New Grip Bug?

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I drove this car the other week for a few laps and couldn't help but notice how much crazy stutter was between each gear? In your comparison video the Italian driver looks like he suffers from minimal stutter during each gear and he uses the brakes much less than Lightning who has the gear stutter as expected... The Italian guys exit speed after braking and accelerating out turn 4 shows the his car is almost 15mph faster the whole length of that straight alone before T1 and turn 5?

Looks strange to me also but then again... lots of strange things happen in this game that baffle the mind :P
 
He's using a shifter and clutch to shift faster. He's also better. No grip bug anymore, put your pitchfork away
 
ARTAsean
He's using a shifter and clutch to shift faster. He's also better. No grip bug anymore, put your pitchfork away
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ARTAsean
He's using a shifter and clutch to shift faster. He's also better. No grip bug anymore, put your pitchfork away
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It’s not like Kie25 is accusing anyone of cheating, clearly you didn’t watch the entire video. TRL_Lightning is using a shifter and he was more that 3 seconds off. The driver who came in pole might be good, but he’s not that good.
 
Canadaguy
It’s not like Kie25 is accusing anyone of cheating, clearly you didn’t watch the entire video. TRL_Lightning is using a shifter and he was more that 3 seconds off. The driver who came in pole might be good, but he’s not that good.
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Keep in mind we now can figure out an entire weeks daily races ahead of time. It wouldn't surprise me at all if this Italian has been practicing for this all week.

I don't know who TRL whatever is and I also don't know why you revere him so much. But millions of people play this game, there is always someone faster.
 
ARTAsean
I don't know who TRL whatever is and I also don't know why you revere him so much. But millions of people play this game, there is always someone faster.
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Lightning is undoubtedly one of the fastest players in the world, he has several world records. Nobody is beating him by over 3 seconds in a sub 2 minute lap time. I don’t care how much practice you give the other guy ahead of time.
 
I don't know about grip bug, but as was mentioned in the video, maybe some settings have been carried over from the offline car and the game wasn't resetting it properly. That top ten looked messed up with the number of lower ranked drivers in there. Not saying it can't happen, but it is very unusual, and was obvious through the lap the pole sitter had much more grip in his car for whatever reason.
 
ARTAsean
I don't know who TRL whatever is
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If you knew anything about what dictates world record pace, you'd know the TRL guys. Stop trying to baselessly defend a clearly busted aspect of the game with a 'maybe'.

Since you aren't aware how these leaderboards tend to go down though (thats fine, not everyone is into this stuff, just don't try and use a baseless argument, y'know?), Lightnings times tend to be around a tenth or 2 off whats actually possible on most circuits, and will almost always strike European #1 or #2 on the hotlap leaderboards.

To explain whats actually going on here, we've seen this before, this exact car and track combo appeared in a Nations Cup test season (A long time ago now, around early-mid March time I think?) and had this exact same issue. Funnily enough though when the F1500 had an FIA race at Interlagos, this grip bug didn't occur (to my knowledge).

That means its either an issue with the F1500 or an issue with the F1500 at Nurburgring GP specifically, although I find the latter hard to believe. I did some testing on it when this combo appeared in FIA, and the bug seems to be tied to initially loading onto the track without restarting, but only sometimes. If I were to has it a guess, this happened after they 'fixed' the RSS tyre issue for the F1500, So I'm assuming sometimes the game randomly breaks and decides to load you in on RSS tyres as a result of that fix? I don't know for sure, but the lap time difference checks out. There's certainly a issue here and PD need to stay away from the F1500 until they sort it honestly, especially in FIA.
 
Just to make it clear I am not saying anyone is cheating, and to those who think that a bit practice would beat Lightning by 3 seconds you really do
ARTAsean
He's using a shifter and clutch to shift faster. He's also better. No grip bug anymore, put your pitchfork away
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Before commenting watch the video in full,

1. I state TRL is using shifter

2. I make it clear I'm not accusing people cheating

Also if you knew anything about ultimate speed you would know that it's impossible that someone will be 3 secs faster than Lightning in any combination on GTSport.

There was no pitchforks out it was to try make the developers aware to get the issue sorted
 
This Time Trial shows the mentality of the whole game. Its just poor flimbos quest without any sportsmanship. This persons dont even try to do a clean lap, they cut the whole track and feel famous LOL
This is so ridiculous like almost every part of this poor game.
 
