Not getting the VEE-SIX Mustang, getting another Focus!

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There is a 90% chance that I'm buying...are you ready...a SILVER V6 (vee-six) 2003 Mustang. Yup...a VEE-SIX Mustang. Let the flaming begin. :nervous: I pay approx $483 a month for car payment and insurance with the Focus, this will put me even or slighty less. My used car manager at the Ford dealer is selling me the car for $8750.

Pros:
  • 5spd
  • RWD
  • Cheap to fix
  • Cheap to modify--as in dropping a P71 modular in it
  • Cheap price
  • Cheaper overall monthly payment than my Focus
  • Can be convertered to a GT (easy), Cobra (tedious and expensive), or Cobra R (really expensive) with some $$$

Cons:
  • Have to live with driving a DULL color
  • Have to live with driving a VEE-SIX for a while
  • Have to live with the stars and looks from people and other car enthusiasts as they laugh at me for driving a slow heavy boat
  • Did I mention the dull color?
  • Did I mention the VEE-SIX engine?
  • Its an older car with slightly more miles

Incase you guys and gals need to see what I'm getting here are the girly photos.

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Monte Carlo
Spend the extra 500 for a slightly older V-8 GT.
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Can't for three main reasons. I can't get a loan for one and the insurance will be WAY too expensive, also in order to get an affordable GT in terms of price I'm looking at either a sub-1999 or a 2000-2002 with A TON of mileage. The insurance for the V6 'Mustang is actually $10 cheaper a month than my Focus. Go figure... :crazy:
 
Go get a nicer focus then! V-6 Mustangs are the worst thing to ever happen to mankind. But the greatest things for girls and hairdressers.
 
Not a bad Mustang (but it's a V6), but a better bet would be to buy a P71 Crown Victoria if one's available in the area. ;)
 
JCE3000GT
Can't for three main reasons. I can't get a loan for one and the insurance will be WAY too expensive, also in order to get an affordable GT in terms of price I'm looking at either a sub-1999 or a 2000-2002 with A TON of mileage. The insurance for the V6 'Mustang is actually $10 cheaper a month than my Focus. Go figure... :crazy:
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Monte Carlo
Go get a nicer focus then! V-6 Mustangs are the worst thing to ever happen to mankind. But the greatest things for girls and hairdressers.
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Again, 2 problems with that.
  1. I am restricted to my dealer's used car inventory. And no SVT's avail.
  2. I'm not thrilled with the Focus performance aftermarket. For the same amount of money I can drop a Crown Vic P71 Police Interceptor motor in the V6 Mustang as dropping a small turbo in the Focus...and the Focus still wouldn't be fast.

I'd rather live with the possibility of being able to drop a V8 in the Mustang than having to settle for an absolute WORTHLESS 2.0L Duratec aftermarket. Yea, I really like my Focus but I am ready to get back to owning a RWD sport coupe. That and my Camaro would cost too much money to get running for a daily driver.

RVDNuT374
Not a bad Mustang (but it's a V6), but a better bet would be to buy a P71 Crown Victoria if one's available in the area. ;)
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I wish, but I have to buy a car from my dealership. And the only P71 that is there is a retired 1997 Vic that has a blown...errr...everything.
 
Going by the thread title I was expecting this a thread based off a Doug debate. :p

Anyway it looks ok, too bad on the V6 part, have fun with it.
 
190hp in a 3000lb car doesn't sound that bad to me.

And anyway, I wouldn't worry about people looking or staring at you for driving a V6 mustang, nobody is going to care what you are driving.
 
You know it's funny but it almost seems like theres a resurgence of the lesser v6 muscle cars lately, I've seen several articles where people,magazines, whatever, have tuned these things using the stock engines. In any case I'm sure it would be a good car with the potential to be great later. What does that engine make? 190 or so? The next gen v6 mustang due in 09 will probably out power the last gen 260hp v8 GT. How times have changed:)
 
What's funny land sea air is the new '05-'07 V6 keeps up with the previous generation GT's. The 5spd in the new '05-'07 V6 is actually quite good, I had some fun in the one I drove on a dealer trade.

