Now thats a big block Ford

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well the gentleman doing the upgrade did suggest adding more power would be easy, plus if you had the resources to rebuild a tank engine from the 40s wouldn't you update/modify it a little along the way???
 
That is going to have a seriosly heavy front end, it's a hell of a lot of torque though. The 500bhp may not sound like an omg that's insane, figure, but over 1000ft/lbs of torque is pretty damn significant. I don't think it will be struggling to keep the front on the ground though.
 
and to think some people I know got all excited when the LS1 came out "ZOMG ITZ ALUMINUM V8" oh wait, they did it waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before and many times since.
 
land sea air
and to think some people I know got all excited when the LS1 came out "ZOMG ITZ ALUMINUM V8" oh wait, they did it waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before and many times since.
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yes but the ls1 is a pretty powerful engine. stick an ls1 in anything and you have a crazy street machine.

I saw an ls1 powered rx-7 in a drift video. not the best mix (rx-7 :yuck:, lol jk) but it definitly worked.
 
land sea air
and to think some people I know got all excited when the LS1 came out "ZOMG ITZ ALUMINUM V8" oh wait, they did it waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before and many times since.
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Well the LS-series engines are aluminum and really light (like, as light as a lot of 6 cyl engines) so thats why they get a lot of attention.

This tank engine is aluminum but still is really heavy.
 
Well for the torque it's putting out it's not really that heavy, for example a 5.9 Cummins turbo, like in the Ram (which also does 1000 lb-ft fairly easily), weighs in at over 1000 lbs dry.

But you don't see Rams doing wheelies so I doubt this would be doing them either.
 
Amazing! Really stirs the pulse...:D

Found another picture of the Stang


Here is another GAA tank engine, dressed all pretty...look how those triple 4bbls tuck right in there!!



And a little info on it... (emphasis mine)
Greetings: I'd like to continue and add to the discussion about the Ford GAA V-8. My rod project involves building up one of these engines and putting it in a 1984 Ford F350 cab / chassis donor truck. The truck is a long wheelbase regular cab dually with 6.9 diesel and 4-speed manual trans. I am adding a 36" cut down sleeper behind the cab and then a 6' flat bed with my cargo being (3) 16-gallon polished beer kegs on cradles, which will double as extra fuel tanks. The truck is to be built up as a "driver" and not a trailer queen. My motto in building it is to keep it "Simple Yet Functional - Like a Sledgehammer." The GAA engine is 33" wide, only 3" wider than a Ford 4.6, and will fit the engine bay with 1.5" to spare on each side. If I offset the engine 1" to the right, I won't even have to move the vacuum booster. The heater box, however, will have to go. The GAA engine is only 3" longer than a Ford 300" truck 6, but will require notching the firewall for lengthwise clearance. I want to add a Detroit Locker to the Dana 70 axle. The engine requires an automatic trans, as the engine's torque cannot be controlled with a manual trans and riding the clutch. I'm starting out with a Ford 4R100 and will changeover to an Allison 6-speed after I've saved up a whole lot of pennies and dimes.

On to the engine: my #1 engine as built up is stock except for carburetion and ignition. The 2 Stromberg 2-bbls have been replaced by 3 Demon 4-bbls and the very weak WW2 era ignition has been replaced by 2 MSD distributors with 6AL controllers. I will try to attach a couple of pics of the engine to this memo. The stock engine as installed in Sherman tanks had 1,000 lbs of torque or more at every rpm from just above idle to redline. If it were left totally stock, when the light turned green there'd be 1,000 lbs of torque to pull away from the light with. With the changes made, this should increase to around 1,200 lbs of torque or more. The engine is all aluminum, but "light" is relative. "Light" means around 900-950 lbs. The block itself is very light, around 200 lbs, weighing less than a 350 Chevy cast iron block. Of course, with the 5.4" bores, its like swiss cheese. Two average men can pick up a block and carry it around with no problem. However, the crank weighs around 135 lbs, each rod weighs over 6 lbs (no use quoting gram weights here) and even the pistons weigh over 5 lbs each. The cut down flywheel weighs around 100 lbs. Still, there's no more weight on the front end than there would be with a 460 or diesel with a snow plow attached. In fact its less. The heads are DOHC, 4-valves. The exhaust headers are of fabricated stainless steel and are both light and streamlined. A whole lot of air goes into and out of the GAA.

With the GAA, its tough to grasp just "how 'big' is 'big?'" Its bigger than (3) Chevy 350s, bigger than (2) Dodge V-10 rams plus an additional PT Cruiser 4, bigger than 2 1/2 Chrysler 426s, etc. If someone had a built-up Boss at 550 cubes, it would only be as big as one of the cylinder banks on the GAA. If somebody had a GM 502 crate motor, you could say, "another 48 cubic inches and you'd be half as big as my Ford." And all the power is right at the bottom end where its needed for street use. How about fuel economy? My trans has a 30% overdrive, and with a converter lockup, an add-on US Gear (0r Gearvendors) 22% overdrive, a 3.54 gearset in the Dana 70, and 265/75x16 tires, the truck will pull around 1080 rpms at 60 mph. I think 5-7 mpg is reasonable, which is in line with many other street rods, especially those with tunnel rams, blowers and / or gears.

Its just another Ford truck with another Ford V-8. Only more so. The truck is being built to putter around in and drive to car shows on weekends. And if I can pull this off, I'll look forward to meeting some of you folks at McDonalds (or Burger Doodle) on Friday nights.
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From: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160380

Only 3" wider than a 4.6! Ford, where did you go astray.
 
TheCracker
This guys Mustang, looking at the pictures, does appear to be a un-road legal dragster. 500bhp isn't going to win many prizes at the strip.
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That's not what I read.

...It's setting in my 70 Mustang right now which I plan on taking on short cruises when finished, 24 gallons of alcohol wont go very far...
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Yeah, all you need is a single tread which is 2/32 deep to be legal.

This for example is a totally legal road tire.
 
::falls out of chair into puddle of own drool::
I wonder if its louder than the 3 rotor racing engine in Mazdas previous Courage race car... off topic, stumpy is that a flathead motor on that hot rod in the link on your sig cuz it sure sounds like it.
 

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