New firmware 721B released for CSR Elite wheel

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Strangely my wheel does not center itself after I updated to 721B, instead it is turned 45-50 degrees left and in FM4 the wheel doesn't center itself either.... any suggestions guys?

Fixed now, didn't know about the centering calibration.

New firmware is absolutely amazing!
 
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Well Ive had a bit of a weird thing too, maybe down to a beta wheel though.

Everytime the wheel powers up it only shows the --- but now only very briefly for about 1 second. Then it goes into auto search mode. Anyone else have this?

I have to be very quick to hit the "back" button to make the --- stay on.
Yet the wheel now fails to show the firmware for some weird reason.

I did however set a new center point by using the back button and the bottom two red then powering off. Try this again "ilonioum" mate from PC mode.

So far just have had a go with FM4 the wheel seems more sensitive again, doesnt have the notch as the power comes on mid corner from the FFB, now it seems smoother in its transition.
 
I drove a lot of races in GT5 this monring. 721B has a problem on the straight at high speed. The wheel is unstable and oscillates when driving straight. It is helped to add 20 degrees to the dead zone but it didn't eliminate the problem. In 715B there was no issue with this.

721B is very stable in FM4 and it is a noticeable contrast to GT5.
 
RReed43
I drove a lot of races in GT5 this monring. 721B has a problem on the straight at high speed. The wheel is unstable and oscillates when driving straight. It is helped to add 20 degrees to the dead zone but it didn't eliminate the problem. In 715B there was no issue with this.

721B is very stable in FM4 and it is a noticeable contrast to GT5.
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I actually think this could be due to the new 2.02 game update as I noticed it today running the same track with the regular CSR, I don't think the issue was there before the 2.02 update either, but this issue I don't think is wheel related.
 
GTP_Plato
I actually think this could be due to the new 2.02 game update as I noticed it today running the same track with the regular CSR, I don't think the issue was there before the 2.02 update either, but this issue I don't think is wheel related.
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I was running GT 2.02 with the 715B firmware and then went to the 721B firmware. It is much worse and make driving really fast cars on the straight very difficult. The instability existed with the release software 705 and was fixed with 715B.

I think in tuning the software for FM4 they unbalanced it for GT5.
 
RReed43
I was running GT 2.02 with the 715B firmware and then went to the 721B firmware. It is much worse and make driving really fast cars on the straight very difficult. The instability existed with the release software 705 and was fixed with 715B.

I think in tuning the software for FM4 they unbalanced it for GT5.
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I can't really comment for the CSR E, I haven't been on the high speed ring or any other tracks with long straights for a while. When I was running the tracks in question though a few weeks back I had no such problem, only noticed the problem today, and today is the first time in a while I have driven on one of the tracks in question.

This is what made me think it was game related as I have never noticed the problem before, plus the fact I have been on the same firmware (706) for a long time:tup:
 
Mr Latte
Well Ive had a bit of a weird thing too, maybe down to a beta wheel though.

Everytime the wheel powers up it only shows the --- but now only very briefly for about 1 second. Then it goes into auto search mode. Anyone else have this?

I have to be very quick to hit the "back" button to make the --- stay on.
Yet the wheel now fails to show the firmware for some weird reason.

I did however set a new center point by using the back button and the bottom two red then powering off. Try this again "ilonioum" mate from PC mode.

So far just have had a go with FM4 the wheel seems more sensitive again, doesnt have the notch as the power comes on mid corner from the FFB, now it seems smoother in its transition.
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thank you Latte, this is fixed now and I have enjoyed the wheel with my new setup, a whole new world with CSRE and tactile.
 
Is there maybe a petition we could start to PD? They insist they listen to the community, so maybe we can put something together to have Fanatec as it's own drivers rather than G25 emulation. I can almost guarantee that part of it getting worse, could be the new firmware really putting more strength to the wheel.

Would it be difficult for Fanatec to emulate the Thrustmaster? Would this then introduce issues as the Fanatec is a 900 deg wheel vs the T500 1080 deg?

I know from patch to patch that wobble has changed. When I first noticed it was at high speed. I was however able to get it to do the wobble while stationary. Try this:

slow in a straight line until stopped, then tap the wheel in a direction. Does it still wobble?
 
VWMasteR
Is there maybe a petition we could start to PD? They insist they listen to the community, so maybe we can put something together to have Fanatec as it's own drivers rather than G25 emulation. I can almost guarantee that part of it getting worse, could be the new firmware really putting more strength to the wheel.
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It would be fantastic if they did but I suspect they won't. Fanatec is working with Forza and making it possible for the Xbox to have high end wheel support. I think it will be up to Fanatec to tune the firmware to solve the problem.
 