I don't want to do anything to the V6, all my extra money will be spent on a V8 and GT suspension swap.

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Oh and retsmah the curb weight for the V6 is actualy 3066lbs...I thought it was MUCH heavier then that. Hmm...

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2003/ford/mustang/100079369/specs.html
 
Yeah man they're good cars, my friend has one and SHE loves it. I'm not sure if thats going to make it any easier for you though :dopey:
 
So have you driven this exact car yet? Hers is an auto :indiff: but its an '04 :) and I think it has right around 200 hp, definitely an entertaining drive for the 5 minutes it took her to realize it was a bad idea to let me drive it. I was actually surprised by the interior too.👍 👍
 
I don't like the interior of the pre-2005 Mustangs. They are dreadful. I will drive it tomorrow at lunchtime, we have a sales meeting @ 8:30am and I have some tests I have to do before I can test drive it. I'm trying to find someone with a diagram or how-to for that intake needed for the M112.
 
I have to say that I'm a bit passive on the idea of a V6 Mustang versus the other cars in the background there. Granted, you are right in that a GT conversion can be done, but not without spending a lot of time and money on new parts and such. IMO, it really isn't worth it, as you would be better off just buying an old, slightly used GT.

Is that a black Camaro that I see parked way-off in the back there? What about that gold Accord?

Depending on how much money you are looking to spend, wouldn't it be easier to go out to auction with the dealer and find something better? It isn't that the Mustang V6 is a horrible car, but there are far-better cars (and even trucks) that you could buy for the same amount of money...

But thats just my opinion.
 
YSSMAN
I have to say that I'm a bit passive on the idea of a V6 Mustang versus the other cars in the background there. Granted, you are right in that a GT conversion can be done, but not without spending a lot of time and money on new parts and such. IMO, it really isn't worth it, as you would be better off just buying an old, slightly used GT.

Is that a black Camaro that I see parked way-off in the back there? What about that gold Accord?

Depending on how much money you are looking to spend, wouldn't it be easier to go out to auction with the dealer and find something better? It isn't that the Mustang V6 is a horrible car, but there are far-better cars (and even trucks) that you could buy for the same amount of money...

But thats just my opinion.
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Those pics aren't from my dealer--I just googled the same year and color Mustang. My main reasoning for the V6 is mainly price versus fun. In this case I can have both--mostly. The V6 is faster than my current Focus and it is RWD so that right there is an upgrade I think. The fact that car payment + insurance will be cheaper than my Focus is the deciding factor here as well. Yes there are better cars, hell there is a few cars on the lot that are sweet--but I just can't afford them...yet. An '05 GTO and a Mini Cooper S to name a few...but I don't feel like spending $1000 a month for car payment and insurance. I can't stress enough that the insurance for the V6 Mustang is CHEAPER than my Focus. That's huge.

And it wouldn't be expensive to do the V8 swap, I have tools, space, a cherry picker, an empty garage, and some friends to help me. Me and my brother did an MR2 engine swap in around 50~60 hours total. I estimate $2k for the P71 Crown Vic and another $1k for some rebuilt/new engine components to rebuild the engine. Time is subjective. I can always drive my Camaro to my work that's 3.8mi away while I do the conversion.
 
Ouch, bro.


Well, it may be a V6, but at least you have the ability to make it a badass machine.

Hell, maybe even fully re-create a Cobra R. ;)
 
*McLaren*
Ouch, bro.


Well, it may be a V6, but at least you have the ability to make it a badass machine.

Hell, maybe even fully re-create a Cobra R. ;)
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If I sell enough cars at the dealership I just might. The average income here for the noobs is around $3k a month after taxes and the like. We get paid weekly, and I really don't have THAT many bills to pay. So, if I make enough $$$ I will either pay the V6 off and start the conversion OR trade the V6 in for a regular '05+ GT or '03-'04 Cobra. Or something I wanted to do with my P71 Crown Vic was put the 6.8L V10 engine in it. That thing is a beast, the 3 valve version has over 360bhp and over 450lb.ft of torque. And imagine THEN adding some forced induction. :crazy:

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socomplayer2
Stop!!! Dont do it!!! Think of what your doing!!! Go and buy a 5.0, NOW!!!
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If you are serious then please read above about the cost issues. I simply can't afford an older car because no one will finance something older than 1999 and a V8 Mustang would be huge insurance.

