New track concept

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Hi,

I was just watching the nurburgring 24h and auditv was filming the public at the sideboard (or bench, i used some internet translations so...) and started thinking how can race tracks be buit to improve spectator view.

Well if i was a spectator down at the event i would like to see the maximum lenght of track to instead of just a corner.

Well lets figure out why presencial spetactors cant visualize the whole track. I found out 3 causes:

1. There are buidings at the vision range that don't allow to see some track.
2. The track follows up at a higher ground than the one where the spectaters are.
3. The track is to big, and we cant see part of the track (1) , although is highly improbable due to further explanation.

So we just need to buid a track that minimizes those factores:

1. The inside circuits space should be clear of buildinds at all, with one exception. The boxes should be buit underground but with no roof (only roof above the garages to protect sun and rain). So it will seem that the pit straight was in some kind of wole, but it will still be "outside". Any administrative buiding should be buit ouside the circuit or underground if inseide the circuit. The only exception that i have referred is a tower in the middle of the track, similar to the ones in the airports (with a head shape at the top), to the supervisors work (and other HR that need to see the whole track). The rest of the HR will work underground). This should clear the inside space of buidings.

2. The terrain should be modified if dont meet the requirements. The whole track must be below the ground height of the public spots. Besides the public spots, the sideboard/benchs, should be built some meters above ground height. This will increase eye lenght range. To clarify: the track being in some kind of whole, doesnt meen it has to be flat. On the contrary it can have visible height variations (where there aren't buidings underground, off course)

3. One solutions was to put people directly above the track with a glass floor, but that is very costy and possibly not safe. I think public spots should be placed outside the track, and in points were its possible to draw a tangent line to the circuit line (like in a circle). This will eliminate dead spots (spots where the spectator building will not respect the point 1; example: on the outside line of a tight right curve on a Clockwise circuit). This way we could increase our view lenght range a lot a possible view all circuit, even in big tracks.

Gains: It will have a direct impact on specators even those at home. It will make the sport very well known worldwide and it will gain more fans, because we will be able to communicate the whole show to the public, and then let them chose what they want to watch. It is like a sense of freedoom, to to be attached to a part of the track, or to one camera that is not showing what we want (well this is not directly related, but will suffer some improvements too).
Note: This is just some tips to circuit races and exclude, the rural tracks (monaco, la sarthe...), "museum tracks" (Nordschleife...) and many more. Mostly new tracks should implement this.

Costs: Maybe they are a bit mory costy. Well there are some cases where money isn't a problem (i am not referring to any track particularly:lol:) so its still possible.



Well, i am a bit high, so i don't know if this is really stupid or really cool. :lol::lol:

It's just when i am stoned i am like 💡💡💡💡💡💡

And when go back to normal it happens this: :banghead: or this: :confused: or this: ;)

People normally react this way: :eek:

happy racing to all gtplanet community

Divinus
 
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the cost would be huge and ruin famous tracks and make tracks less exciting with a rubbish atmosphere. Also don't know about you but i like being in suspense waiting on the corner to see who comes through 1st.
 
Are you high?

Well, i am a bit high, so i don't know if this is really stupid or really cool. :lol::lol:

It's just when i am stoned i am like 💡💡💡💡💡💡

And when go back to normal it happens this: :banghead: or this: :confused: or this: ;)

Oh wait....
 
If you put in a glass floor, then the drivers would be distracted trying to look up the spectators skirts. Maybe a glass track, up in the air would be better. But they would have to paint the sponsors logo's on the bottom of the cars.

Or maybe drugs are bad and you shouldn't do them! Or maybe I'm bad and I shouldn't do anything. What were we talking about again?
 
Divinus
2. The terrain should be modified if dont meet the requirements. The whole track must be below the ground height of the public spots. (like Nascar, but applyed to a big circuit with curves to different directions:sly:).
Divinus

Being high isn't good for you.

Do you know anything of NASCAR?. Not all tracks have seating above the track. Look at Watkins Glen, Infinion (Sonoma), Road America. They are NASCAR tracks too. Now granted they aren't your typical NASCAR tracks but be careful when you say such things.
 
Hi everyone:

the cost would be huge and ruin famous tracks and make tracks less exciting with a rubbish atmosphere. Also don't know about you but i like being in suspense waiting on the corner to see who comes through 1st.

Well i totally understand what you say. You are right. I am a flagsman in some racing events, so often feel that suspense of wainting to see who comes first. But at the same time there is a spectacular move on the other side of the track wich i didnt see, and after the race everyone is comenting on it.

Making all tracks like i said will destroy the magic of the sport, like you have said. But if you could have some, 3 or 4, like this it will be great because it will open a new concept, it will atract new adepts, and it will allow to open mind the racing culture.

Thanks for your input:tup:

If you put in a glass floor, then the drivers would be distracted trying to look up the spectators skirts. Maybe a glass track, up in the air would be better. But they would have to paint the sponsors logo's on the bottom of the cars.

