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After seeing countless claims and tunes for the hallowed nurburgring, the fastest tune, the sickest etc etc, after trying t hem i realised the tuner didnt really achieve anything than altering the cars handling, never beneficial to the track just changed. so i decided to set to work myself.

My aim, was to get the fastest road car, no downforce, just pure springs. at present my lap record for the BMW M3 CSL is 6:39 (nurburg 12.9miles)

what no-one has seemed to figure out yet is that every setting you change has a knock on effect to all other settings. thats simple you say, yet no-one seems to get past the same old problems. eg.... you change your front shock compression from 4 to 3, what you have done is make it stiffer, so when you turn and the car leans its will 'collapse' slower to its bottom point (makes sense you say) what you havnt factor'd in is that now you have done this anti rolls bars need to been softened, camber re-arranged, change the toe and your ride height probs need adjusting too, its not just a '1-setting swap' fix.

no doubt i will get a load of abuse for this thread, however im bored of the i run this camber setting and it works, well i run the opposite and it works so your lieing etc etc, each setting is relevant to the adjoinging componants setting.

and for those who doubt me, here is my M3 CSL settings.
Front Rear L.S.D
Ride Height -17 -16 12
Spring Rate 13.5 14.6 32
Shock Ext 7 7 11
Shock Comp 3 3
Anti R B 4 4
Camber 1.6 1.9
Toe 0.11 -0.8

you wont find a easier more predictable set-up than this. it corners as fast a cars in the league or 2 above and still holds more speed. would like to have some feedback on the set-up, as i am planning on taking alot of 'company cars' and making them as fast if not faster than their racing counterparts.

the only thing i can say to help any1 who is trying to tune a car is.....

Just because it understeers, doesnt mean you need to adjust the front end 👍
 
prototype stig
After seeing countless claims and tunes for the hallowed nurburgring, the fastest tune, the sickest etc etc, after trying t hem i realised the tuner didnt really achieve anything than altering the cars handling, never beneficial to the track just changed. so i decided to set to work myself.

My aim, was to get the fastest road car, no downforce, just pure springs. at present my lap record for the BMW M3 CSL is 6:39 (nurburg 12.9miles)

what no-one has seemed to figure out yet is that every setting you change has a knock on effect to all other settings.

you wont find a easier more predictable set-up than this


Your CSL record needs some catching up, my CSL hit 6:37 on a clean but not perfect lap, it will do better with good lines. My GTR will go even Faster ;)

You just talk a lot of crap. Your not posting any time that even needs a second glance. My CSL was running 6:37 for a while now, even that is nothing special really. You badmouth everybody here acting like you know something none of us do, but your talking out your butt hole.

(o_O)
 
Lol! Pwned! And Assassin, where did you learn the (o_O) thing, it was one of Noobsteer's 'signature marks, from what I remember……
 
Onboy123
Lol! Pwned! And Assassin, where did you learn the (o_O) thing, it was one of Noobsteer's 'signature marks, from what I remember......

Brooks Brothers Brothers Brooks Da No_OB lives vicariously through me (o_O)
 
Your CSL record needs some catching up, my CSL hit 6:37 on a clean but not perfect lap, it will do better with good lines. My GTR will go even Faster ;)

You just talk a lot of crap. Your not posting any time that even needs a second glance. My CSL was running 6:37 for a while now, even that is nothing special really. You badmouth everybody here acting like you know something none of us do, but your talking out your butt hole.

(o_O)
Abuse is welcome my friend, now I have a target time to work to.
You carry on with your downforce tuning im going the other way, shame to think after you spent many years setting up these cars you only pull 2 seconds off me. Time well spend tho aye!
 
prototype stig
shame to think after you spent many years setting up these cars you only pull 2 seconds off me. Time well spend tho aye!

"Many years setting up these cars"?

Okay, if you say so. It was many many years I spent on them. Me PD we are in like that. You know I had a Pre-Release copy of GT5 with a set of M3's ready to go 2 years ago. I've been working on the M3's this whole time just living and breathing M3.

:D
 
"Many years setting up these cars"?

Okay, if you say so. It was many many years I spent on them. Me PD we are in like that. You know I had a Pre-Release copy of GT5 with a set of M3's ready to go 2 years ago. I've been working on the M3's this whole time just living and breathing M3.

:D


Thats pretty sweet, look im not meaning to tread on no-one toes or anything, just sharing what I learned, i am also hooked on the m3. Its still a working project and considering it has no downforce its not a bad set up, maybe you could help me with a issue im having?
 
