NOOB drift car

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

ok so i was having trouble drifting in this game (using the logitech driving force GT wheel) and i've read as much as i can on here tried different setups and practice practice and it never really helped all that much. i was doing some of the races on the higher tiers using my 2002 RX-7 (around 600hp) and it was so easy, so here is the setup of my RX-7 for other people having trouble (also it's just a great car to have).

-do ALL the upgrades (best of the best)

-tires-racing soft

-lower it as far as you can


and that is it, you now have a insanely fast RX-7 that is pretty damn easy to drift.

 

[StangBanger302]

Racing soft tires to drift with? I've never seen an efficient setup with those tires. The grip level on them are so high that they snap back mid-corner.

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

Racing soft tires to drift with? I've never seen an efficient setup with those tires. The grip level on them are so high that they snap back mid-corner.

i thought the same thing, but when i was racing i was so far ahead i just started messing around and i was drifting like it was nothing (under control).

you get the best of both worlds. a track car that has plenty of grip and a drift car that is easy to handle, the back end only kicks out if you really want it to.

 

[rileyra]

Can you drift more than one lap on that track before changing tires?

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

i don't know when tire wear takes place but i'm at 23. the tires were fine by the end of the race (also i wasn't drifting every corner, it was a 10 lap race)

 

[Mercenary_Wez]

I have a couple of cars that I drift with Racing Soft. They do wear out quickly though.

 

[Tuzmyfuz80]

Driving Formula D style i see. Well bear in mind that D1GP is the premiere drifting league right now currently so someday you will have to use Comfort tyres.

Nothing bad intended in my comment

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

Driving Formula D style i see. Well bear in mind that D1GP is the premiere drifting league right now currently so someday you will have to use Comfort tyres.

Nothing bad intended in my comment

non taken. i haven't done any competition yet in drift, just doing it for fun right now.

 

[Warren4649]

You chosen the bad photo however to show your racing soft drifting. Theres almost no counter steer. And reading the description of your tuning it looks like what any noob will do, throwing all the parts they can on the car and think they have the best drift car. I'd like to see a video of your car drifting on Grand Valley (the track of your pic).

By drifting I mean linking corners, doing a lot of smoke and having angle.

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

You chosen the bad photo however to show your racing soft drifting. Theres almost no counter steer. And reading the description of your tuning it looks like what any noob will do, throwing all the parts they can on the car and think they have the best drift car. I'd like to see a video of your car drifting on Grand Valley (the track of your pic).

By drifting I mean linking corners, doing a lot of smoke and having angle.

i didn't do all that work for a drift car, i wanted a fast car but it turned out to be a good drift car.

for the counter steer, i was at the end trying to straighten up. this photo was taken from a 10 lap race and it was near the end and i really wasn't going to watch it all over again. I thought we would be able to rewind replays sometime? anybody know.

as for linking corners together i'm still not that good but this is the best car i've come across for drifting

 

[Warren4649]

You wont link with racing soft btw.

And sadly we can't rewind (yet, but Yamauchi talked about putting it in an update), we can only go to the beginning of the replay.

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

You wont link with racing soft btw.

And sadly we can't rewind (yet, but Yamauchi talked about putting it in an update), we can only go to the beginning of the replay.

prob not, but i built the car for racing and it works good to drift around corners. i agree i prob won't be able to, so it's not a pure drift setup.

it's just a good all around car that you can drift damn good around a corner

 

[TakeshiSkunk]

All upgrades and lower it as far as possible then put on the best tires...That's...not something I'd call tuning, racing or otherwise.

I mean I guess the game is a game in the end so it's about having fun and that's all good and fine, but this..isn't really something worth showing off. Using suspension settings like they're an on-off switch kind of just shows you don't really understand how they work (though I'll admit, I used to do that with most of my cars way back when before I learned more about what all the settings actually do). At least you haven't maxed out your camber or toe settings. I'm going to guess you're not really using much in the way of braking techniques to initiate, because with your suspension slammed it's going to be really difficult to transfer weight effectively.

