New Laguna Seca

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a6m5
P.S. Why was Mazda name added to the track?
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That's what it's called now. Mazda bought it or something, i'm not sure. It happened after GT3 came out, so it didn't have the Mazda name attached in GT3.
 
the real 6c
Mazda was added to the name because it is now Mazda Laguna Seca. If i remember right Mazda purchased the track. I don't think it is just a sponsor like on sports arena's, but i could be wrong. I ahve been hit in the head to many times to totally trust my memory.
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Giancarlo
That's what it's called now. Mazda bought it or something, i'm not sure. It happened after GT3 came out, so it didn't have the Mazda name attached in GT3.
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red_infinity
I believe you are correct. Mazda owns Laguna Seca now.
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Thanks guys! Well, good for Mazda. 👍 I know if I was running an car company, I'd love to own an awesome track like the Laguna Seca.
 
the real 6c
i liked Laguna in GT3 for testing too. I ran the track "perfect" so I could always compare what car was faster or what change made the car better. I just think there is so much room for error if using nurburgring. Maybe its because i haven't memorized the nurburgring yet, but i can't drive several laps within tenths of a second of each other like i could at laguna in GT3.
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I can drive very consistant laps with Nurburgring, I use both Nurburgring and Tsukuba for my testing results can be suprising.

For example a stock muscle cars can be fairly quick compared some other standard cars around Tsukuba but around Nurburgring they fall back alot due to them running out of speed on the fast parts of the Nurb.
 
Suzuka was originally designed and made by Honda as a test track, not sure if they still own it though.

Laguna Seca official website
http://www.laguna-seca.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/mainFlash.htm

Mazda
Track Naming Rights Partner, Official Car & Truck
http://www.mazdausa.com/
For Mazda North America the partnership with Laguna Seca Raceway goes far beyond the obvious naming and branding signifigance at the track. Laguna Seca has become Mazda's "Home Away From Home". Mazda's presence has become woven into the daily business of the facility, from the entensive use of the track for product testing to the 2003 World Launch of the RX-8.
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Crayola
Doesnt either honda or toyota own Sazuka though? It doesnt have their name attached, unless Mazda were tools about it.
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I agree, it's kinda tacky, but that's business!
 
a6m5
P.S. Why was Mazda name added to the track?
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Because they paid for it. That's the same reason Sears Point is now called Infineon.

Edit: And now I see everyone already answered the question.
 
personally, I like the new laguna seca better because its more realistic. I was there two summers ago and thought that they couldve done a little better in GT3, but I still liked it then.

Anyways... whats wrong if a course is made to take a little more skill. I dont understand why ppl complain that they made the game "hard." Isnt that a good thing. Who wants to play something if it doesnt take any skill?
 
i liked Laguna in GT3 for testing too. I ran the track "perfect" so I could always compare what car was faster or what change made the car better. I just think there is so much room for error if using nurburgring. Maybe its because i haven't memorized the nurburgring yet, but i can't drive several laps within tenths of a second of each other like i could at laguna in GT3.
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Exactly. LS is STILL my test track. I am surprised so many other people used LS as their test track :)
 
The tracks may have been changed, but so what? It takes what,one lap to get used to the track again?

I never actually noticed any difference (other than the graphics) but that's because i hadn't played GT3 for a loooong time before i got GT4 ;)
 
I love the new LS and everything about it. :)
Got lucky myself, as I made the switch from DS2 to DFP for GT4. So I never got to learn the proper driving line with the wheel before trying the new version out. Only took me one or two tries to learn the new corkscrew too.
Don't see why people complain about the visuals so much either anyways. I for one enjoy the new, lighter and greener LS. I guess the lights on the cars were pretty to look at though but that's pretty much it. It's a bit more realistic to drive a 5 lap race on LS at midday instead of dusk, right? ;p
 
Biggs
Is it me or is the new Laguna Seca really horrible compared to its GT3 Counterpart? I love everything about the new game apart from the new track. The Corkscrew and the corner before the corkscrew have been absolutely massacred, I can never find a line through it. Its not as if I'm a total newb to the physics and things either, as I'm currently at 25% ready to start some endurance races. Anyone else think it sucks?
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Laguna Seca, or Mazda raceway as it is now called has been repaved and somthings are diferent, they stared the project as soon as the last champ car race was over last year I was very surprized to see that somehow they added the changes to the game. Sorry if you think it sucks that is how it is now though.
 
Most people aren't complaining about the change, just commenting on it. I for one don't mind the new challenge.

About the change from dusk to daylight - I preferred it in the evening. It just made it different from the other tracks and made it special. Now it's just like all the other circuits.
 
mbavaria30s
haha yeah i bet you have totally raced a lot of laps around laguna seca in california, too, haven't you. totally your place to post opinions on the correctness of a course.
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Biggs was comparing, and giving an opinion on, the differences between the video game tracks, not an opinion on the correctness of them. I don't have to race on a track in real life to know how I feel about racing on them in a game.
 
It´s just as the real life version. U can´t just go that insane, or u will crash.

If u want an easy game to play, just go away from GT.

The same as with the SLR and the Ford GT. They are tough, bad at braking, and at handling. Why? Just looks like real.

If u put them into the limits, u will face the same things that happen in GT, or almost the same. Or u think that u can really step hard on brakes and stop from 320 km/h to 100 in like 60 meters? hahahaha

The Laguna Seca is the same thing. It has tough corners as in real life, the corners looks like the same as i have some trackdays videos here that says this, and, it´s just awesome to play.

