Next Season's calendar

[Ian Poole]

Just to let y'all know, if you don't already, they released the provisional calender for next season and it goes as follows:

March 14 - Bahrain (Sakhir)

March 28 - Australia (Melbourne)

April 4 - Malaysia (Sepang)

April 25 - Turkey (Istanbul)

May 9 - Spain (Barcelona)

May 23 - Monaco (Monte Carlo)

June 6 - Canada (Montreal)

June 27 - Europe (Valencia)

July 11 - Great Britain (Donington Park)

July 25 - Germany (Hockenheim)

August 1 - Hungary (Budapest)

August 22 - Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps)

September 5 - Italy (Monza)

September 19 - China (Shanghai)

September 26 - Singapore (Singapore)

October 10 - Japan (Suzuka)

October 24 - Brazil (Interlagos)

November 7 - Abu Dhabi (Yas Marina)


First thing that strikes is there is no South Korea, that was supposed to be on for this year and the grouping together of some races, i.e. the block of four Asian races down the bottom here, a good idea there.

The main problem that i have is that there is no USGP, need that if you are gonna have the Canadian GP back

 

[Ardius]

We don't need Indianapolis thanks, wasn't that great a track. Have a US GP sure, but we need a better track.

I for one am glad we are seeing Canada instead of South Korea. How many people would rather have a new track or Circuit Gilles Villenueve? Old circuits are overall better than the new ones, barely any of the new circuits have given such great races as the oldies have.

I don't mind re-designs though like Donington (if it ever happens), though new Hockenheim < old Hockenheim.

Anyway, good calendar though we could really do without these boring Spanish tracks. Why can't they give the Spanish a decent track? Jerez, Catalunya and Valencia are so horrible.

 

[Ian Poole]

We don't need Indianapolis thanks, wasn't that great a track. Have a US GP sure, but we need a better track.

I for one am glad we are seeing Canada instead of South Korea. How many people would rather have a new track or Circuit Gilles Villenueve? Old circuits are overall better than the new ones, barely any of the new circuits have given such great races as the oldies have.

I don't mind re-designs though like Donington (if it ever happens), though new Hockenheim < old Hockenheim.

Anyway, good calendar though we could really do without these boring Spanish tracks. Why can't they give the Spanish a decent track? Jerez, Catalunya and Valencia are so horrible.

Couldn't agree more on the Indy part, need to go elsewhere

Secondly, Catalunya now is boring but catalunya 2006 was awesome with those two fast corners at the end and do you mean Valencia streets or Raul Tamudo?

 

[Ardius]

Valencia streets of course, we've never had an F1 race on the circuit.
Catalunya was never "awesome"

The best Spanish circuit was the Montjuïc circuit.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

First thing that strikes is there is no South Korea, that was supposed to be on for this year

I think you'll find th reason for that is the political crisis we went through earlier this year. The organisers had broken the earth at the site of the circuit, but they hadn't made much headway when FOTA went rogue. They were probably unwilling to commit to building the circuit if there was to be no Formula One championship next year.

The main problem that i have is that there is no USGP, need that if you are gonna have the Canadian GP back

Actually, you don't need it at all. The Canadian Grand Prix has been held since 1967, though it didn't appear in 1975 or 1987. The United States Grand Prix, however has been held on and off since 1959, and there are huges gaps between 1981 and 1988 and again between 1991 and 1999. And where the Canadian Grand Prix has consistently been held at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, the United States Grand Prix has inconsistently lurched between Watkins Glen, Long Beach, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Detroit and Indianapolis. he Canadian Grand Prix is quite capable of surviving on its own; hell, the United States Grand Prix probably would survive without the Canadian, not the other way around, because if there was a race in America, but not in Canada, it would be very difficult for the teams to justify racing there.

Anyway, good calendar though we could really do without these boring Spanish tracks. Why can't they give the Spanish a decent track? Jerez, Catalunya and Valencia are so horrible.

Apaprently they do have one, Motorland Aragon. It's Tilke-designed, but said to be one of his finest. However, it's not intended for anything greater than Formula Two.

