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Anyone want to lay down their times around the ring in different cars? I'm on a PS3 with the six axis controller. No handling assists, no damage, best line.

Works
5:52.951 A2184 Bugatti Veyron
6:00.928 A2354 Gumpert Apollo
6:09.034 A2263 McLaren F1
6:12.105 A2104 Porsche 918 Spyder
6:13.306 A2176 Pagani Huayra
6:18.809 A2124 Porsche Carrera GT
6:25.683 A2089 Lexus LFA
6:33.825 A1968 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
6:37.696 A2059 Porsche 911 GT2

A Class
6:22.048 A1950 Pagani Zonda R
6:25.017 A1820 Radical SR3-RS (full upgrades)
6:28.555 A1660 Nissan GT-R (R35) SpecV JCW Edition

GT1
6:32.726 A1810 Maserti MC12 GT1

GT2
6:56.583 A1520 Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
6:58.284 A1530 BMW M3 GT ALMS

GT3
6:53.512 A1590 BMW Z4 GT3
6:54.850 A1590 Porsche 911 GT3 Cup R

B Class
6:30.757 B1498 Nissan GT-R (R35)
7:06.992 B1270 Ford Mustang RTR-X

C Class
6:59.518 C999 Shelby Cobra
7:18.670 C999 Mazda RX-7 (FC3S)

D Class
9:00.873 D160 240SX (S13) Drift Alliance

I'm trying to catch the US record which stands at 5:49.9. We'll see.

This thread is a repost of one from No Grip that's not getting a lot of attention. Hopefully you guys will be into putting up your times.
 
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Kool my kinda thread, love this track. Me and thiago are just working through each class for fastest laps, am just on c class at the mo, so when am done will get the vids up:tup:
 
7:08.329 B1270 Mustang RTR-X

Not the quickest one out there :)
I'll see what I can do with the GT1 C6.R
 
I have a bit of a conundrum. Should I try to improve my fast laps or put up more laps in more cars? Both take a lot of time. I lowered my Veyron time but I don't think I'll update the post until I get the real number.

The waffling is driving me crazy. I think I'll run a few laps in the works MP4-12C and fully upgraded Radical SR3-RS this weekend. I also have the terrible LFA.
 
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PS3, G27, ELITE, NO AIDS
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D class (499)
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C class (999)
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B class (1499)
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A class (2354)
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GT3
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GT1
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Career, Modern A Invitational MP4-12C
 
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freak insane laps m8...

D Class

Retro


Modern


Legends


C CLASS

Retro


Muscle


Legends


Modern


B CLASS

Modern


Legends


MUSCLE


RETRO


GT3


GTI


A CLASS

Personal Best


Modern


Retro


MUSCLE


Legends


STOCK


 
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Well i think there will be a few doing battle over fastest A, B, C and D here. So here's mine to kick us off, after that GT1 and GT3 would be good
 
jiannone
I have a bit of a conundrum. Should I try to improve my fast laps or put up more laps in more cars? Both take a lot of time. I lowered my Veyron time but I don't think I'll update the post until I get the real number.

The waffling is driving me crazy. I think I'll run a few laps in the works MP4-12C and fully upgraded Radical SR3-RS this weekend. I also have the terrible LFA.
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A class my 5:43
B class Steve 6:19
C class Steve 6:46
D class Steve 7:42

You got the times already, try to get close to it if you can :sly:
 
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So I guess the gauntlet has been thrown and I have to dig deeper on the fast cars. Fine. I have very little confidence I'll get anywhere near 5:43 but I'll try.
 
jiannone
So I guess the gauntlet has been thrown and I have to dig deeper on the fast cars. Fine. I have very little confidence I'll get anywhere near 5:43 but I'll try.
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Best thing to do mate is start from D class and work up to A. Am sure with better upgrades my D class time can be beat.
 
I'm more interested in benchmarking a number of cars. Not necessarily making the lowest possible number. Low numbers are important but there's a point where I feel I've gotten low enough.
 
Very nice thread. Indeed a pity the one at Nogripracing no longer possesses interest to its participants.

I'll just post a short video of my current best in D class, with Mazda RX-8.
Lap time is 7:38.475





Because this is an almost PS3 exclusive forum and I am a PC user I want to make a a couple of observations which I will elaborate afterwards.

1. Car handling and physics are significantly different between platforms
2. Translating lap times from one platform to the other may not be very accurate (or equivalent in absolute terms)

I've recently borrowed a PS3 console from a close friend in order to try out GT5, by which I've been quite impressed and thoroughly delighted (but that's a different matter)
He's also a Shift2 aficionado and had the game installed on the console, which enabled me to try it out as well.
I used the same wheel (Logitech DFP) and shortly the PS3 gamepad.
On my PC copy I have the Nogripracing UCP installed.

It took me a few minutes to get over the fact I'm playing the same game.
The cars feel and handle very differently.
First thing that struck me was the amount of grip available on PS3.
I only used Elite handling mode with PS3 and compared it to Elite, Intermediate and Novice on the PC.
The impression it gave me was that the grip level and tire stiffness on PS3 - Elite mode are a actually a bit raised compared to PC - Novice mode.

For some of the cars this translated in surreal handling and the ability to get to very interesting speeds (and lap times) without pushing the car all that much.
While on others it actually hindered and the cars felt overly lazy and unresponsive.

