normal to act like a moron sometimes, but if you do that in a drifting lobby, you can be kicked out in a second.

- When the room leader starts a race, remember: ITS NOT A RACE. Try to stay closer as possible to the crowd and there will be more chances of appear in some neat photos and videos around the internetz.

If you do all these things... will be a lot easier to be liked and even find a good team in a short future.

 

[aland18]

Drift in normal mode, with Rwd only. Comfort hard tires prefered.

Drift Trials are just about how fast you slide on the racing line, that's fail bud.

and Americans are stereotyped for their arrogance...

We all know that the DT's are just money makers and are exploited by the Speed 12's which are just used for scoring. that being said, there is some skill involved in running them. Really not interested in joining a team, don't have the schedule to do it. I do practice in a lobby.

That being said, I don't need setups or anything like that, just some details on why I get sucked into a banked corner with oversteer.

Too much speed? Too much angle? Bad approach?

Please save the holier-than-thou comments.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

Im sorry, i didn´t saw that you wasn´t the OP. This thread was revived and i didn´t notice even what was your issue. Allright then, lets talk specificaly about banked corners.

- Too much speed is not a problem. Otherwise, lack of speed can bring serious problems.

- CH users takes banked corners much more seriously than any other kind of tyre user. (thats a reason why i don´t like to read "CH is the easiest drift tyre). Anyways: Don´t mix tires, specialy something with more grip on front than behind. If so, it probably will prejudice you on overstering locks in these corners.

- There is no right and wrong about aproaches on banked corners, but in fact there are techniques that will envolve a higher danger than anothers. If you don´t want to have problems in these kind of corners, try avoid to manji (flick) before the drift starts (specialy adding some powerover). Its safer to gentle dive with a very small angle and let the corner brings this angle for you by itself. If you feel that you will hang your nose on the apex, try to use the e-brakes and powerslide straight a bit.

- Attack the internal apex is highly dangerous (at least in the 1st half), try to stay all the time on the top of the corner (the outside line). Its not nice, but its safer and gives some space if something goes wrong.

- Soft rear springs, front-based weight distribuition are also factors that can bring headaches on banked corners.

 

[aland18]

Im sorry, i didn´t saw that you wasn´t the OP. This thread was revived and i didn´t notice even what was your issue. Allright then, lets talk specificaly about banked corners.

- Too much speed is not a problem. Otherwise, lack of speed can bring serious problems.

- CH users takes banked corners much more seriously than any other kind of tyre user. (thats a reason why i don´t like to read "CH is the easiest drift tyre). Anyways: Don´t mix tires, specialy something with more grip on front than behind. If so, it probably will prejudice you on overstering locks in these corners.

- There is no right and wrong about aproaches on banked corners, but in fact there are techniques that will envolve a higher danger than anothers. If you don´t want to have problems in these kind of corners, try avoid to manji (flick) before the drift starts (specialy adding some powerover). Its safer to gentle dive with a very small angle and let the corner brings this angle for you by itself. If you feel that you will hang your nose on the apex, try to use the e-brakes and powerslide straight a bit.

- Attack the internal apex is highly dangerous (at least in the 1st half), try to stay all the time on the top of the corner (the outside line). Its not nice, but its safer and gives some space if something goes wrong.

- Soft rear springs, front-based weight distribuition are also factors that can bring headaches on banked corners.

sorry for the confusion about the OP - I hate starting threads for questions, figured this was a decent thread to ask something. I do like the grippier front end as its easier to swing the tail around and have tried going hards all around on the slope stuff but I think I might not have enough speed and I'm hitting the banks to low.

Now that I think of it, the banks are pretty much like hitting a golf ball that is above your feet - the slope drags everything to the inside.

Thanks for the input, I'll try going with a little bit of a stiffer rear end and implementing the driving tips. Got a car you're looking for? Give me a few options and I'll see about sending something your way as a token of appreciation.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

sorry for the confusion about the OP - I hate starting threads for questions, figured this was a decent thread to ask something. I do like the grippier front end as its easier to swing the tail around and have tried going hards all around on the slope stuff but I think I might not have enough speed and I'm hitting the banks to low.

Now that I think of it, the banks are pretty much like hitting a golf ball that is above your feet - the slope drags everything to the inside.

Thanks for the input, I'll try going with a little bit of a stiffer rear end and implementing the driving tips. Got a car you're looking for? Give me a few options and I'll see about sending something your way as a token of appreciation.

Thanks, its nice to help. About the car, its not really necessary. The only car im looking for right now is the Jaguar XFR '10, and its standard. But is not an easy car to find.

Also, i found this, witch might help too:

If your car is dropping down the banks, you aren't going fast enough If it's straightening up, you need more throttle.

On transitions, don't lift off the power to make the car change direction, use the steering by over-correcting the slide, then lift off the throttle once the car is in the new drift to maintain control

Hope that helps.

 

[aland18]

I'll see if I have one. I've made all of the trades I need and found pretty much all of the cars I want so I'm pretty much open to giving stuff away.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

I'll see if I have one. I've made all of the trades I need and found pretty much all of the cars I want so I'm pretty much open to giving stuff away.

Thats the one... if you have any for spare or dupe, ill be highly glad.

 

[aland18]

Thats the one... if you have any for spare or dupe, ill be highly glad.

Got one. Can send now for the next few hrs.

 

[aland18]

Thats the one... if you have any for spare or dupe, ill be highly glad.

thanks for the info - played around on Autumn Mini last night and was finally able to hit the second curve fairly consistently. went CH all around and instead of flicking, I went in straight around 50 mph, and e-braked to kick out the rear end - allowed me to stay on the high side (outside) much better.

Its amazing how high (outside) you have to stay on that curve without getting pulled in and even more of how much it influences that next long drift on the two right turns right after it.

if you come in shallow and get pulled down then you have no hope of hitting anything on the next turn.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

thanks for the info - played around on Autumn Mini last night and was finally able to hit the second curve fairly consistently. went CH all around and instead of flicking, I went in straight around 50 mph, and e-braked to kick out the rear end - allowed me to stay on the high side (outside) much better.

Its amazing how high (outside) you have to stay on that curve without getting pulled in and even more of how much it influences that next long drift on the two right turns right after it.

if you come in shallow and get pulled down then you have no hope of hitting anything on the next turn.

Exactly! I compare the physics of RWD to a hammer. If you throw the hammer spinning, the "head" always will concentrate the mass, while the whole wood handle will spin. Any kind of corner bank with positive elevation will tend to hold the car´s nose, not only due the weight distribuition, but also because the rear wheel are with much less grip.

By the way, im loving the Jag. Its a bit heavier than i expected, but its very controlable.