 

[Peter]

Good calendar. Dammit, they need to drop Valencia, it's a yawnfest. I fell asleep watching that race, and had to watch the recap. Maybe they can bring Jerez back? If it is is a condition to host a GP again. Anyone have a map of the Donington Park track they will be using?

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Anyone have a map of the Donington Park track they will be using?

 

[Peter]

Hmm, I like. Silverstone was pretty boring this year, hope that Donongton can do a good job.

 

[senamic]

Dear Dear Dear.......
Melbourne no longer hosts Round 1?
And the final round is not returning to Interlagos or Suzuka?
.......Dear Dear Dear

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Melbourne no longer hosts Round 1?

It's ony provisional, mind you. They want the championship to start sooner on account of having eighteen races, but Melbourne has to be a twilight race to suit European audiences. You can't have the best of both worlds.

And the final round is not returning to Interlagos or Suzuka?

Don't judge Abu Dhabi just yet. Save it until they've actually raced there.

 

[senamic]

It's ony provisional, mind you. They want the championship to start sooner on account of having eighteen races, but Melbourne has to be a twilight race to suit European audiences. You can't have the best of both worlds.

Twilight racing at Melbourne was proven to be risky, possibly dangerous this year in Melbourne. If they want to continue with twilight GPs at the risk of the drivers, just so that Mr John Smith in London or Brussels or Berlin can sleep in a bit, the European fans should take a long, hard look at themselves.

 

[Peter]

Didn't the season start at the end of March this year? Why so early now? They now have even less time for testing, which is already banned during the season.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Twilight racing at Melbourne was proven to be risky, possibly dangerous this year in Melbourne.

It's not that risky. Okay, so the sun gets in their eyes a little bit, but the beauty of it is that it's only really in one spot and that spot is around turn six, which runs under the trees.

If they want to continue with twilight GPs at the risk of the drivers, just so that Mr John Smith in London or Brussels or Berlin can sleep in a bit, the European fans should take a long, hard look at themselves.

Actually, it's Ecclestone who wants it. Sure, we can take the high-and-mighty approach, but if the organisaers want to keep the Australian Grand Prix, they'll hold it at twilight. And since Formula One is and always has been a predominatnly European sport, I'd say they have a greater voice on the matter.

Didn't the season start at the end of March this year? Why so early now? They now have even less time for testing, which is already banned during the season.

More races. The 2010 calendar looks set for eighteen rounds, and with India and South Korea on the way, that's looking more like twenty in the not-too-distant future.

 

[Peter]

Am I the only person who wants Imola back? I love that track, it has some history, good and bad.

 

[Ian Poole]

Am I the only person who wants Imola back? I love that track, it has some history, good and bad.

No, I would love to see Imola back, just can't see it happening with the new layout from Rivazza

 

[Tired Tyres]

Imola is a classic example of a beautiful flowing track utterly ruined by chicane after chicane after chicane.

 

[L_Hamilton]

South Korea Secure Funds for 2010 GP.

Promoters of the planned South Korean Formula 1 race say they now have the funding in place to build a circuit that will be ready in time to host a grand prix next year.

The Korea Auto Valley Operation (KAVO) &#8211; a joint-venture between private firm M-Bridge Holdings and the provincial government &#8211; said in a statement that it had secured loan agreements with nine local banks worth 198 billion won (£95 million).

The remaining 236 billion won (£114m) required to build the track and run the event will come from public subsidy and the organisers&#8217; capital.

South Korea agreed a deal with Bernie Ecclestone three years ago for a race in 2010, but the construction of the venue has been delayed by a lack of funds.

KAVO said it was now in a position to accelerate preparations for the country&#8217;s first F1 race and expected the track to be completed by next July.

The 3.5-mile circuit has been designed by Hermann Tilke and will be located approximately 200 miles south of Seoul in the southwestern province of Jeollanam-do.

A South Korean round was not included in various draft versions of the 2010 calendar circulated to the teams at last weekend&#8217;s Belgian Grand Prix, but it is understood that the schedule is still some way from being finalized.

Seems that the 2010 schedule is not finalized yet.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Seems that the 2010 schedule is not finalized yet.

All the articles that published the calendar the thread started poster did remarked that it was only provisional.

