Night time is too dark, lights have flat batteries...game is too dark in general

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I drove the Lambo stage, floundered around in last place occasionally braking 300 metres too early and other times ploughing straight into the walls; and haven't played a night event since.

I thought it was beyond ridiculous.

I reckon there is a bug with that stage, because you can clearly see that the lights don't light up some sections of road at all, but don't let that one stage put you off night driving in the game, take a car to the Nurburgring in the dark and you won't be dissapointed :)
 
I reckon there is a bug with that stage, because you can clearly see that the lights don't light up some sections of road at all, but don't let that one stage put you off night driving in the game, take a car to the Nurburgring in the dark and you won't be dissapointed :)

You may be right on that one, and as that challenge maybe a lot of peoples first real experience of night driving it's not a good first impression.
 
Yeah... few are the voices of reason and experience, and yet we are ignored in this festival of flames... :lol:

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Try seeing an obstacle at 160 km/h plus on dark asphalt. Can't. You basically have to feel your way along and find your braking zones and apexes from memory. Even the HIDs on a BMW can't make up for the total lack of street lighting when going at twice the speed limit. (I swear... if that guy had kept going one kilometer further, I would have asked him to drop me off in the middle of the highway...).

Doesn't help, either, that black asphalt doesn't reflect HID light.
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If you've never "outdriven" your lights, you've never actually driven fast enough.


I love this post. <3.


You know what really got me? Was the know-it-alls who registered just to comment (wrongly) about something they didn't understand (outdriving your headlights).

If you want a longer throw on your headlights, you use a different reflector that narrows the beam, but throws it further. This cuts out your peripheral vision though, which would be okay on a race track, but deadly on the street. This is why road cars use lights optimized for highway speeds with a wide throw so you can see hazards on the side of the road, be it deer/people/broken down cars/whatever.
 
It does look good on the ring and Le Mans but with certain cars and certain tracks is it severely lacking in the high beam department. It's hard to deny that those shots of Toscana in the Lambo are not far too dark. Guess it's indicitave of GT5 though, when it does something well it's pretty much perfect but when it doesn't it can be pretty bad. Just wish it was a rock solid consistent experience.

I don't know if you actually noticed the difference but every car has their own set of headlights. Some have Xenon, other's don't. Old cars have crappy headlights, new cars seem to do way better but it still comes down to the light specs of the car, which is epic.
 
I disagree! currently I'm addicted to driving the nordsleife at night, and I think those lights are exactly as they should be. Just like others said in this topic, you try driving a car at 150+ mph at night. See how your times drop in epic proportions.

Just slow down like you would in real life in order not to kill yourself. You'll then realize it's better than in any other game!

The Ring is fine in some cars, but SS5 to me is broken IMO, so to the Toscana night track and SS7 to some extent

Then in the menus, the shadow areas of the car set pieces are really too dark. Same for the garage car showcases, the wheels show it in the worst light.

Sometimes the lighting will glitch on the Eiger K trail and make the road totally white as well in some cars in the cockpit view!
Again it's down to some weird dynamic range issues with GT5's lighting system

Having to constantly change EV values between tracks, and when changing from bumper to cockpit view does not speak highly of GT5's quality and consistency...
 
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I don't know if you actually noticed the difference but every car has their own set of headlights. Some have Xenon, other's don't. Old cars have crappy headlights, new cars seem to do way better but it still comes down to the light specs of the car, which is epic.

I'm fully aware that different cars have different headlights. Been driving for almost twenty years now, in all sorts of different cars, conditions and country's. Take a look at the shots posted of Toscana in the Lambo again. Thats just isn't right in my almost 20 years of driving experience.
 
Have you ever tried driving 150 mph at night?

I've driven 60 on dark country roads with my high beams on, with nice headlights, and it's pretty hard to see. At 150 you outdrive your lights pretty darn easily.