As for the photo, I actually gotta stick up for you a little. I personally think a zero counter drift with a big angle on the racing line is pretty much the perfect drift. It means you've initiated very precisely and have excellent throttle control. Now I can see that in this pic you're reducing counter to come out of the drift, rather than just holding zero counter all the way through, but I just wanted to let you know that zero-counter is definitely not a bad thing.

I can see you have an understanding of exiting and avoiding snap oversteer to some extent, my suggestion would be that you work on learning to drift proper. I think you'll have a lot of fun, you probably just need to get a better feel for weight transfer. I would suggest buying another RX7, leaving it totally stock except for maybe an LSD (try without for a while first so you can understand the benefit better) and oil change, putting comfort softs on it and working on Autumn Ring Mini. You're probably not as far off as you think, and your trouble may stem from trying to learn the basics on tuned cars and with other peoples setups. All the good drifters here learned on stock or very mildly tuned cars

 

[revsx]

I have a fully upgraded Spirit R also. I use sports:hard or comfort:soft depending on the track.

 

[Goracle]

If you can link and tandem with Racing Softs... 👍

Driving Formula D style i see. Well bear in mind that D1GP is the premiere drifting league right now currently, AND FOREVER WILL BE, so someday you will have to use Comfort tyres.

 

[RufusGonePunk]

Driving Formula D style i see. Well bear in mind that D1GP is the premiere drifting league right now currently (but may not exist next season) so someday you will have to use Comfort tyres.

Nothing bad intended in my comment

Fixed properly Haha.

I can see you have an understanding of exiting and avoiding snap oversteer to some extent, my suggestion would be that you work on learning to drift proper. I think you'll have a lot of fun, you probably just need to get a better feel for weight transfer. I would suggest buying another RX7, leaving it totally stock except for maybe an LSD (try without for a while first so you can understand the benefit better) and oil change, putting comfort softs on it and working on Autumn Ring Mini. You're probably not as far off as you think, and your trouble may stem from trying to learn the basics on tuned cars and with other peoples setups. All the good drifters here learned on stock or very mildly tuned cars

This. There is a reason people start learning to drift in low powered cars with Comfort Hards. It sounds to me as though you found drifting by accident though, pushing to hard in the race and oversteering, not dissimilar to how drifting started all those years ago. However, as Takeshi said, if you really want to take your drifting to the next level, start from the bottom. Yeah, you'll probably spin out on the first few corners you try, but at the end you'll be a far superior drifter and driver. That's if you even want to advance your drifting. Afterall, it's your game to have what ever fun you wish with

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

All upgrades and lower it as far as possible then put on the best tires...That's...not something I'd call tuning, racing or otherwise.

I mean I guess the game is a game in the end so it's about having fun and that's all good and fine, but this..isn't really something worth showing off. Using suspension settings like they're an on-off switch kind of just shows you don't really understand how they work (though I'll admit, I used to do that with most of my cars way back when before I learned more about what all the settings actually do). At least you haven't maxed out your camber or toe settings. I'm going to guess you're not really using much in the way of braking techniques to initiate, because with your suspension slammed it's going to be really difficult to transfer weight effectively.

As for the photo, I actually gotta stick up for you a little. I personally think a zero counter drift with a big angle on the racing line is pretty much the perfect drift. It means you've initiated very precisely and have excellent throttle control. Now I can see that in this pic you're reducing counter to come out of the drift, rather than just holding zero counter all the way through, but I just wanted to let you know that zero-counter is definitely not a bad thing.

I can see you have an understanding of exiting and avoiding snap oversteer to some extent, my suggestion would be that you work on learning to drift proper. I think you'll have a lot of fun, you probably just need to get a better feel for weight transfer. I would suggest buying another RX7, leaving it totally stock except for maybe an LSD (try without for a while first so you can understand the benefit better) and oil change, putting comfort softs on it and working on Autumn Ring Mini. You're probably not as far off as you think, and your trouble may stem from trying to learn the basics on tuned cars and with other peoples setups. All the good drifters here learned on stock or very mildly tuned cars

This. There is a reason people start learning to drift in low powered cars with Comfort Hards. It sounds to me as though you found drifting by accident though, pushing to hard in the race and oversteering, not dissimilar to how drifting started all those years ago. However, as Takeshi said, if you really want to take your drifting to the next level, start from the bottom. Yeah, you'll probably spin out on the first few corners you try, but at the end you'll be a far superior drifter and driver. That's if you even want to advance your drifting. Afterall, it's your game to have what ever fun you wish with

thanks for the input and i will try a stock rx7.