With the gamepad differences were even weirder.
I've never been able to successfully a gamepad on my PC version. All cars behaved overly twitchy and almost impossible to control.
On the PS3 I had no such issues. Cars were predictable and handling rather intuitive from the get go.
I'm sure a part of it is due to calibration, which is more difficult to get right on the PC, while being natural and by default on the console.
Even so, differences are striking and I need to give a huge credit the gamepad Shift2 players on the PC version.

On a more general note the physics of the PS3 Shift2 has given me the sensation the cars are sort of programmed to follow an almost predetermined line through the corners, which feels extremely odd coming from PC titles (Shift, pCARS, Simbin and ISI stuff).
The throttle control and steering corrections I needed to make on it were almost minimal to what I'm used to and, as I said, just feels odd.

I may be completely wrong, so take my observations with a grain of salt ...
I am however interested if others had the chance to test both versions (PS3 and PC) and what they feel about them.
 
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I'll be using this post as a place holder for all my Nordschleife videos.
Platform: PC // All driving aids OFF, Elite handling mode
Logitech Driving Force Pro wheel & modified G25 pedals (custom springs for brake and throttle)
Nogripracing UCP v1.0.99e installed


--> D CLASS
Mazda RX-8 (D499) - 7:38.475




--> LEGENDS:
Ford Capri RS3100 Gr.4 [C 989]- 7:26.725



Team NFS Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0 [B 1169]- 7:05.797



--> GT3 CLASS
Audi R8 LMS GT3 - 6:34.808



Matech Ford GT GT3 - 6:37.984




--> GT1 CLASS
Maserati MC12 GT1 - 6:17.267



Porsche 911 GT1-98 - 6:22.667




--> STOCK
Camaro SS Dr. Pepper Edition - 6:51.803



Pagani Zonda R - 6:07.877



Team NFS AWD Scion tC - 5:59.798




--> WORKS
Mclaren F1 Works - 5:48.920



Personal best
Gumpert Apollo Works - 5:44.656




--> CAREER mode
Modern A Invitational w/ Mclaren MP4-12C - 6:37.558




Others
Ferrari FXX [PI 2181]- 5:45.110 (PI 2181)
 
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hi folks

i had a wee go at the D class nord run and this happened



its not the cleanest lap i have ever done few 🤬 ups but its a 7:35:756 in my D class 499 mazda rx7 fc3s, sorry its a reply i realy didnt think i could get anywhere near steve or turbo here just wanted to see how far off i was and it just happened,

also i was on a pad as well, let me know what you guys think 👍
 
Nice times hondy and bogdantw2, love D class round nord. Hondy did u try C and B class to mate? Updated my D class vid 7.31.895 now.
 
STEVE182rs
Nice times hondy and bogdantw2, love D class round nord. Hondy did u try C and B class to mate? Updated my D class vid 7.31.895 now.
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no mate i have not tryed anymore races, i hate the track you know that, lol, i just wanted to see how close i was to yor 1st time so gave it 1 lap to see and did the 7:35,

nice new time mate 👍
 
Nice lap hondy, It´s faster than I ever did there on this class. Damn steve, you just improved more than 10seconds...I hope get my cam tomorrow, it´s coming by post, so if it´s not I´ll just can upload my D class lap next week, I´m working in 3 cars, retro, modern and legends, should post this 3
 
Good job Hondy and Steve.

I gave the RX-7 FC3S a go a bit earlier.
The core upgrades are street turbo and engine swap. Without them the car is useless.
After 5 serious laps in the car I'm down to 7:32.8.

I think I can match Steve's time with a bit more tinkering around the setup.
I don't like the stock tires at all, they're pretty much rubbish.
You get no warning when you get over the slip angle and the car just snaps and kerbs are a nightmare.

The car is however crazy fast - 290 km/h at the end of the long straight (this is with 0 downforce and final drive pushed all the way to the right).

I'll post a video a bit later, when I get closer (or lower) to Steve's time.
 
STEVE182rs
Nice1 mate, This time is coming down nice:tup: My vid Updated 7.19.549
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yeh man!!now we are close to the limit of the class. About the same time as usual, 7:19 lap uploaded. will back soon with C class laps, but got no answer for that 6:46 yet...
 
thiagoturbao
come on man, in this classes upgrades are like 80% of the job...Not fair if we give you. Try your best, it´s just fun, nothing to prove here.
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It doesn't hurt to ask for an apples to apples comparison. I've been through a million iterations of C cars and ended up with a couple that are way more handling oriented than power. I like them that way for a few reasons, not least of which is that it gives slow people a chance.
 
jiannone
It doesn't hurt to ask for an apples to apples comparison. I've been through a million iterations of C cars and ended up with a couple that are way more handling oriented than power. I like them that way for a few reasons, not least of which is that it gives slow people a chance.
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hun...It is apple to apple, I am a Man, on Ps3, same game, same upgrades and tunes available. The rest up to you :)
💡 I can give you some tips..D class turbo 1 and no engine swap...(this is what change the car) C class, Use rotary port 2, 5 gears...Swap engine, Turbo 2...Tyres Brakes and suspension always full (RX7 FC).

This car works well on high RPM, so I push final gear ratio to 8, D and C. It should help u
 
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Banging laps thiago, we are defo at the business end of D class, this has to be world record this on PS3 and Xbox. Its a shame more people ant up for the challenge!! @jiannone thiagos right, Turbo 1, NO swap is the base of this car. There are a few different ways to go after that which will all get around 720, process of elimination to find the best. @bogdantw2, seen some of your vids, your a quick clean racer sir. Shame your not on PS3 mate.
 

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