Next Gen M5
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Bangle is blind.
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Except that Bangle is blind, right?
You're biased anyway. You'd be happy with a BMW box on wheels. Much like the X5.
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You're biased anyway. You'd be happy with a BMW box on wheels. Much like the X5.
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I am biased - I'm going to buy one. I'm even considering buying the 333-bhp 540i when it comes out. Supposedly, the new 5 is already out in the US (debuted 18 Sep) but I haven't seen it; the 540 will be out in mid-October.
Say what you will about their style but I think the 5 line is going to be one of the best sedans ever made (after seminal sedans like the 90-95 E-class excluding the 190).
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You should buy every 5-class trim within the next two years. Go!
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its out in canada, my parents were invited to the release party because they're good bmw customers.my dad is gonna get the 5 series in about a year
Originally posted by donbenni
Looks like a shambles compared to the M5 of the moment <- that is a beautiful car
This will put out 150 more horsepower - at least - than the M5 of the moment (for which production stopped months ago). Even if you don't like its looks, we're talking a four-cylinder Accord more power here. Kickass.
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I've seen unofficial reports that state that the new 5-series is actually quite popular and the demand is very strong for them. Personally I like the styling, maybe not too much the rear, but overall the new 5-series is great. Reports say it drives even better than the last 5 And with 500 bhp V10 coupled to a 7-speed transmission, the new M5 will kick ass 
I just wish they would reconsider that I-Drive thing. Can you give a short explanation of what the I-Drive is good for Doug? I'm sure you know alot more than me about this gizmo.
And with 500 bhp V10 coupled to a 7-speed transmission, the new M5 will kick ass I just wish they would reconsider that I-Drive thing. Can you give a short explanation of what the I-Drive is good for Doug? I'm sure you know alot more than me about this gizmo.
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I haven't used I-Drive, but it appears to be using a joystick like device and a computer screen to control stuff like audio, air conditioning, and that sort of thing, rather than having a bunch of dials.
Sorta like computer monitors... some have dials for contrast, brightness, screen position and such. Other monitors have something like I drive, where you press one button to bring up a menu, and navigate through that with just a couple of buttons.
The advantage is that there aren't a bunch of buttons and dials, the disadvantage is that there aren't a bunch of buttons and dials I haven't been in an "I Drive" BMW, so I can't really say how well the system works.
Sorta like computer monitors... some have dials for contrast, brightness, screen position and such. Other monitors have something like I drive, where you press one button to bring up a menu, and navigate through that with just a couple of buttons.
The advantage is that there aren't a bunch of buttons and dials, the disadvantage is that there aren't a bunch of buttons and dials
I haven't been in an "I Drive" BMW, so I can't really say how well the system works.Originally posted by T13R
I've seen unofficial reports that state that the new 5-series is actually quite popular and the demand is very strong for them. Personally I like the styling, maybe not too much the rear, but overall the new 5-series is great. Reports say it drives even better than the last 5
I'm a bit frightened - a very trusted British magazine says models are very trim specific (ie 'you-can't-have-this-without-getting-this'), but if that's the case, it will change dramatically after the first year on the market. If it's great, I think it's got a shot at the best sedan ever - it's all in the details with cars like this. I have heard it's to be a brilliant drivers' car, so I'm very psyched about that. I also like the styling, especially for the segment. The new E-class will get very old very fast with something considerably more 'daring' like the new 5-class on the market.
I just wish they would reconsider that I-Drive thing. Can you give a short explanation of what the I-Drive is good for Doug? I'm sure you know alot more than me about this gizmo.
Basic driving functions like the horn are on the steering wheel. Secondary functions like the lights and wipers are on conventional levers directly next to the wheel like on normal cars. Simple enough.
All other functions - changing or turning on the radio or a CD, making a phone call, changing or turning on the air-con, and setting up a navigation route - require iDrive, a simple circular button in the console connected to a screen within the drivers' line of site on the dash.
It isn't overly complicated, just extremely different, and when driving and trying to change the radio, motorists don't really want different. Bonuses of iDrive, however, are suspension settings which can be changed by simply accessing that program on iDrive, or traction control which can be enabled or disabled the same way. Problem is that it's difficult to become acclimated, even more so with v1.0 software which reset the car to default settings everytime the engine was turned off (not sure if that saw production or if it was stopped before it got out).