i do under stand the physics of cars tho because i work on my cars and motorcycle. i just really loved the look of a slammed car , but you are right slamming a drifting car prob isn't the best thing to do but i built this car for racing i just happened to find out it's good at drifting. i've been messing around with a fairlady and i kinda suck at drifting that thing.lol

 

[RufusGonePunk]

thanks for the input and i will try a stock rx7.

i do under stand the physics of cars tho because i work on my cars and motorcycle. i just really loved the look of a slammed car , but you are right slamming a drifting car prob isn't the best thing to do but i built this car for racing i just happened to find out it's good at drifting. i've been messing around with a fairlady and i kinda suck at drifting that thing.lol

I'm pretty sure it's impossible to ruin a cars setup by slamming it. It's not like people are doing mad 100mm drops because the game won't let you. I'm not sure how much you can drop the RX7 in game, but it probably won't be anything like what you could do in real life. Also, just because a car is slammed, doesn't mean it's compromised it's geometry. There's some pretty trick stuff going on underneath some drift cars.

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

I'm pretty sure it's impossible to ruin a cars setup by slamming it. It's not like people are doing mad 100mm drops because the game won't let you. I'm not sure how much you can drop the RX7 in game, but it probably won't be anything like what you could do in real life. Also, just because a car is slammed, doesn't mean it's compromised it's geometry. There's some pretty trick stuff going on underneath some drift cars.

good point. I forget how far I was able to drop the RX-7, I'll check tomorrow

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

Yea drifting with the controller is so much more easier then using the wheel. Im going to have to practice more with the wheel.

 

[ParksidE001]

In context to the original post...

I'm learning to drift,don't find it easy but only had a G27 for 2 weeks. I've practiced a fair bit (hours and hours), followed advice on tunes, cars etc...

Out of my several 'drift cars' the S13 is probably the one that I can 'get on with' the most. BUT... The easiest car I've found to learn in now, is one that I won ages ago in the British Lightweight comp'; The Caterham fireblade '02.

It needed a supercharger fitted to compensate for it's massive lack of revs in low and mid gear but it's so controllable it's crazy. You have to rag it around the track to keep up speed but once there...

If you struggle with a wheel and wish to learn the basic mechanics of how a drift should feel, this car is like riding a bike with stabilisers. I won't use it much for anything but it really helped. The next time I decide to use one of my 'drift set ups' I noticed an improvement immediately.

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

nice! I want a caterham anyway..lol, to bad they don't have the ariel atom in the game.

 

[Boab]

If it works for you, good stuff, keep it up. However, I run mine a little differently.

Tuning: As follows.
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Body/Chassis

- Chassis Weight Reduction: Stage 3

Engine

- Computer: Sports ECU
- Engine Tuning: Stage 2

Turbo Kits

- Turbochargers: High RPM Range Turbo Kit

Transmission

- Transmission: 5 Speed Close-Ratio Transmission

Drivetrain

- Clutch: Twin-Plate
- Flywheel: Semi-Racing
- Propeller Shaft: Carbon Propeller Shaft

Tyres

- Comfort Tyres: Hard

~

Driving Options: As follows.
----------------------------

Drift Type: Full Lap Drift
Transmission: Manual (MT)
Front Tyres: Comfort: Hard
Rear Tyres: Comfort: Hard
Driving Line: On
Traction Control: Off
Skid Recovery Force: Off
Active Steering: Off
Active Stability Management (ASM): Off
ABS: 1

~

Settings: Default, unless stated.
---------------------------------

Suspension

- Ride Height Adjustment (mm): -20 Front and Rear

Wheel Alignment

- Camber Angle (-): 0.2 Front
- Toe Angle: -0.2 Rear

 

[Renrag39]

