Nissan GTR Nosebag

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Is it just me, or is this car just the current model with some strategic black paint? The original prototype had a completely different back & roof.

Does anyone know why the GTR with the nosebag is worth more than the spec V?
 
Is it just me, or is this car just the current model with some strategic black paint? The original prototype had a completely different back & roof.

Does anyone know why the GTR with the nosebag is worth more than the spec V?

It's call GTR Black Mask and it's one of the pre-production test model. It's special because this was the car Toshio Suzuki (Nissan test driver) used to first beat the Porsche 911 Turbo Nurburgring time.

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It's the testing version of the car. It has black tape in strategic places to hide some design ques from the press prior to the cars initial release. It was in GT5 Prologue before the car was released and changed to a normal GTR afterwards. In GT5 it has slightly more power than a standard GTR but isn't really worth the price difference.
 
From the still of that video (goal) it appears the start/finish is in a different place. Do you think this might affect the lap time?
 
But the V-Spec is the best version to buy in gt5? I'm asking beacuse I'm going to do the Japanise championchip under the Extreme section. I think it's under the Extreme, if it's the second highest.
 
From the still of that video (goal) it appears the start/finish is in a different place. Do you think this might affect the lap time?

If you look and study all the different videos, you'll find that almost all the times recorded on the Nordschleife, the finish line (or stop clock) is different from the start line. Here's good explanation as to why:

Track lengths and timing

Not all of the following lap times are comparable. A full lap of the Nordschleife, bypassing the modern GP track, is 20.832 km (12.944 mi) long. Most laps are completed 200 metres (656 ft) shorter for safety reasons. Full uninterrupted flying laps can only be done in closed sessions and race events like Castrol-Haugg-Cup.

During the industry testing sessions in which sport auto records its "Supertest", the track can not be traveled at full speed past "Tribüne 13" (T13, grandstand 13) in order to allow safe access from the old exit/entrance there. Thus, sport auto Supertests cover only about 20.6 km (12.8 mi), which in average yields a 7 s shorter lap time compared to a full lap.

There are 5 sections on the 20,600 m (68,000 ft) long Supertest-Nordschleife:

* The first is 3,850 m (2.4 mi)
* The second is 4,235 m (2.6 mi)
* The third is 4,825 m (3.0 mi)
* The fourth is 4,846 m (3.0 mi)
* The fifth is 2,844 m (1.8 mi)
* The total is 20,600 m (12.800 mi)

Some lap times are even claimed to have been done during tourist driving sessions. Because it is forbidden to race on tourist days as it is very dangerous to drive fast among the general traffic one should not try to measure the lap time on a tourist day. As the full main straight cannot be driven at speed due to the modern exit/entrance there, these laps are usually timed "bridge to gantry", which is only 19.1 km (11.9 mi) and thus about 30 seconds shorter. Additionally, there are two speed limits (one in Breitscheid, and one on "Doettinger Hoehe") on tourist days, which also impacts the lap time.
 
From the still of that video (goal) it appears the start/finish is in a different place. Do you think this might affect the lap time?

Nope, it's a rolling start. Won't make a difference at all if they start at the Karussell.
 
But the V-Spec is the best version to buy in gt5? I'm asking beacuse I'm going to do the Japanise championchip under the Extreme section. I think it's under the Extreme, if it's the second highest.

use a Super GT car, or the X1 if you have one, it's origin is of Japan
 
If you look and study all the different videos, you'll find that almost all the times recorded on the Nordschleife, the finish line (or stop clock) is different from the start line. Here's good explanation as to why:

Track lengths and timing

Not all of the following lap times are comparable. A full lap of the Nordschleife, bypassing the modern GP track, is 20.832 km (12.944 mi) long. Most laps are completed 200 metres (656 ft) shorter for safety reasons. Full uninterrupted flying laps can only be done in closed sessions and race events like Castrol-Haugg-Cup.

During the industry testing sessions in which sport auto records its "Supertest", the track can not be traveled at full speed past "Tribüne 13" (T13, grandstand 13) in order to allow safe access from the old exit/entrance there. Thus, sport auto Supertests cover only about 20.6 km (12.8 mi), which in average yields a 7 s shorter lap time compared to a full lap.

There are 5 sections on the 20,600 m (68,000 ft) long Supertest-Nordschleife:

* The first is 3,850 m (2.4 mi)
* The second is 4,235 m (2.6 mi)
* The third is 4,825 m (3.0 mi)
* The fourth is 4,846 m (3.0 mi)
* The fifth is 2,844 m (1.8 mi)
* The total is 20,600 m (12.800 mi)

Some lap times are even claimed to have been done during tourist driving sessions. Because it is forbidden to race on tourist days as it is very dangerous to drive fast among the general traffic one should not try to measure the lap time on a tourist day. As the full main straight cannot be driven at speed due to the modern exit/entrance there, these laps are usually timed "bridge to gantry", which is only 19.1 km (11.9 mi) and thus about 30 seconds shorter. Additionally, there are two speed limits (one in Breitscheid, and one on "Doettinger Hoehe") on tourist days, which also impacts the lap time.

Wait, so the trophy in GT5 is harder than it appears? You have to go 7 seconds faster than the real time in order to get the trophy.
 
But the V-Spec is the best version to buy in gt5? I'm asking beacuse I'm going to do the Japanise championchip under the Extreme section. I think it's under the Extreme, if it's the second highest.

I won it with my RM'ed Honda Civic 97 EK lol. No Skyline needed.

Well got respect for the R35 with beating some crazy records, but c'mon, this car wasn't needed in GT5.

Edit : Please dont think I hate Nissan skyline, I got over 30 of them in my garage and I love the R34 the most ( got 6 R34 GTR ). The R35 looks like the Stigs american cousin, but it is a great car too.
 
Well got respect for the R35 with beating some crazy records, but c'mon, this car wasn't needed in GT5.

Black Mask was in GT5P demo before the production GTR was even unveiled, it isn't something they added later.
 
The GTR black Mask (bra & undies) version is no where near as good as the GTR V spec. I was to use it in a series race (limited HP and weight) and couldn't get good times with it in practice, had to go buy the V spec and instant improvement in lap times.
 
I was there that day when they drove the record with the prototype GT-R (was watching some classic cars like E-Type Jags, old Lotuses etc during the ADAC Classic), but left earlier because they closed the track for viewers at the entry (right at the Döttinger Höhe, long straight where the restaurant is) and I didn't know they were trying to run a record.


But I saw three prototype GT-R, an Infiniti G35 (maybe a Skyline V35, not sure because I was focused on the GT-Rs) and a Porsche Turbo leaving the Industriepark complex which is just next to the Nordschleife.

So I drove like a maniac down to the complex exit and managed to make these shots


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Last year I had the chance to take pictures from a crisp looking SpecV in the Nissan Showroom next to the Grand Prix circuit.

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and its called SpecV like a Sentra. VSpec is for Nissan Skyline like the VSpec II Midnight Purple GTR of a friend of mine.

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And a GT-R is not a Skyline because they have the word "Skyline" imprinted on their trunk lids.....a actual GT-R doesn't (of course its for other reasons, but this one is the simplest to understand lol)


Nosebag GT-Rs are not so good as the actual builds, I just say launch control for exampel
 
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