Bearing in mind know one on here knows the cause of the problem I suspect it's too early too speculate a fix ;)
 
Since this is an issue that has come and gone to a degree, I suspect this is software not firmware / hardware. Like the G25 I used and the DFGT both exhibited this issue. I haven't tried the DFGT since August and the G25 since some time late June / early July. They did have it just look my PWTS did and my friends GT3RS. I've only seen this in GT is which I suspect it's a software issue.
 
All of it involves tuning the firmware/hardware to work with the software. It may be true that GT5 has a tendency to produce oscillations around the center but the problem appears to be reasonably controlled with Logitech and Thrustmaster wheels.

I was OK on GT5 with the 215B version but it's a real problem with 221B. It is very unpleasant to drive a fast car using 221B. I simply don't expect PD to spend any energy solving this problem so I am hoping Fanatec will.
 
Those having a problem what's the spring setting on your wheel set to?

I find the issues almost gone with my elite now I'm on the new firmware.

I'm wondering if the spring setting if set too high over dries the wheel to centre, i.e. it goes past centre and then is corrected and goes the other way the oscillation begins..

to be clear I'm not saying here that there isn't an Issue with GT5 that could be handled better with native support for the fanatec wheel (cause it happens on a G25) but I'm wondering if the spring settings are contributing to the same symptoms!

The camber of a road will make the steering wheel irl turn slightly even if your tracking straight ahead, if the motor over compensates to move the wheel to center (spring force) then it could set up an oscillation. reducing spring effect could take that out of the picture?

What do you think?
 
Tested new firmware in GT5 and with spring and damper set to 0 and it feels just fine to me.

High speed straights such as the one in Le Mans (ie. Circuit de la Sarthe), does feel a little twitchy in certain areas but the steering wheel is just reacting to the road bumps there. I love the realism!
 
gslooney
Those having a problem what's the spring setting on your wheel set to?

I find the issues almost gone with my elite now I'm on the new firmware.

I'm wondering if the spring setting if set too high over dries the wheel to centre, i.e. it goes past centre and then is corrected and goes the other way the oscillation begins..

to be clear I'm not saying here that there isn't an Issue with GT5 that could be handled better with native support for the fanatec wheel (cause it happens on a G25) but I'm wondering if the spring settings are contributing to the same symptoms!

The camber of a road will make the steering wheel irl turn slightly even if your tracking straight ahead, if the motor over compensates to move the wheel to center (spring force) then it could set up an oscillation. reducing spring effect could take that out of the picture?

What do you think?
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Good call. I tested some settings. Spring -2 and Deadzone 10 degrees made it very playable for me.
 
GTP_Plato
Still no update for regular CSR users or other users? The CSR came out with the same wheel center issue that I pointed out a long time ago which everybody in here failed to notice for some odd reason, amazing how it was noticed so quickly on the CSR E though :crazy:

Anybody have any info on when a new firmware will be released for other wheels? I take it the expense of the CSR E is why it's users are treated like royalty, but yet the CSR has been released longer and still no update :grumpy:

Sorry for the rant, but I would also like this wheel center issue to go away :ouch:

Happy New Year guys :cheers:
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I'm also waiting for the new Fw . My wheel was purchased in Oct. but was a xmas present from wife, so I still have the 701 version. This is my first Fanatec wheel so installing FW is all new to me. Do (or should) I email them for the 706 version or wait it out a little longer. Also if I do email them do I just make a video of the wheel showing the 701 version. Thanks in advance for any help, and Happy New Year to everyone.
 
Found 706 via Google

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OR9TQ2VT

I'd go to Thomas's blog at www.911wheel.de and download the new 721B firmware. You can't use 721 on your CSR but the new bootloader for doing the upgrade is much better than the one that will be included in the 706 download. Just be sure to select the 706 pw1 and pw2 files when you run the updat
 
Had a quick run with GT5

I found using the Nissan GTR wasnt that bad with:
LIN 2
DRI 2
SEN 400
FFB 80 (GT5 has stronger FFB than FM4)
SHO 100
 
thehawk05
Found 706 via Google

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OR9TQ2VT

I'd go to Thomas's blog at www.911wheel.de and download the new 721B firmware. You can't use 721 on your CSR but the new bootloader for doing the upgrade is much better than the one that will be included in the 706 download. Just be sure to select the 706 pw1 and pw2 files when you run the updat
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Thanks for the links ,the driver kept failing to install when I used the new bootloader so I use the old version and it work on the first try. It probably would have worked had I manuely installed it, but I did'nt think about that until after I was already done.
 
