I was made aware of and tried racing without ABS for a while. Zero ABS and 2/1 balance, 1/1, 1/2, 2/2. It's fine in most cars if you're in A-spec or Practice; but it DEFINITELY doesn't work online. Most vehicles ABS is now 1 with anywhere from 6/8 to 7/10 balance. I'm feeling from driving that some vehicles even need higher ABS online. You getting the same thing?
Sure it 'works' online. But there's one problem. As a host, one can not select a No-ABS option in the lobby, like one can with TCS or Skid Recovery, etc. I wish there was such an option because this way, it would at least level the playing field. And as Exorcet pointed out, even the quickest drivers, all things being equal, are generally a bit slower without ABS. So it's only fair if the field is level.
I would never consider taking ABS off a car that has it in reality.
Unless it was for a series that didn't allow it, but without proper feedback I don't care to try to learn driving without ABS.
Well, I generally keep ABS at 1 for road cars that use ABS by nature. And it's true, you don't have the same level of feedback like in a real car. But one could make that argument run in circles for anything. 90* turns are tough in simulations because you don't have centrifugal forces on your body. Same thing with loss of lateral grip. But that doesn't stop us from driving through corners. But there are other reasons. Read on.
No ABS online is doable, even with a controller.
👍 Yes it is. And people I race with on-line manage it as well.
2/2? 1/2? 6/8?? 7/10??????
No No No you need more braking in the front than in the rear. Try 4/1.
Yes, indeed.
Just started with no ABS today...and I feel it's lengthening my braking distance and lap times overall, posted laptimes in the 'are my laptimes good' thread so no point putting them here.
Very true.
I haven't done a single race online or offline with abs, and usually keep my brake balance at 3/3 or 4/4...never had any real problems except the occasional lockup. Just can't mash the brake pedal down every corner and expect the car to turn.
Ahh, now we're getting to the heart of the matter. I've said this before in another thread. ABS, at least in this game, does more than just slow the car down. It acts as a form of stability control under [heavy] braking. And indeed, a lot of GT players simply put ABS at 1 and smash the brake pedal (or button) to the floor at every corner they approach. If one would attempt to drive like this in a real car at a real track, you'd likely go shooting through the braking zone at full lock up, or end up spinning around, flying off the course. And that is EXACTLY what happens if you turn ABS OFF in GT5. It adds an element of realism to the game and makes it that much more challenging, and in my view, fun. When ABS is off, it forces you to rethink all of your braking points. It makes you reconsider your lines into certain corners. And you have to manage balance and weight transfer that you may have never considered when ABS was turned on. You can't just make banzai moves on another car.
Most race prepped cars don't have abs...but I race with it set to 1 on all my cars for online racing. I've never bothered to try racing online with it off but considering I'm a light braker to begin with it might be possible...however you'll likely never be able to out-brake someone into a turn without locking them up.
That's not necessarily true either. In my group, there is certainly out-braking going on. Sometimes with a bit of lockup, sometimes not. But it's more like what you'd see in a real race.
Yes, no ABS just leads to trouble in my opinion. It can be extremely hard to control, and, what's the actual point?
Yes. And see above.
The point is some people think that because it's harder it makes them better than the rest of noob mortals that use ABS. Some also use realism as an argument, because they think that harder equals more real.
But it really is pointless driving ABS-free without proper feedback, and even more pointless doing so in cars that DO have an ABS system in real life.
OK, so maybe I'm a snob. But I could also sit here and say,
"The point is some people think that because it's harder it makes them better than the rest of noob mortals that use Skid Recovery and ALL other aids turned up full."
Although this is not a very good example to highlight it, have a look at this video. In my events, we have a gentlemen's agreement not to use ABS. And it's really made a marked difference to the racing. As your tires wear out, it becomes MUCH easier to lock up, resulting in even MORE tire wear. It's a challenge. It would never work in public lobbies as many of them are a free for all to begin with. And the exaggerated slipstream in this game, makes forgoing ABS that much more difficult because your braking points are always changing.
But this is proof that it CAN be done:
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