Night time is too dark, lights have flat batteries...game is too dark in general

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To be honest, as long as it is interesting driving in the night, I'm okay with the flaws (too dark), if there are any.
 
Holy ****. It's amazing how many people have never heard of the phrase "outdriving your headlights".

Everybody needs to show off their physics knowledge at every turn I suppose. Just FYI, I'm an electrical engineer, so I know plenty about electromagnetics and light.

And you guys still all got it wrong anyway when trying to be smart. You can't go the speed of light if you have mass, no matter what. It takes an infinite amount of energy. You definitely can't go FASTER than the speed of light, regardless of your mass.

I even explained the phrase a few posts later, but still 17 people had to come show how smart they are.
 
Either my TV is set up correctly or I'm just used to real life night time driving, because I don't have any problems with GT5's night time. Where there's street lights, like SSR7, it's actually quite easy to see. On that Toscana special event with the Murcielago, it's actually like driving down a road with no street lights. All you have is your own headlights and the road signs to guide you.
 
Pedal-Force
Holy ****. It's amazing how many people have never heard of the phrase "outdriving your headlights".

Everybody needs to show off their physics knowledge at every turn I suppose. Just FYI, I'm an electrical engineer, so I know plenty about electromagnetics and light.

And you guys still all got it wrong anyway when trying to be smart. You can't go the speed of light if you have mass, no matter what. It takes an infinite amount of energy. You definitely can't go FASTER than the speed of light, regardless of your mass.

I even explained the phrase a few posts later, but still 17 people had to come show how smart they are.
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Lighten up dude I think most people, at least I did, meant it all tongue in cheek. ;)

I also find it amazing how many people, when provided with evidence to the contrary, stil maintain that the headlights are perfectly fine on Toscana in that Lambo, becasue even at 40 mph, driving well within your lights there are still occasions where you can't see jack ;)

I don't think anyone is expecting to have some magical glow that surrounds your car to a distance of 50 m at all times, if they are then god help them, most just want the effect to be as we experience in the real world. They got it about spot on at the ring and Le Mans, why not all the tracks.
 
VTiRoj
Either my TV is set up correctly or I'm just used to real life night time driving, because I don't have any problems with GT5's night time. Where there's street lights, like SSR7, it's actually quite easy to see. On that Toscana special event with the Murcielago, it's actually like driving down a road with no street lights. All you have is your own headlights and the road signs to guide you.
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If thats how much your full beams illuminate the road when driving I'd get down to Kwik Fit or you might just find you fail your next MOT ;)
 
I bet if you did toscana at night with SLS, you'd see everything. Could someone post a pic with SLS lights, i was driving it at the ring and everything was illuminated nicely, certanly not pitch black like with lambo.
 
InSight
I bet if you did toscana at night with SLS, you'd see everything. Could someone post a pic with SLS lights, i was driving it at the ring and everything was illuminated nicely, certanly not pitch black like with lambo.
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From what I've seen the ring and Le Mans are not too bad and from the vids posted (without actually knowing what vid camera settings were used ) they look about right. Toscana on the other hand just looks way off. But yeah, as many videos as possible or direct screen caps would certainly help try and work out what is going on. Like I said above, it's just a shame that most peoples first experience of night driving is at Toscana in that Lambo.
 
I think this might just be a little glitch on this grand tour event. When I drove the lights were fine on level sections of the road but on hills they were useless. I think the light beams were travelling horizontal to the level sections of track, not horizontal to the actual car.
Driving around nurburgring I haven't noticed any problems with the lights.
 
There are many dips and crests at toscana tracks, i've created and test-driven them. The trick is to pay attention to the map, gears and switch to low beams when high beams become useless. When you go over a crest, lights shine into the sky and when you're in a dip, lights don't illuminate much of the road ahead. This is where low beams are more effective.

Road is useless at toscana, so you have to observe fences and reflective signs.
 
LtTopper
Thank god for the driving line, or I would've been screwed.👍
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So far that lambo challenge in the dark is the only time I've had issues with the dark. The headlights in the challenge don't do anything at times. You can come to a complete stop and not be able to see anything at all. It's insane. I had to turn the line on just to know where to go at times.
The lighting on the rest of the tracks is fine.
 
The whole thing seems perfectly real to me! I have an SDTV, but none of the menus seem to dark to me, And neither do the night races. I raced with a NASCAR on Le Mans night to see how dark it got, and was greatly relieved for half a second when it vanished totally in absence of streetlights and sensible people in the online lobby i was racing. Then i got, naturally terrified...

Yet night racing with lights is perfect. With full beam on you see as far as anyone could for real. And i thought the streetlights were really real looking too... Maybe your TV is set too dark, i know i had to lighten the settings on mine for my PS3 when i got it at first. So it could just be your TV, and are you getting the same strange issue at Tokyo where everytime a camera changes at all it Darkens madly for half a second? I have only seen it on tokyo though...

I agree that Lambo's have really pathetic lights anyway, and like you, i think the Headlights do their only unrealism thing when you encounter steep hills, its like they only come out at horizontal no matter what way its pointing...
 
Was just doing the S10 license and even that is way too dark. Towards the end of the race I got completely lost whilst leading and nearly smashed into a wall because I couldn't see more than 2ft ahead of my car.
 