Mr Latte
Had a quick run with GT5

I found using the Nissan GTR wasnt that bad with:
LIN 2
DRI 2
SEN 400
FFB 80 (GT5 has stronger FFB than FM4)
SHO 100
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Damn having SHO on 100 feels like I'm holding a pair of hair clippers lol
I like it though. I keep mine at 10. Reminds me of when I first upgraded my car with headers. The vibration just makes the car feel powerful 👍

Latte, did you notice anything different about the Drift Mode settings in GT5? When I was on 715, each level 1-5 was a completely different feel but now it doesn't seem that much of an effect. I'll do more testing though. I also notice that the deadzone is different. on 715 in cockpit view, you can actually see the deadzone while turning the wheel (it has that slight freeze when crossing the center), now there doesn't seem to be a freeze in the wheel turn. I don't use it however I just thought I throw it out there.
 
GT5 was designed for 900° rotation and thi sis what I am using on all cars. If you reduce the sensitivity you will increase the oscillation.
 
Ohhh I see what you're saying now and I do understand. It wouldn't make sense for a deadzone to exist when 900 degrees (hence the full rotation of the wheel) is active. Thanks for the response Thomas! Lovin' the wheel!
 
zenkis14
Damn having SHO on 100 feels like I'm holding a pair of hair clippers lol
I like it though. I keep mine at 10. Reminds me of when I first upgraded my car with headers. The vibration just makes the car feel powerful 👍

Latte, did you notice anything different about the Drift Mode settings in GT5? When I was on 715, each level 1-5 was a completely different feel but now it doesn't seem that much of an effect. I'll do more testing though. I also notice that the deadzone is different. on 715 in cockpit view, you can actually see the deadzone while turning the wheel (it has that slight freeze when crossing the center), now there doesn't seem to be a freeze in the wheel turn. I don't use it however I just thought I throw it out there.
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I hope to do a bit more testing today.
Personally I like the rumble high usually FFB high too but 100 feels a bit heavy and slows me down I feel particulary in slower corners. I never used 715 but was coming from 717.


Fanatec...
GT5 was designed for 900° rotation and thi sis what I am using on all cars. If you reduce the sensitivity you will increase the oscillation.
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Thanks Thomas, though I wanted to try and find a setting that felt okay with less rotation. I often use around 400 in FM4 (depends on car) and I was doing a bit of comparison between each game using same car/track.

Do you expect a FINAL (non beta) firmware before the end of the month?
You must be close to having it fine tuned?
 
Only it is not very smart to turn sen to anything else than 900 when even the Formula cars in GT5 have 900º of steering wheel rotation... if you turn the SEN down you increase the oscilation... and have less control on the steering
 
New bootloader program is much better than the last, took aprrox 5 minutes to load, and that includes lugging my cockpit over to the computer. Played with the new firmware on forza 4, coming from fw 715 to 721 and i must say that its 100% better! Very smooth and the cars are much easier to control, deadzone is gone. I'll go as far as saying the vehicles are handling more like gt5 physics... havent played with the new 721 firmware in gt5 but i can tell you the transition from gt5 to forza 4 will not be such a shock anymore! Thank you Fanatec team for such an amazing wheel, my friends and i cant beleive the jump from a g27 expirence, this wheel is worth every penny, cant wait for the upgardable wheel rims!
 
Fanatec...
GT5 was designed for 900° rotation and thi sis what I am using on all cars. If you reduce the sensitivity you will increase the oscillation.
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Thanks for this information. I put the wheel on Sen 900 degrees and all the other controls were at default. The wheel performed great on GT5, no oscillations.
 
Thank goodness for multiple settings. it would be a pain have to turn the sensetivity up and down whenever you changed cars or popped in a game like f1 when you need 270°.
 
Sorry to bump this but i am having the worst time trying to install this firmware. i had no problem with 715 but for some reason the usb port driver fails to pre-install every time i try. the bootloader automatically detects where the firmware is but the driver wont load. going in the usb driver folder there are two files but the one entitled mchpcdc is the actual port driver right? what am i missing here the last firmware update went so smoothly... Could it be a prob with my computer's usb port? I had to switch computers because the bootloader program kept freezing up my other laptop. this one doesnt run it much better but it doesnt freeze. any suggestions?
 
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