My fave drift car atm is the Jaaaaaaag E-Type (stock with comfort softs). Never really got the hang of drifting in the previous GT's but really got to grips with it in GT-5.
First decent drift car I found was the S14 Q's (NA). Got me hooked.
Then found the Jaaaag. I got quite good and remains my fave.
Just started using the TVR Tuscan. Again, stock (only tuned the S14 so far).
I think my next step is to experiment with tuning.
Not a great drifter but managed to get in top 800 (atm) on autumn ring seasonal event with the Tuscan (pure luck I reckon), so I think I'm slowly getting there.
Would recommend any FR car with some weight to it like Jags, mercs, BMW's, TVR's,etc. Found most Japanese cars too flighty for learning but excellent once you get the hang of the European cars. Heavier cars really help you understand how a car moves itself around at different parts of the drift and teaches you to predict its behaviour and pre-empt corrections. However, I've not yet found an American car that lends itself to drifting stock yet. Any recommendations for a beginner?

Renrag

 

[Tardnuk]

I've drifted a few time with Live for Speed on PC with DFGT and I have set up the wheel for 720°. Now, in GT5 the wheel has 900° and no option to set up less. I was not good and in GT5 I'm even worse because of more rotation of the wheel.

But from American cars I like Race Modded Camaro '69. Mine has around 360bhp and I think it is also good for the beginning.

I also have BMW M3 '07 with all upgrades (~550bhp) but this is very powerful & lightweight for me.

 

[OLDSKOOLACURA]

My fave drift car atm is the Jaaaaaaag E-Type (stock with comfort softs). Never really got the hang of drifting in the previous GT's but really got to grips with it in GT-5.
First decent drift car I found was the S14 Q's (NA). Got me hooked.
Then found the Jaaaag. I got quite good and remains my fave.
Just started using the TVR Tuscan. Again, stock (only tuned the S14 so far).
I think my next step is to experiment with tuning.
Not a great drifter but managed to get in top 800 (atm) on autumn ring seasonal event with the Tuscan (pure luck I reckon), so I think I'm slowly getting there.
Would recommend any FR car with some weight to it like Jags, mercs, BMW's, TVR's,etc. Found most Japanese cars too flighty for learning but excellent once you get the hang of the European cars. Heavier cars really help you understand how a car moves itself around at different parts of the drift and teaches you to predict its behaviour and pre-empt corrections. However, I've not yet found an American car that lends itself to drifting stock yet. Any recommendations for a beginner?

Renrag

I've drifted a few time with Live for Speed on PC with DFGT and I have set up the wheel for 720°. Now, in GT5 the wheel has 900° and no option to set up less. I was not good and in GT5 I'm even worse because of more rotation of the wheel.

But from American cars I like Race Modded Camaro '69. Mine has around 360bhp and I think it is also good for the beginning.

I also have BMW M3 '07 with all upgrades (~550bhp) but this is very powerful & lightweight for me.

I agree the heavier cars seem to help for beginners and I have a fully modded 69 camaro and tho I haven't tried drifting in practice I have done some really nice drifts and power slides in a race with it. I just can't for the life of me drift with this wheel, I will get a nice drift here and there but to do a real long drift and link corners with the wheel I can't do it. Now when I want to drift i'll use my DS3 (still practicing with the wheel tho).

 

[rabi3]

Hi OLDSKOOLACURA, I had same troubles with my RX-7 at the beginning to. You need to find another car, keep the RX-7 for later, when you pass the beginner level.

600 BHP is too much man. start with the sprinter trueno shigeno ver. or the bmw 2002 or any car with HP around 200 or 250.

i personally recommend the sprinter, its a drifting machine. PM if you want one.

....and use comfort hard tires.

 

[ParksidE001]

I have to now agree with the above post.

I'd been waiting for a Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (SS version) to show up for ages, in the UCD. I finally got one two nights ago and played with it stock.

What a great car to learn in. It truly holds you by the hand, such is it's feedback. I'm still not getting the angle I want & so not enough smoke is pouring from the tires but I'm controlling this car much better, than I've controlled other vehicles in a drift when I first 'step in to it'.

All of my 'super drift cars' RM'd S15, Blitz Skyline D1 and AEM S2000 can wait their turn! The SS is such a blast to drive. Left me with a big grin on my face

 

[doozle]

Mercedes 190E, minor modifications (~250hp) otherwise stock.

Drifts like a beauty.