I think it's realistic for the lights that these cars have, but we need to be able to upgrade the lights to make it easier to drive at speed in the dark.

You need to go a little faster to outrun light....
 
The problem as I experienced it was that the headlights did not show the track at all going uphill. It should have hit the ground, but it dissapears totally. They also should have made the light of the headlights stronger. Not to much but way more than they have used. It just felt strange going uphill and the light did not hit anything. Totally black on the road.

I love that they have made this feature in the game, but it need some small adjustments for it to become more fun to drive at night.
 
Driving in the middle of the night towards Las Vegas, its dark. GT5 looks just fine to me, yes it's dark, and expected. Maybe they should include bulbs as items, some Silver Stars, maybe? :)

I've never ever seen you type anything thing that would even touch GT5 in the negative way....
 
Well when I turn on high beams in real life I can see a good 100+ metres down the road


I can actually do that in the game too, but i had to research my tv options for a minute there.

Put yr colors at 6500k instead of the "better" and "sexy blue" 9300k spectrum. Latter is newer and "better" but in reality alot of HD games are natively created on 6500k and run nicer better on there. I did it; and put overscan of my tv off and it's a beauty now. High beams and old cars are big long massive yellow lights staring into the pitchblackness. Trees and treetops highlighted into the distance... Perfect.

Some people forget hd is flawed because to many settings prechanged already in the shop, research your tv, and try again!👍
 
racing in the dark (especially when raining) is incredibley difficult, you certainly dont outrun your headlights, though that comment did ammuse me, however you do look to follow tail lights and end up driving by memory, even with full beam you still struggle..

in saying that there are 2 issues, the head lights do not make enough difference in the game, it is and should be hard to see and drive but not 'that' bad.

My experience in the game has been with the lambo (GT Tour?) on what I assume is a generated track?, i cant learn the track and have no co-driver (though even in the rally events he needs a good slap at times), so you have to be very catious.

If you were to drive on a track you knew like the back of your hand you wouldnt find the light issues 'as' important.
 
Well when I turn on high beams in real life I can see a good 100+ metres down the road
The other problem with GT5 is that there is no indirect illumination, only direct, hence when in the Lambo, if you stopped and facing an upward road, all you see is darkness...

There is also skylight and moonlight too in real life.

If your forced to jack up the brightness, EV and turn on the driving line, then things aren't well done IMO


I can actually do that in the game too, but i had to research my tv options for a minute there.

Put yr colors at 6500k instead of the "better" and "sexy blue" 9300k spectrum. Latter is newer and "better" but in reality alot of HD games are natively created on 6500k and run necer better on there. I did it; and put overscan of my tv off and it's a beauty now. High beams and old cars are big long massive yellow lights staring into the pitchblackness. Trees and treetops highlighted into the distance... Perfect.

Some people forget hd is flawed because to many settings prechanged already in the shop, research your tv, and try again!👍
 
It's your tv/screen, up the gamma, brightness, contrast, whatever till you're happy.

You said the menu screen is too dark? It's 100% your tv, i can see things fine and very clear, night racing is dark because it's night, and hard to see.
 
racing in the dark (especially when raining) is incredibley difficult, you certainly dont outrun your headlights, though that comment did ammuse me

It's poorly worded but he's right. At speed you travel too quick for what your -->headlights<-- can -->illuminate<-- safely. The projection of the light doesn't reach far enough ahead for you to react when you're doing 50 metres a second.
 
I haven't read all the commentss in this page and won't, but for those who don't know that are using it, when playing GT 5 you should set your HDMI RGB range to limited, as having it set to Full will making EVERYTHING that is suppose to be dark more saturated (darker). Setting it to limited will solve this problem. It is NOT a problem with the game settings or your TV.

I had this same problem at first.
 