I don't see a problem with the night tracks. Sure visibility is poor but that is what happens when it is dark. In real life anything over 60 mph means you are driving beyond the limit of your headlights. In other words if you are doing 80 and you see something in the road ahead it is to late to stop.

Also note that in some conditions you can see better with low beams.
 
Flying down a pitch black road at 178.8 MPH with highbeams didn't leave me very much time to react to the cop sitting on the dirt. If anything this game gives you more light than you'd ever get in real life...
 
I drive Toscan night with a R32 and i see just fine, I like it dark, reminds me of Initial D :D
But I usually cannot react in time because I always understimate my speed while racing during night time.
 
It's very easy why it looks dark. You're sitting in a light environment, and you're looking at a dark screen. Your eyes cannot accomodate well to that.

In real life you're sitting in a dark car, and barely see anything so your eyes accomodate to the circumstances. So you'll see more at night.
To fix this issue in GT5 you need to sit in a completely dark room :). When I turn off the light in my room,. the night in-game doesn't seem so dark anymore and it's easier to drive.
 
speedthrill
I can actually do that in the game too, but i had to research my tv options for a minute there.

Put yr colors at 6500k instead of the "better" and "sexy blue" 9300k spectrum. Latter is newer and "better" but in reality alot of HD games are natively created on 6500k and run nicer better on there. I did it; and put overscan of my tv off and it's a beauty now. High beams and old cars are big long massive yellow lights staring into the pitchblackness. Trees and treetops highlighted into the distance... Perfect.

Some people forget hd is flawed because to many settings prechanged already in the shop, research your tv, and try again!👍
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I don't use a TV, I have a high end Sony Trinitron CRT monitor, and I have everything set up properly and it's calibrated with a colour meter. So it is infact far more accurate looking than your average TV and doesn't sufffer from lag and ghosting issues being a CRT.

I have posted direct cap pics from my PS3 on page 4. So TV/Monitor are not the issue. The actual output from the PS3 is dark in the pics
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=140690&page=4#post4285719
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=140690&page=4#post4285818
 
I'd say it's pretty darn close. I've done 120 in the countryside - and you do outdrive the headlights.

And to you loons saying that you can't outdrive them, go try it. What your lights light up at that speed is completely irrelevant. Useless. You must be watching down the road, not 50 feet in front of you.

They got it right at night, though the cockpits during the day are way to dark.
 
Watch the episode of Top Gear, where they enter the 24 hour race with their bio-diesel powered BMW. You can't see s*** in real life. I've also driven on completely black country roads with no street lights at all and my brand new H4 headlights and still....you can't see s***.
 
CoolColJ
I can't honestly believe Kaz sat down to play GT5 on night courses and felt the lights in the cars were doing a realistic job of illluminating the landscape. And likewise with the street lamps....

It's way too dark!!
Even cranking up the EV doesn't help, it just makes the brighter areas brighter and more blown out

Must be some issue with GT5's lighting engine, or a design oversight.

In some instances, from cockpit view, facing an uphill road, you can't see anything at all! See the night race on Toscana Tarmac in Lambo :crazy:

Plus the menus and garage scenes are also way too dark :(
A patch to fix is badly needed
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👍👍👍👍 YES..YES..YES... OP you are correct KAZ/PD are stupid..I don't think that they ever played there own game at night .. It's too dark you can't see anything !!!! that's not realistic !!

Too prove your point (CoolColJ ) Listen and look at how it really feels like too drive at night in a race :

P.S: Keep in mind that the fact that you are able to see the road more clearly is because the video camera filming/recording the race most likely increased it's ISO/exposer Setting on the camera .It's actually darker in real life then this video shows. here's the link :

http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/gallery/d5287n2.html

It all happens withing the first 46 seconds of the video start. (CoolColJ) listen carefully to how night driving is explained !


Jesus people complain about every thing:crazy:
Next time try the game with another TV 💡
Or your copy Is FUBAR .
 
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I don;t mind the dark but I am hoping that if it rains during the 24 hour Nurburgring race that the rain will be during daylight hours only. Driving after night in the rain is bad enough at 55 mph much worse at 200 + mph.
 
gold_ultima
Watch the episode of Top Gear, where they enter the 24 hour race with their bio-diesel powered BMW. You can't see s*** in real life. I've also driven on completely black country roads with no street lights at all and my brand new H4 headlights and still....you can't see s***.
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But your headlights do illuminate the road, right? At least a bit?

We've all driven at night, on unlit roads. Even the smallest headlight will supply you with the information you require most urgently. If it does not, it is not a usable or legal headlight.

GT5 (particularly at Toscana) is like driving with side-lights on. The switch from Full-Beam to Dipped and vice-versa demonstrates just how wrong it is. There is no obvious extra lighting further up the road, just the odd sign or something shows up as if you had shone a £2 torch at it. Anyone that has driven a car at night will tell you just how much of a difference there is between a dipped beam and full beam. If there weren't, you'd drive on full beam all the time, I can't see any GT5 headlights blinding oncoming traffic, can you?
 
Yep, my bmw's high-beams make it looks like the sun just rose in front of me. It looks to me like the lights in gt5 are old plastic ones that have glazed over and need to be cleaned.

Also, I hate how the brightness changes to where you want it every time you switch views, and then quickly gets way too dark.
 

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