 

[orimarc]

Valencia streets or Raul Tamudo?

Raul Tamudo? Er...the Valencia circuit is Ricardo Tormo. Raul Tamudo is this guy:

I think F1 should go either Jerez or Ricardo Tormo. Catalunya is good for testing.

 

[yeti]

One thing that has confused me...

Why does Spain get 2 GP's - when 5 years ago they barely managed a crowd in one of them? - And also last year they had massive racism problems?

C.

 

[Ingram]

I think F1 should go either Jerez or Ricardo Tormo. Catalunya is good for testing.

It seems to me that most of the Spanish circuits are designed with bikes in mind, rather than cars. Due to lots of fast, flowing corners that lead immediately from one to another, Jerez, Catalunya and Ricardo Tormo all provide fantastic racing in MotoGP/Superbike, but the cars find it very difficult to overtake at these traks.

The Valencia street circuit proves that a modern street circuit is rather pointless, because it has to be so sanitised in order to make it safe, you just end up with barriers so high that you are unable to see the streets that are raced on, resulting in no drama, excitement, or indeed a feeling they are racing on a street.

Hmm, I like. Silverstone was pretty boring this year, hope that Donongton can do a good job.

To be fair to Silverstone, it has provided some of the best races in recent years, 2003 when Barrichello won immediately springs to mind. The whole bike racing factor that I mentioned above also makes me wonder how easy it will be for a Formula 1 cars to overtake at Donnington. It will look spectacular seeing them fly down the craner curves, but it will definitely be single file traffic from there up to the (new) Start-Finish straight.

 

[orimarc]

It seems to me that most of the Spanish circuits are designed with bikes in mind, rather than cars.

I think that's because of drivers like Angel Nieto, Alex Crivillé...MotoGP (then called "500cc") was very popular years before Alonso even raced with Minardi.

A) Why does Spain get 2 GP's - when 5 years ago they barely managed a crowd in one of them?
B) And also last year they had massive racism problems?

A) The Alonsomania. 5 years ago, the fans didn't have a double WDC winner on the grid. That, and money, of course.

B) They didn't had massive racism problems, they just had a tiny group of stupid, redneck-like (bleep) that think insult a rival driver is a good thing. Especially with racist insults.

 

[Ian Poole]

Raul Tamudo? Er...the Valencia circuit is Ricardo Tormo. Raul Tamudo is this guy:

I think F1 should go either Jerez or Ricardo Tormo. Catalunya is good for testing.

I do apologise, I always called it Raul Tamudo, thank you for correcting myself

 

[prisonermonkeys]

B) They didn't had massive racism problems, they just had a tiny group of stupid, redneck-like (bleep) that think insult a rival driver is a good thing. Especially with racist insults.

I hate to say it, but I'm not entirely sure it's that small of a group. I remember a few years ago when Spanish tennis fans were getting stuck into other players in a similar fashion to what they were doing to Hamilton. I can't speak fo other sports like football, but one has to wonder ...

 

[Ian Poole]

I hate to say it, but I'm not entirely sure it's that small of a group. I remember a few years ago when Spanish tennis fans were getting stuck into other players in a similar fashion to what they were doing to Hamilton. I can't speak fo other sports like football, but one has to wonder ...

They do it in football, i remember a couple of incidents in particular, when England went over to Madrid for a friendly and Heskey and Ashley Cole were giving the money chants, Samuel Eto was also subjected during a Barcelona game, this it was against Deportivo Espanyol but not sure.

 

[Oshow]

+3 for Imola!!! Miss that race... Not missing Indy one little bit.

 

[Ingram]

I think that's because of drivers like Angel Nieto, Alex Crivillé...MotoGP (then called "500cc") was very popular years before Alonso even raced with Minardi.

Indeed, and they are all the better for being designed for bikes IMO. Grand Prix bikes has never had the same popularity in the UK, possibly because we haven't had a 500cc champion in 22 years...

Donnington was also designed with bike racing in mind way back when, which is why I think Silverstone would be a better venue for the British Grand Prix.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Canada is definately in.

 

[orimarc]

Canada is definately in.

Yipikayei!

 

[Ian Poole]

Yipikayei!

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