no wheels.. just controllers...

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In defense of gaming wheel and home-built cockpit fans...

1: Sure, it may be a game, but the wheel gives us something more to enjoy out of it. I wish I could go to a local track and drift an RX-7, but I can't. A, there's no local track here, and B, I don't have the money to hook up or even BUY an RX-7 in reality. The wheel/cockpit helps me realize this little pipe-dream.

2: It isn't all that expensive, if you know what you're doing. eBay is a great place to get a DFP - I've seen them go for as low as $35 USD. Cockpits are also fairly cheap/simple to make - especially if you have the knowledge to do so. This thread is an excellent example of just that. It's a hobby, like building a table and chair set for your kitchen. It makes a fun weekend project. I see no difference.

So please, if you're going to opt for the DS2, use better wording than "waste of money". Call me crazy, but potentially paying only $15 more than a standard DS2 for a wheel that offers 900 degree turning capability seems like a pretty worthwhile investment to me.

Oh, and in the spirit of good ol' childish name-calling...

No, YOU look like a dork.
 
It DSII for me. It rough for me to drift , but this game is also hard to drift. Hopefully, I will be able to drift as many other player on here. :dopey: Beside that I just want to post something on these forum and be active :yuck: 💡 👍
 
Too Poor To Buy a DFP
Drifting on the DS2 is kinda fun... imagine drifting at an insane angle and countersteer to max :P
 
okay, spent a few shillings today (parents gifted me a few 👍 ), and bought the DFP. Probably not a wise decision financially, since i fall into the non-working poor student column like some of the rest of you, but my curiosity and lack of restraint got the better of me on this day.

so, got back, ripped it open, gave the bubble wrap to my girlfriend to keep her occupied for a few hours, and tried my hand at drifting with it

impression at the end of day one:
AAAGH!
back to square one, I feel like I'm a complete noob and have to relearn almost everything

I spent upwards of 8hours today sitting behind that thing (much to my girlfirend's delight :indiff:, oh well), and I've yet to manage a decent looking drift from start to finish. It's the finish that really throws me for a loop, gotta be so quick with the hands as weight shifts back to center. I sympathize far more with some of the members expressing their frustrations related to drifting after this experience.

Obviously, some period for adjustment and learning is necessary, and I knew this from the start, though I did not expect the difference to be so massive. Despite that, I will continue to practice with it - the videos from BreakerOhio and Mike with their DFP's have compelled me to do so.

My thinking at this time is that I might stick to drifting with the DS2 for the short term. Ill hold onto the DFP for racing since it does feel quite comfortable when i use it for that. With some time I'm sure that drifting on the DFP will come to feel more natural as well.
 
At MRP, we use dual shocks, I (myougi) use Dual Shock 1 from the PSOne since all my DS2 are broken for some reason. AZN_RACER_01 uses Dual Shock 2.
 
Wheel: For racing it provides a fun and relaxing alternative to the controller. The wheel and shifter with a cockpit (if you make one) is almost as relaxing as the real thing and when you go off the track you don’t hit any trees and break anything! The Wheel offers two modes 200° and 900°. The 200° mode provides you with intense steering sensitivity, while the 900° mode provides a more and almost exact replication of driving in the "real" world.

Great for girl friends! But watch out they don’t want to let you use it because they never leave it!

Grip racing: 1-10 I give it a 8.5 (I can drive harder with a controller)

Grip driving: 1-10 I give it a 10.0 (Just fun and is extremely relaxing)

Drifting: 1-10 I give it a 3 (extremely hard to use, real life the wheel tends to recenter its self - during a slide in real life the wheel also will stay straight with the momentum of the car.)

Controller: Just the easiest interface any user can use. Clear an easy to use no surprises here. The controller will not spin out of your grip like the DFP. 👍 As far as thumb pain I give it a negative score on some days my thumb presses though the (x) button. For over all ability to control the car it is by far the simplest and easiest to use for drifting.

Grip racing: 1-10 I give it a 9 (pain from fingers)

Grip driving: 1-10 I give it a 3 (No FUN!)

Drifting: 1-10 I give it a 8.5 (Easy to use just the sensitivity is not there. The throttle can some times be presses to hard or not enough)
 
I use DS2. I never tried the DFP yet, but I'm pretty sure one's not better than the other. Its just a matter of getting use to. Seems like the majority is having a hard time with drifting using DFP. I think there's just more to learn, but gives you more control.
 
I master the controller, my friends are suprised how well i have learned how to use the presurrre system on the dpad and bottons, i dont use the analog sticks how ever
 
Anyone using the d-pad on the DS2 for drifting? I have to cause my left analog is just totally f-ed up. (the ds2 is like almost 4 years old). Don't feel like buying a new one cause i'm saving up the $ for a DFP.
 
antisport
the wheel is no secret to drifting though dont confuse yourself..
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That's the best adise you've ever given.

For the members that are using the Dpad, I would recommend that you use the left analog stick. I know that the dpad is analog, but in the time it takes you to learn how to be sensitive with it, you could've become a great drifter with the left analog stick. Anyway, just a suggestion.
 