GT3 was an arcade game, or almost that. Now we are talking about a simulator.
 
if any of you have ever been there, you'd realize that the track is much more like the real thing in GT4. I've raced on it and the corner before the corkscrew has a huge dip in elevation and you need to slow down for it. THUMBS UP TO GT4 DESIGNERDS!!! haha 👍
 
I don't know how many people have actually been to Leguna Seca. I have been to several Le Mans races and I must say the new track in GT4 is much more accurate to the original. If people are thinking that they tightened up turns I would have to disagree. :yuck: The reason of the slower speed through many turns on the course is that the new course in GT4 has been narrowed to a realistic width. I don't know how many people would agree with me, but I always found the tracks extremely wide in GT3.

Much agreed. GT3 is an arcade game, GT4 is a simulator.
 
Crayola
Doesnt either honda or toyota own Sazuka though? It doesnt have their name attached, unless Mazda were tools about it.
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Toyota owns Fugi now, I'm glad mazada bought Laguna hopfully they'll put some more money into it. Right now i know they big things on there list is redo the pit road*done* and light the track. I'm hoping they will up the track some more and maybe get the FIA intrest for F1. Also Make Turn 1 the way it used to be a flat out left hander.
 
Thanks for the vid link, after watching that I can see PD done a great job of modeling Laguna Seca.
 
Biggs
Is it me or is the new Laguna Seca really horrible compared to its GT3 Counterpart? I love everything about the new game apart from the new track. The Corkscrew and the corner before the corkscrew have been absolutely massacred, I can never find a line through it. Its not as if I'm a total newb to the physics and things either, as I'm currently at 25% ready to start some endurance races. Anyone else think it sucks?
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GT4's Laguna is inaccurate.

The Corkscrew is not high enough, and there is grass every where. There is grass, at some point, but not everywhere around the track.
 
WTF is wrong with u guys.........
the Laguna Seca in Gran Turismo 4 is EXACTLY LIKE IT IS IN REAL LIFE...
a friend of mine has raced on Laguna Seca more than once, and he said he COULD NOT BELIEVE HOW ACCURATE it is compared to real life.... he goes as far as saying that he parked his car on one of the corners to take in the scenery and its exactly like he remembers it....
(by the way he raced on Laguna a few months ago, so its very recent)
but you little arcade gamers like the GT3 Version of Laguna dont you..... and BIGGS.. NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
the corkscrew HAS NOT BEEN MASSACRED as you describe...
IT HAS BEEN DONE JUSTICE !!!!!!!!!
cuz its exactly like it is in real life......
yall need to do some research before u make whack statements.....
I read what you wrote and I just couldnt stop laughing dude.. thankz for the laughss
 
Biggs
Is it me or is the new Laguna Seca really horrible compared to its GT3 Counterpart? I love everything about the new game apart from the new track. The Corkscrew and the corner before the corkscrew have been absolutely massacred, I can never find a line through it. Its not as if I'm a total newb to the physics and things either, as I'm currently at 25% ready to start some endurance races. Anyone else think it sucks?
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I know what you mean, especially the bend before the corkscrew, could go flat out through there, however, its all in the quest for realism.
 
Adon
WTF is wrong with u guys.........
the Laguna Seca in Gran Turismo 4 is EXACTLY LIKE IT IS IN REAL LIFE...
a friend of mine has raced on Laguna Seca more than once, and he said he COULD NOT BELIEVE HOW ACCURATE it is compared to real life.... he goes as far as saying that he parked his car on one of the corners to take in the scenery and its exactly like he remembers it....
(by the way he raced on Laguna a few months ago, so its very recent)
but you little arcade gamers like the GT3 Version of Laguna dont you..... and BIGGS.. NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
the corkscrew HAS NOT BEEN MASSACRED as you describe...
IT HAS BEEN DONE JUSTICE !!!!!!!!!
cuz its exactly like it is in real life......
yall need to do some research before u make whack statements.....
I read what you wrote and I just couldnt stop laughing dude.. thankz for the laughss
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👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 i think maybe people dont like the GT4 laguna seca because they can't find the right line through the much more accurate corkscrew, therefore they go and say, "nah 👎 👎 the gt4 version is inaccurate to real life, i like GT3 LS better. (if you look at the Making of GT4 video from Prologue, there is a shot of the car going through the corkscrew and it is EXACTLY THE SAME IN THE GAME).

Biggs
Is it me or is the new Laguna Seca really horrible compared to its GT3 Counterpart? I love everything about the new game apart from the new track. The Corkscrew and the corner before the corkscrew have been absolutely massacred, I can never find a line through it. Its not as if I'm a total newb to the physics and things either, as I'm currently at 25% ready to start some endurance races. Anyone else think it sucks?
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in the blue text here you have basically said that the GT4 version of Laguna is wrong because i cant find a line through it. fair enough i know it is your opinion, but you said the track is wrong because you cant drive it. Adon is dead right, it is exactly like it should be, so stop whinging about it biggs
 
I think you'll find that even GT3's version of Laguna was a fair bit out of date from GT2's version. Because all the runoff/sandtraps etc were there before GT3 was released.

At least according to the Moto GP and Champ Car races i saw on TV...

I love the updated version though. :) 👍
 
As long as the depiction is more realistic I'm all for it. I tend to find that the narrowing and tightening have made it more difficult to drive fluently, but I can still get around pretty quick. just a matter of time to get it perfect I suppose. The mission in the GT around laguna sucks though because the driving aids are all on and it handles like a bucket of 3 day old porridge. :crazy:
 
It's all good, it's definitely a bit trickier now as it should 👍 I don't have much trouble with the corkscrew, but that left bend before the climb really takes a little getting used to.

Seems to me they made the two right-handers just after the first hairpin a little tighter (or less grippy) too. I certainly can't go as fast through there as I could i GT3. It might have something to do with the levels of grip in the two games though.
 
When I first started racing Laguna Seca, I thought something was odd when I got into the sand on practically every other turn...

I never really cared much for it anyway, so the change doesn't bother me that much.
 

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