Off Roading

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Interesting idea. They'd have to add a lot of features to make it happen, though - I don't know of any off-road game where you can actually get bogged. Are there any? If you're going for rough terrain you'd need to add in things like suspension travel and (what they call) getting crossed up - two diagonal opposite wheels in the air. That'll stop you going anywhere unless you've got diff-locks. If you were going to add that level of realism then you'd have to make the circuit sand-traps a bogging area - drive your car in there and you're stuck - unlike now where you can just drive out.

Then you'd have a whole raft of new modifications: diff locks, lift kits, aftermarket swamper tyres, etc.

Another suggestion for off roading would be rock-crawling trials. You have to get your vehicle through a set course that is 'very' challenging (Normal 4WD cars wouldn't have a chance...)

An interesting historical Swedish military vehicle called a Pinzgauer - also comes in a 4x4 version. I like 6x6 better.
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An example of a rock-crawler:
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And if you're going to have races like Dakar and the Baja, trucks would be awesome. Check this one out:
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There are many many more important features to be worked on and solved before off road tracks could or should be fully implemented. However I would like to see the inclusion of more trucks for GT5, but for now limit to road and rally tracks. I do think if they was to include all of the motor bikes in GT5 that it be a big plus for GT5. Meaning a big feature that other car games would not have. Maybe towards the end of GT5's life cycle they could perhaps introduce an off road test track or two. If offroad does ever make it in, I would say GT6 or later.
 
Baja 1000, heck yeah but a true free roam off road, trail ride or mud pit just doesn't fit in GT. Hey, I'm a die hard Jeeper (XJ) but it just doesn't fit. The free-roam might be a neat concept to just putt around in some cars. Personally, I wouldn't mid being able to just cruise around in a Corvette C1 instead of beating the crap out of it on the track all the time.
 
I agree with a free roam mode or at least limited free roam mode. I would really like to see say at the minimum 50 miles of roads built for a enhanced photo mode. Say a 50 mile drive through variuos terrain, mountians, hills, canyons, riverside, desert etc. Maybe even a small town or two. But just not one road severall roads that all tie together. My vision would be to have dozens of fanatastic photo locations all linked together.
 
What about something like a Targa race (e.g. the Targa Tasmania)? A championship of several different dirt/tarmac stages on a set route. They drive the cars from stage to stage, but whether you included that feature or not would be optional.

The other option you could have for this type of racing would be in the endurance section - long races (200 miles to 1000 miles) of a a set/semi-set route like Dakar or the Baja. The race would be specifically for off-road vehicles (not rally or road cars) and the pits are - as in real life - desert towns or outposts where you stop to refuel.
 
normally id agree that all cars should be in Gran Turismo, but i actually think for off-roading, they should make a seperate game for that. they could have a whole bunch of off-road trucks and suvs, theyd give you a bunch of accessories, performance parts, and off-road oriented parts, and you could choose an off-road race, a road race, or an off-road free roam mode. it would have all the aspects of gran turismo, except with trucks and such. it could be called Gran Turismo OR (Off-Road).
 
GT has always been synonymous with its catchphrase “the real driving simulator". This in no way defines the game purely as an on-road track racing simulator, it merely stipulates that it is the superior (PS2) driving game. Therefore any inclusion of more extreme off-road driving would IMO be completely justified.

On the topic of off-roading some members have mentioned buying games already made specifically for this purpose but these games lack the tuning capabilities that GT offers as well as GT's physics. PD has had a substantial amount of time now to fine tune (to an extent) their physics engine and they are very much centered around tarmac racing. With an inclusion of off-road racing these physics would no doubt need to be able to cope with a large number of different factors and surfaces, i.e. Mud, sand, rocks which all have the potential to move around while pressure is displaced on them, if such a mode was included I would be most happy to use it and would no doubt enjoy it fully, as long as the physics engine could cope with these harsher surfaces in a acceptable manner.


Some members have expressed that they would like free-roam capabilities, I see no problem with this, especially with the success of GT4's photo mode, which so many of our members enjoy! I see both sides of the argument though, and I would suggest that in any case if such a mode were included, that it should be kept to a minimal size for "cruising". Although to counter my last statement in some case we may see a bigger expansion of tracks due to knew blu-ray technologies.

I would even be happy to see PD get a license to use the 15000 square metre off road course at the "Autostadt". IMO it would be a welcome addition to the game, and would tie in with the overall theme superbly.
 
Although I would love to see the ideas of free roam, rock climbing, mudding, and other things like that, I'm afraid it most likely will not happen. I think it most likely would be too much work for it to be included, at least to that extent. It might end up being another game on it's own. One thing that is off-road and could more than likely be included would be off-road truck and buggy racing, like those seen in the Championship Off-Road Racing series. If someone is not sure what that is here is the site.

http://www.corracing.com/

One last thing that is a possibility with Kaz's interest in midget cars, could be Sprint Cars. I would love to see them put those in the game. I always loved them in TOCA 3 and would be excited to see PD take a crack at the series.
 
they need off road courses that have less sharp corners. I get so bored with the GT4 off road because it's like; straight, u-turn, straight, u-turn, straight, straight, u-turn, straight. They need long straights with hills and gentle curves you can take in 4th or 5th gear. That to me is so much more fun that going 25mph around u-turns in 1st MAYBE 2nd gear.
 
Dont know about Pikes Peak but what i would like would be downhill and uphill races and touge type tracks. Then building your own touge racer and racing them. They also need to have real tarmac rallies!
 
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