Usually when i drift with the ds2, i use both analog sticks for more control. But now i use the dfp, in which it is very hard to drift. But I must say that drifting with the dfp on 900 degrees is much more satisfying than drifting on the controller.
 
antisport
the wheel is no secret to drifting though dont confuse yourself..
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yeah, i know, but i like to RACE, and occasionaly drift.

Plus, 5 years with a wheel for PC, the DS2 knda feels strange.
 
when i started off drifting with the right analog stick, but then i switch back to the x-button it allowed me to control the gas alot better. when i am going to get my job this summer, i will be definetly getting wheel, but that is along way from now.
 
Hey I'm also usin the DS2 controller. I've just started to drift..well more like learning how too, by practicing and all that. I know some people use the analog sticks to steer and such, but any body that still uses the d-pad? I use the d-pad still, i dont use the analog sticks because there just hard for me to use, i'd rather press a butoon.

If anyone does use the d-pad still, I'd like some advise.

I use the feint technique a lot nowa dn usually just add gas and countersteer and such, now I've gotten pretty good, now just that. I feel like I'm going to have a lot of trouble linking drifts with the d-pad. When i do countersteer, i usually just tap the d-pad butoons and i can hold a drift pretty well. But when I try to link i get the whiplash effect, (car jus snaps back in the direction i'm countersteering). Any advice on how i can link the drifts using the d-pad? I'm assuming I need to press the buttons softer....

-Thanks

Also I'm practicing on sukuba wet...
 
D-pad all the way, bebi :)

I'm WAY more precise with that now than with the sticks, the response feels quicker to me too. But then again, I could never use the sticks... I'm so used to the pad now, been using it for every game I have (and some of those are not even registering different levels of pressure). The only thing that gets a little tricky is controlling high power MR cars through hi speed corners, especially if it's bumpy :P
 
Ske
D-pad all the way, bebi :)

I'm WAY more precise with that now than with the sticks, the response feels quicker to me too. But then again, I could never use the sticks... I'm so used to the pad now, been using it for every game I have (and some of those are not even registering different levels of pressure). The only thing that gets a little tricky is controlling high power MR cars through hi speed corners, especially if it's bumpy :P
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I could never use the sticks either, I Always use the d-pad unless there's a game that forces me too (Grand Theft Auto: SA), but i never use it in driving games.

-thanks
 
i own a DFP but i dont use it for drift, just for racing, since i am very much used to drifting with a DS2 from gt3 so i just kinda switched games.
 
BHayes_S13Coupe
I use the feint technique a lot nowa dn usually just add gas and countersteer and such, now I've gotten pretty good, now just that. I feel like I'm going to have a lot of trouble linking drifts with the d-pad. When i do countersteer, i usually just tap the d-pad butoons and i can hold a drift pretty well. But when I try to link i get the whiplash effect, (car jus snaps back in the direction i'm countersteering). Any advice on how i can link the drifts using the d-pad? I'm assuming I need to press the buttons softer....
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I think you gotta lower the angle and ease up on the throttle slightly before the link (at least that seems to work for me). Lifting the throttle to about 50% seems to make the car listen a bit more when you try to change the direction. The 'snap back' can also feel pretty delayed, so I guess you gotta learn how much countersteer the car will take before slapping you in the face :scared:

When the car is about to switch ends, go easy on the throttle (not full off, or the back will lift too much) until you feel you're in control again (should only take a split second).

I guess it's crucial that you find out how much input will make your car snap, and how much/how fast. If you manage to "catch" it mid-snap you're pretty much set.

(I'm not a seasoned drifter but I'm also using the pad, and I've been messing with the same scenario as you lately.. and I feel like I'm getting the hang of it decently now. I'm sorry if my explanation is awkward and uses the wrong terms though :dopey: )
 
MRP
At MRP, we use dual shocks, I (myougi) use Dual Shock 1 from the PSOne since all my DS2 are broken for some reason. AZN_RACER_01 uses Dual Shock 2.
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HERE HERE long live the DS1...Like you I find the DS2 controllers stuffed...the analog sticks feel much harder to push rather than the DSs1 controllers.

Thats just my 2 cents....as for everyone whos uppity about the sensitivity its a good idea to start getting in some practice with the analog sticks...less of a finger pain factor and you have a greater control over the steering over the D-pad.
 
i find it being much faster to just move the stick left-right with my thumb than to move it all over the place to steer....

as for the right stick... tried, but it seems easier to do just using the buttons as they are push-sensitive as well.
 
This is the way I see it. I may use the DS2, but would rather use the DFP. I may have been gaming for many years, but when it comes to driving I'd want it to feel more like I was driving my own car. Some of the older members with several years on the road should agree with me. The differences between the wheel and the controler are too great. Use what you are acustomed to. If you have a higher ratio of gaming to real time driving under your belt, save the money use the controller(if you have wads of cash screw it get the wheel and try it out). For me if I didn't have to raise a family I'd have the wheel(and a real drifter).
 

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