If you are being sarcastic then...that was a good one.
 
V6 Mustang? That's a hairdressers car.
I must ask: Is it a convertible?
If the answer is yes, then we will need 100cc's of testosterone, stat.
If not, then a relatively good buy, actually. I'd screw around with an old 5.0L V8 before touching any of the modular engines, though.
The 6.8 you're looking at also sounds rather insanely heavy, too.
Make sure, whatever you do, that you find some good tire to add to the car if you do screw around with it.
I'd personally look for a Panther body first, though, be it a police package or not.
 
Toronado
V6 Mustang? That's a hairdressers car.
I must ask: Is it a convertible?
If the answer is yes, then we will need 100cc's of testosterone, stat.
If not, then a relatively good buy, actually. I'd screw around with an old 5.0L V8 before touching any of the modular engines, though.
The 6.8 you're looking at also sounds rather insanely heavy, too.
Make sure, whatever you do, that you find some good tire to add to the car if you do screw around with it.
I'd personally look for a Panther body first, though, be it a police package or not.
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I hate convertibles, with a passion. I love the Ford 302ci as much as any Mustant fan...but I prefer the noise of the Ford 281ci modular.

I don't have a clue how heavy the 6.8L is...I'd love to find out. Since its based off of the 5.4L it probably would be slightly more. Some info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Triton#6.8_Triton_V10

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Weights of Ford's Modular engines:
4.6L SOHC 500 lbs.
5.4L SOHC 525 lbs
4.6L DOHC Aluminum Block 425 lbs
5.4L DOHC 540 lbs
6.8L SOHC V-10 640 lbs.

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Someone's done it --> V6 to V10

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I didn't see this thread until today, but I must say that I'm one of the few proponents of the V6 Mustang and I'm very outspoken about my praise for the vehicle. You're making a great choice, and just think of it this way: what other four-year-old car can do 0-60 in, what, the high 7 or low 8-second range and cost under $9k? It's a freaking steal.
 
I ditto on the "yay V6" thing. Personally, I'd get it... do the suspension mods... then wait a while, stump up for forced induction (they do have superchargers for the six, right?)... run it till you blow it... sell off the supercharger and then upgrade to a V8. :lol:
 
there's also this solution: keep driving the focus, save more until you have afford to buy somethin nice that has small insurance rates etc.

for gods sake, don't buy a Ford. go for Chevy Camaro (V6) instead.. then you'll atleast have decent looking car.
 
M5Power
and just think of it this way: what other four-year-old car can do 0-60 in, what, the high 7 or low 8-second range and cost under $9k? It's a freaking steal.
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I agree with the rest of your post, but on this part: quite a few, actually.
 
Leonidae
for gods sake, don't buy a Ford. go for Chevy Camaro (V6) instead.. then you'll at least have decent looking car.
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That, and you'll get a V6 with some balls as well. Plus, the ol' 3800 can except quite a bit of modification, including the supercharger, etc. I believe the Camaro would do 0-60 in 7.3 seconds and would manage to pull a moderately respectable .81g on the skidpad.
 
YSSMAN
That, and you'll get a V6 with some balls as well. Plus, the ol' 3800 can except quite a bit of modification, including the supercharger, etc. I believe the Camaro would do 0-60 in 7.3 seconds and would manage to pull a moderately respectable .81g on the skidpad.
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Will he be able to find one on a Ford dealer lot, though?
 
Probably. Maybe. Maybe not. Probably not. No. No way in Hell.
 
JCE3000GT
I simply can't afford an older car because no one will finance something older than 1999 and a V8 Mustang would be huge insurance.
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I financed my 97 GT!


But I've got nothing for the insurance bit. Those are the combined reasons why the car is plateless right now.
 

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