:lol:

Do you know anything of NASCAR?. Not all tracks have seating above the track. Look at Watkins Glen, Infinion (Sonoma), Road America. They are NASCAR tracks too. Now granted they aren't your typical NASCAR tracks but be careful when you say such things.

I apologize. It was never my intention to hurt anyones feelings. I know that Nascar, as a whole isn't allways about a oval track and brute force.
If words had feelings you would have seen that it was meant to be joke. I just though that people will laugh and not taking that serious, thats way i have put a smile. From now one i will be more careful and i will edit my post.

Sorry again and thank you for the input.


Or maybe drugs are bad and you shouldn't do them! Or maybe I'm bad and I shouldn't do anything. What were we talking about again?

Being high isn't good for you.

Well my friends. I think we have here some ad hominem arguments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Examples: Jimi Hendrix died of a drug overdose, so his music was worthless.

First you must understand the meaning of drug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug
There is no single, precise definition, as there are different meanings

I will accept that you were referring to recreational drugs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_drug_use
Recreational drug use is the use of a drug, usually psychoactive, with the intention of creating or enhancing recreational experience. [...] Drugs commonly considered capable of recreational use include alcohol and tobacco.

Here are the harm ratings of recreational drugs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HarmCausedByDrugsTable.jpg

You should also read about responsible drug use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_drug_use

At least but non the less, lets analyzed the cannibis effects:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis#Recreational_use
Primary psychoactive effects include a state of relaxation, and to a lesser degree, euphoria from its main psychoactive compound, tetrahydrocannabinol. Secondary psychoactive effects, such as a facility for philosophical thinking; introspection and metacognition have been reported, amongst cases of anxiety and paranoia.[83] Finally, the tertiary psychoactive effects of the drug cannabis, can include an increase in heart rate and hunger, believed to be caused by 11-Hydroxy-THC, a psychoactive metabolite of THC produced in the liver.

Also check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_drug_theory as it is the base argument for cannibis not being legal in US:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)#Effects
This hypothesis has been one of the central pillars of anti-cannabis drug policy in the United States, though the validity and implications of these hypotheses are hotly debated.[62] Studies have shown that tobacco smoking is a better predictor of concurrent illicit hard drug use than smoking cannabis

Allways avaliable to clarify things up.

Happy racing to all GTplanet

Divinus
 
Divinus
Hi everyone:

Well i totally understand what you say. You are right. I am a flagsman in some racing events, so often feel that suspense of wainting to see who comes first. But at the same time there is a spectacular move on the other side of the track wich i didnt see, and after the race everyone is comenting on it.

Making all tracks like i said will destroy the magic of the sport, like you have said. But if you could have some, 3 or 4, like this it will be great because it will open a new concept, it will atract new adepts, and it will allow to open mind the racing culture.

Thanks for your input:tup:

:lol:

I apologize. It was never my intention to hurt anyones feelings. I know that Nascar, as a whole isn't allways about a oval track and brute force.
If words had feelings you would have seen that it was meant to be joke. I just though that people will laugh and not taking that serious, thats way i have put a smile. From now one i will be more careful and i will edit my post.

Sorry again and thank you for the input.

Well my friends. I think we have here some ad hominem arguments.

First you must understand the meaning of drug.

I will accept that you were referring to recreational drugs

Here are the harm ratings of recreational drugs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HarmCausedByDrugsTable.jpg

You should also read about responsible drug use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_drug_use

At least but non the less, lets analyzed the cannibis effects:

Also check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_drug_theory as it is the base argument for cannibis not being legal in US:

Allways avaliable to clarify things up.

Happy racing to all GTplanet

Divinus

You didn't hurt my feelings...
 
Here's a simple, cheaper solution: find a patch of land with lots of hills. Build a racing circuit on it. Not only do you get lots of natural spectator vantage points, but you get a challenging circuit to boot. They're doing it in Austin; the grandstands outside the first turn are thirty metres above most of the circuit, so people can see over 90% of the track. The only place they can't really see is the far side of turn eleven, which is a blind crest.
 
Here's a simple, cheaper solution: find a patch of land with lots of hills. Build a racing circuit on it. Not only do you get lots of natural spectator vantage points, but you get a challenging circuit to boot. They're doing it in Austin; the grandstands outside the first turn are thirty metres above most of the circuit, so people can see over 90% of the track. The only place they can't really see is the far side of turn eleven, which is a blind crest.

If they built some "underground boxes" it would be perfect. Anyways, the ideia is very close of what i have though. Well, it seems afterall that the concept isn't new :(
 
If they built some "underground boxes" it would be perfect.
No, it wouldn't. Sorry, but the expense required to bury everything is not worth the gain of a few spectators being able to see a little bit more of the circuit.
 
Just build it in the bottom of a huge meteor crater.





On the moon.




Space buggy racing.
 

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