I honestly never realised it's faster when you use as shifter (at least in a car that has a shifter IRL, like this car modeled after 1980s F1 cars). All I get when using my shifter is a ton of misshifts, depending on cars. In this old F1 car, the game simply won't shift from 2nd to 3rd (no matter how slow and carefully I shift) most of the time. What am I missing? I know the clutch/hshifter implementation in GTS is really bad, is there a workaround around it that I don't know? I'm ALWAYS slower due to mis shifts.
 
barkohba
I honestly never realised it's faster when you use as shifter (at least in a car that has a shifter IRL, like this car modeled after 1980s F1 cars). All I get when using my shifter is a ton of misshifts, depending on cars. In this old F1 car, the game simply won't shift from 2nd to 3rd (no matter how slow and carefully I shift) most of the time. What am I missing? I know the clutch/hshifter implementation in GTS is really bad, is there a workaround around it that I don't know? I'm ALWAYS slower due to mis shifts.
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You can do two things: wait for second gear to rev out, or very close to revving out. Sometimes it's possible to mistake that when the car reaches the rev limiter, it's time to shift. This often happens in the F1 from second to third because of constant wheelspins

Another thing you can do is stop the wheelspin, and then let the rpm drop to the level where it should be without the wheelspin, and then shift up. This method is slower though because you also have to wait for the right rpm range before you fully shift up to third. Although, based from what I saw in the daily race discussion, it's faster to just stay in third :)
 
Lion-Face
I don't know about grip bug, but as was mentioned in the video, maybe some settings have been carried over from the offline car and the game wasn't resetting it properly. That top ten looked messed up with the number of lower ranked drivers in there. Not saying it can't happen, but it is very unusual, and was obvious through the lap the pole sitter had much more grip in his car for whatever reason.
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This!

I have had it happen to me, once ran in GR3 with a Porshe with the power maxed at level 1, down the straights I was destroying, at least 10-15mph faster! Reluctantly I kept to about 80% for most of the race to risk getting reported. I would have quit but didn't want the DR dive :banghead:

A friend managed to start a race with the weight reduced before as well, I haven't seen it discussed much here but it does happen sometimes :/
 
Quite some people have been saying that the Tyre grip bug wasn't fully fixed ...
It's like in some people get softer tyres than others..
 
witham
This!

I have had it happen to me, once ran in GR3 with a Porshe with the power maxed at level 1, down the straights I was destroying, at least 10-15mph faster! Reluctantly I kept to about 80% for most of the race to risk getting reported. I would have quit but didn't want the DR dive :banghead:

A friend managed to start a race with the weight reduced before as well, I haven't seen it discussed much here but it does happen sometimes :/
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Reminds me of the GT6 Quick Match SRF bug. You could run with SRF on if you had it activated in arcade, though it was banned in the QM race room with the option locked.
That bug's been exploited to the max at the end of GT6's lifespan.
 
Donnced
Quite some people have been saying that the Tyre grip bug wasn't fully fixed ...
It's like in some people get softer tyres than others..
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I doubt it's tires... The whole car behaves differently. Italian guy's formula is much more agile, stable and precise than the regular one.

Maybe they are testing some some new physics related things and it coincidentally affected people like this?
 
Remember our tsukuba session with BMW E30. Shifting was like with a sequential gearbox after flipping gears
 
Only worrying thing i see there are the ridiculous track limits. Come on PDI - close the track limits or make tires get dirty off track.

I never use these "optimal lines" as i think that ruins the immersion. I rather race real line and loose..

Oh - and PDI please make high curbs slippery or make them unbalance the car a lot more.
 
Forgive me if this is too far off topic as it's not online and might not be about grip, but I have noticed a subtle performance variance in arcade time trial.

I've been trying, and failing, to get that pesky 500-mile-oval trophy using the Tomohawk. On Blue Moon I noticed that at some point I was suddenly about half a second off pace while observing no change in my driving. Yesterday I notice the same thing on the half-mile track. After about 100 laps suddenly I was 3 or 4 tenths off and about 20mph down at each turn entry.

No damage, but the car performance seems to just randomly degrade. I know this might not be useful for this discussion, but I can't help but think of this when others talk about inconsistencies in the game.
 
ROCKET JOE
Reminds me of the GT6 Quick Match SRF bug. You could run with SRF on if you had it activated in arcade, though it was banned in the QM race room with the option locked.
That bug's been exploited to the max at the end of GT6's lifespan.
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Exactly what I was thinking. It sounds like something is carrying over, whether it be tyres or set up related, the same way it was back in our days of QM with SRF. At least PD should know what to look for this time, if in fact this is the case.
 

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