After seeing countless claims and tunes for the hallowed nurburgring, the fastest tune, the sickest etc etc, after trying t hem i realised the tuner didnt really achieve anything than altering the cars handling, never beneficial to the track just changed. so i decided to set to work myself.

My aim, was to get the fastest road car, no downforce, just pure springs. at present my lap record for the BMW M3 CSL is 6:39 (nurburg 12.9miles)

what no-one has seemed to figure out yet is that every setting you change has a knock on effect to all other settings. thats simple you say, yet no-one seems to get past the same old problems. eg.... you change your front shock compression from 4 to 3, what you have done is make it stiffer, so when you turn and the car leans its will 'collapse' slower to its bottom point (makes sense you say) what you havnt factor'd in is that now you have done this anti rolls bars need to been softened, camber re-arranged, change the toe and your ride height probs need adjusting too, its not just a '1-setting swap' fix.

no doubt i will get a load of abuse for this thread, however im bored of the i run this camber setting and it works, well i run the opposite and it works so your lieing etc etc, each setting is relevant to the adjoinging componants setting.

and for those who doubt me, here is my M3 CSL settings.
Front Rear L.S.D
Ride Height -17 -16 12
Spring Rate 13.5 14.6 32
Shock Ext 7 7 11
Shock Comp 3 3
Anti R B 4 4
Camber 1.6 1.9
Toe 0.11 -0.8

you wont find a easier more predictable set-up than this. it corners as fast a cars in the league or 2 above and still holds more speed. would like to have some feedback on the set-up, as i am planning on taking alot of 'company cars' and making them as fast if not faster than their racing counterparts.

the only thing i can say to help any1 who is trying to tune a car is.....

Just because it understeers, doesnt mean you need to adjust the front end 👍

Afraid all us idiots are at a loss on improving your masterpiece.:sly:
 
Erm no not at all, I want it to improved upon. After you kindly inform me of your 6:37 I have gone away and revised certain areas, low 6:39 now, so still improving, think your taking this too seriously. If some1 improves my tune I will be happy, means I get to go faster, unlike you Mr god of tune who gets on his high horse, so what if you give head to a polyphony digital employee. Ive nearly tuned a m3 as quick as yours and how long have you been working on it? A few weeks for me. So jog on kitty and practice having your period.
 
You realize, he did that car in no more than a week right? A tune is easy to pit together if you know what you are doing, and since I don't, I'll leave it to noobsteer I mean AssassinTuner to respond from here on. Good luck to the both of you 👍
 
prototype stig
Erm no not at all, I want it to improved upon. After you kindly inform me of your 6:37 I have gone away and revised certain areas, low 6:39 now, so still improving, think your taking this too seriously. If some1 improves my tune I will be happy, means I get to go faster, unlike you Mr god of tune who gets on his high horse, so what if you give head to a polyphony digital employee. Ive nearly tuned a m3 as quick as yours and how long have you been working on it? A few weeks for me. So jog on kitty and practice having your period.

Seems like you need a Maxi Pad Bro... Take your own advice and stop taking it too seriously. Are you really surprised? BTW that 6:37 was done after running 6 laps with the finished tune. :sly: haven't had a need to try & push it, or the GTR any further. Nurbs only one Track, I'm not a record chaser either. I don't have the time for it anymore, just here to have fun with GT and keep it entertaining longer.

And Onboy123 is right, took about a week to Tune it, only because I get little seat time for GT. Not to mention it wasn't tuned for the Nurb, just took it there (like I do most of my stuff) after it was finished.
 
Seems like you need a Maxi Pad Bro... Take your own advice and stop taking it too seriously. Are you really surprised? BTW that 6:37 was done after running 6 laps with the finished tune. :sly: haven't had a need to try & push it, or the GTR any further. Nurbs only one Track, I'm not a record chaser either. I don't have the time for it anymore, just here to have fun with GT and keep it entertaining longer.

And Onboy123 is right, took about a week to Tune it, only because I get little seat time for GT. Not to mention it wasn't tuned for the Nurb, just took it there (like I do most of my stuff) after it was finished.

it takes two to begin a fight, that's it. Let's improve our tunes and check what can be done to let them better, i have one too, that's the only thing to do, and it's the best part. DRIVING.
 
it takes two to begin a fight, that's it. Let's improve our tunes and check what can be done to let them better, i have one too, that's the only thing to do, and it's the best part. DRIVING.