Edit - something struck me as another detractor of iDrive as I was reading over this: if iDrive breaks, you aren't looking for a mechanic to repair your car, you're looking for a very skilled computer worker, which certainly drives up the cost of all of BMW's line because those people certainly require a lot more money than a normal mechanic. Not good.
Overall, it's a major hurdle the 5-class has to overcome. Truly. I wish they'd go back to the normal methodology, too, and I'm usually all for 'good different.' This is good different - with a few more iDrive cars it will soon be perfected. But do we really want it perfected? I just want to drive my car in peace...
Originally posted by boombexus
Yes, very cool car indeed. I saw 5 of them in a row east bound I-70 last week in Avon. Very cool car. 👍 But only one of them had actual "Phaeton" badging. The rest only had VW insignia.
Yeah - lots of Jettas and Passats are the same way - I haven't really bothered to check for Golfs. Usually just the best models have the full badging.
The Phaeton rules because it's so much larger than competition, both in size and in overall presence. Observe:
Practically. It isn't "VV," but "W," and the practice isn't new - the current Volkswagen Passat has a high-end, pathetically unpopular model known as the W8 (in both sedan and wagon forms, and with standard all-wheel drive) which uses the same basic technology, but with two 4-cylinder engines.
Correct me if I'm wrong, also, but Volkswagen's now-defunct attempt to break the production car speed record was with a concept sports car known as the W16, which was the same idea but with two V8's, wasn't it? (anybody?) And although this is purely speculation on my part, I think that engine could be in the Bugatti Veyron now.
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Wait, actually I started looking, and the VW car I was thinking of was actually a W12. They may have had a W16 also, but I can't find anything about it.
One article claims that the W8 in the passat is basicly a half of the W16 used in the Bugatti though. It was from Forbes or something like that, I don't know if it can be trusted. They said "we don't know why half the engine doesn't make half the power". It's called quad turbos
One article claims that the W8 in the passat is basicly a half of the W16 used in the Bugatti though. It was from Forbes or something like that, I don't know if it can be trusted. They said "we don't know why half the engine doesn't make half the power". It's called quad turbos
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M5Power/Doug;
Get your ass over to a BMW dealership and drive a new 5. It rocks.
Make sure it has the sports package with Active Roll/Steer. I read the same Car article you did, and I don't agree with them.
They're right about Active Roll: its da shiznit. It has signifigantly less body roll and better initial turn-in than my M3. Its that good. Really.
Active Steer is really better than they make it out to be. You can get used to it for a street car, and it would be pretty cool at an auto-x (very little hand shuffling).
Bottom line is the E60 Active Roll/Steer is one of BMW's best handling cars ... EVER. The 545 is going to be fantasic; and the M5 is going to be a friggin monster.
Forget the i-Drive whiners. Forget the Bangle hating tunnel vision head-in-the-sand bandwagon. This car is the real deal.
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Get your ass over to a BMW dealership and drive a new 5. It rocks.
Make sure it has the sports package with Active Roll/Steer. I read the same Car article you did, and I don't agree with them.
They're right about Active Roll: its da shiznit. It has signifigantly less body roll and better initial turn-in than my M3. Its that good. Really.
Active Steer is really better than they make it out to be. You can get used to it for a street car, and it would be pretty cool at an auto-x (very little hand shuffling).
Bottom line is the E60 Active Roll/Steer is one of BMW's best handling cars ... EVER. The 545 is going to be fantasic; and the M5 is going to be a friggin monster.
Forget the i-Drive whiners. Forget the Bangle hating tunnel vision head-in-the-sand bandwagon. This car is the real deal.
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Im a little confused 
how can this be a new M5 when it is supposed to be discontinued.
BMW M5 and Z8 to discontinue
how can this be a new M5 when it is supposed to be discontinued.
BMW M5 and Z8 to discontinue
That statement was horribly misleading. The M5 was discontinued, on the current model. It will be re-continued (again) on the next model in 2005. BMW always does this - the last three M5s have been released well after the standard 5-series came out.
The Z8 will be cancelled, however, though it served its image-boosting purpose.
The Z8 will be cancelled, however, though it served its image-boosting purpose.