It's poorly worded but he's right. At speed you travel too quick for what your -->headlights<-- can -->illuminate<-- safely. The projection of the light doesn't reach far enough ahead for you to react when you're doing 50 metres a second.

worse with rain and spray as you just get it reflected straight back at you, following tail lights is bad practice but i tend to find myself doing that, not got that much experience in racing in the dark though
 
It's your tv/screen, up the gamma, brightness, contrast, whatever till you're happy.

You said the menu screen is too dark? It's 100% your tv, i can see things fine and very clear, night racing is dark because it's night, and hard to see.

The argument is not that it's dark at night but that on certain tracks the headlights do not illuminate as much of the road and environment as some expect. Once again look at the images posted from the Toscana stage in the Lambo.
 
I haven't read all the commentss in this page and won't, but for those who don't know that are using it, when playing GT 5 you should set your HDMI RGB range to limited, as having it set to Full will making EVERYTHING that is suppose to be dark more saturated (darker). Setting it to limited will solve this problem. It is NOT a problem with the game settings or your TV.

I had this same problem at first.

Thanks for the tip. Will check my setting and change as necessary.
 
The night is great and should not be changed. I have no problem with my HDTV at night. Its actually guessed it dark as in night. Unlike most game where you can drive without the headlights at night, GT5 has made it where you cant. It has the best night I've seen in a game and congratulate them on making it what it is instead of making some half-*** night mode.
 
Night time is just as it should be.
People that live in cities maybe never get to feel how driving in the dark really feels like.

dark forest, no other cars.
Yes it's really dark when no moon shines on the road.

Also, I want to be able to turn of the lights all together.
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The lights in this game are not representative of real world car lighting. Regardless of the speed you are going in the game (stop the car dead and have a good look, the headlights are still rubbish) it doesn't not look like real lighting.

I drive to work down a section of country lane every day in a hyundai i30 and that perfectly lights the road up for miles ahead. To counter this tepid car I've also a kawasaki zx6r and I've hit 130 a couple of times at night and my bike lights are also way better than anything shown in game. They game headlight simply do not illuminate far enough ahead, they seem to be aimed about 5 yards in front.
 
I also find the Toscana night track with the Lambo way too dark. When you pick up speed, the front edge of the headlight beam starts dropping and creeping closer to the front of your car to about several meters. This is very unrealistic. Half the time you can only guess where the road is.
 
I also find the Toscana night track with the Lambo way too dark. When you pick up speed, the front edge of the headlight beam starts dropping and creeping closer to the front of your car to about several meters. This is very unrealistic. Half the time you can only guess where the road is.

Yeah, i'm constantly checking road map and suggested gears. It's not realistic, but it gets the job done.
 
The car headlights are crap, you cant see more than 2ft infront of you. Not sure how many people have driven in the dark in real life, but amazingly you can actually see with the headlights on! Imagine that!
 
I haven't read all the commentss in this page and won't, but for those who don't know that are using it, when playing GT 5 you should set your HDMI RGB range to limited, as having it set to Full will making EVERYTHING that is suppose to be dark more saturated (darker). Setting it to limited will solve this problem. It is NOT a problem with the game settings or your TV.

I had this same problem at first.
Uh, what? It's most definitely a problem with the game and/or TV. RGB range full should not just crank up the shadows and highlights to extremes, they should allow extremes without encouraging them. If there are an abundance then it's the fault of PD for failing to use it properly.
 
The car headlights are crap, you cant see more than 2ft infront of you. Not sure how many people have driven in the dark in real life, but amazingly you can actually see with the headlights on! Imagine that!

Try the f430 Scuderia. It has bi xenon headlights.
 
Have you ever tried driving 150 mph at night?

I've driven 60 on dark country roads with my high beams on, with nice headlights, and it's pretty hard to see. At 150 you outdrive your lights pretty darn easily.

I think it's realistic for the lights that these cars have, but we need to be able to upgrade the lights to make it easier to drive at speed in the dark.

so, your saying that you travelling at over 300,000,000 m/s? what engine have you got?
 
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