True, lets get some love back in the room........... Ive revised the set-up and pulled a un-official 6:37.275 (went too far into the pitlane) settings if required for test (DFGT)

Maybe you should revive the m3csl record, there an awful lot of 550pp racers usin it,

Anyway back to business
 
After seeing countless claims and tunes for the hallowed nurburgring, the fastest tune, the sickest etc etc, after trying t hem i realised the tuner didnt really achieve anything than altering the cars handling, never beneficial to the track just changed. so i decided to set to work myself.

My aim, was to get the fastest road car, no downforce, just pure springs. at present my lap record for the BMW M3 CSL is 6:39 (nurburg 12.9miles)

what no-one has seemed to figure out yet is that every setting you change has a knock on effect to all other settings. thats simple you say, yet no-one seems to get past the same old problems. eg.... you change your front shock compression from 4 to 3, what you have done is make it stiffer, so when you turn and the car leans its will 'collapse' slower to its bottom point (makes sense you say) what you havnt factor'd in is that now you have done this anti rolls bars need to been softened, camber re-arranged, change the toe and your ride height probs need adjusting too, its not just a '1-setting swap' fix.

no doubt i will get a load of abuse for this thread, however im bored of the i run this camber setting and it works, well i run the opposite and it works so your lieing etc etc, each setting is relevant to the adjoinging componants setting.

and for those who doubt me, here is my M3 CSL settings.
Front Rear L.S.D
Ride Height -17 -16 12
Spring Rate 13.5 14.6 32
Shock Ext 7 7 11
Shock Comp 3 3
Anti R B 4 4
Camber 1.6 1.9
Toe 0.11 -0.8

you wont find a easier more predictable set-up than this. it corners as fast a cars in the league or 2 above and still holds more speed. would like to have some feedback on the set-up, as i am planning on taking alot of 'company cars' and making them as fast if not faster than their racing counterparts.

the only thing i can say to help any1 who is trying to tune a car is.....

Just because it understeers, doesnt mean you need to adjust the front end 👍
Maybe it's time CSL cracks open a CSL again. ;)

One Lap.
 
Am I the only one who thinks using Nurb lap times to justify tune superiority is absolutely hilarious?
 
Am I the only one who thinks using Nurb lap times to justify tune superiority is absolutely hilarious?
I don't think its hilarious but it can't be right. Nurburgring is a long track so its mostly down to the driver. The only way to prove which is better is if the same driver drives both tunes, then see what he thinks.
 
Ill chuck an M3 round the ring when i get home then spend some time removing prototype stigs rear bumper from the front of mine. lol
 
Am I the only one who thinks using Nurb lap times to justify tune superiority is absolutely hilarious?

Its not a good track for testing times if you have a couple of small offs it can completely ruin the lap time something like suzuka is a better track for this type of thing. Not too long not too short.

Dont get me wrong i really enjoy the ring but its difficult to get consistently same times, its not all down to the car or settings either alot of it is down to driver competence.
 
Its not a good track for testing times if you have a couple of small offs it can completely ruin the lap time something like suzuka is a better track for this type of thing. Not too long not too short.

Dont get me wrong i really enjoy the ring but its difficult to get consistently same times, its not all down to the car or settings either alot of it is down to driver competence.

I agree that Suzuka is a perfect track to compare cars and tunes. But when you know perfectly the ring and you don't do any mistake ,you can repeat your time lap after lap. Depending of the kind of mistake ,you can know how many seconds you'll loose because of it. I've driven on this track 1000 time maybe much more since GT4 to make the 100% of the game with DS3. I'm shure that who have done this ,can say the same, it's possible to tune a car on the ring and compare the results by the laps times yes.
 
I agree that Suzuka is a perfect track to compare cars and tunes. But when you know perfectly the ring and you don't do any mistake ,you can repeat your time lap after lap. Depending of the kind of mistake ,you can know how many seconds you'll loose because of it. I've driven on this track 1000 time maybe much more since GT4 to make the 100% of the game with DS3. I'm shure that who have done this ,can say the same, it's possible to tune a car on the ring and compare the results by the laps times yes.

Agreed.
 
Ran a 6:35.300 in 3 laps.
I moved some stuff around, mostly gears, softened everything a bit for comfort. ;)
 
Toe 0.11 -0.8

With these settings im surprised you made it to the start line as soon as you go around the first corner you can tell its not right.
 
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