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I have an old Logitech driving force wheel...200 degree rotation, I use for
GT5 only. Is the Driving Force GT 900 degree wheel worth the money for an upgrade? I am a casual, very competent driver but can't really justify $250
for a G27.Any feedback is appreciated.
 
I've never used the old Driving Force Pro, but I've owned a DFGT for several months now and it was worth every penny. It's got great force feedback and dials that adjust ABS, traction control, stability management, and more while driving. Pedals are a little flimsy, but for under a hundred bucks, it's a pretty stellar deal. Again, I don't know how big a jump it is from the old DFP to the new DFGT, but I'm quite happy with it and would definitely recommend it.

$99.99 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015HYPOO/?tag=gtplanet-20
 
I'll go as far as to say that even when upgrading from a DFP to a DFGT it's worth it.
 
Coryd
I've never used the old Driving Force Pro, but I've owned a DFGT for several months now and it was worth every penny. It's got great force feedback and dials that adjust ABS, traction control, stability management, and more while driving. Pedals are a little flimsy, but for under a hundred bucks, it's a pretty stellar deal. Again, I don't know how big a jump it is from the old DFP to the new DFGT, but I'm quite happy with it and would definitely recommend it.

$99.99 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015HYPOO/?tag=gtplanet-20
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The Driving Force Pro is different to the Driving Force, and there's not a huge amount of difference between the DFP and DFGT. I've never used a Driving Force, but it must be getting on a bit now (the DFP has been around for years and the DF was its predecessor) so I'd say it's worth upgrading. The DFGT is basically a DFP with the RA menu controls and quieter (though still somewhat loud, in comparison to a G27) gears, but all things considered it may be the best value for money of all the wheels available for casual racers, I mean it turns, it has pedals... What more do you need?

In short, you won't regret it, but if you want to save even more money you could try and find a good DFP because it's the same but louder and hasn't got the RA menu stuff (but still has a full set of PS3 controller buttons on the wheel itself), but I'm sure DFGTs are cheap enough now anyway.
 
There is a nice review on ISR. They compare it to the DFP and I think the DFGT is not only a bit better the DFP. At ISR they said, the DFGT is in between of the DFP and the G25 but much more towards the G25.

So I guess for that amount of money it is hard to find anything better. And I also think you should upgrade from your DF.

Here are the links:

http://youtu.be/wGVo9otfU4M
http://youtu.be/sDH-RmW4iZs

Best regards,

Mahnegold
 
Well, if you could get a DFP for dirt cheap it might be tempting for a casual player, that's all I meant really.
 
FOSSILMOTO
I have an old Logitech driving force wheel...200 degree rotation, I use for
GT5 only. Is the Driving Force GT 900 degree wheel worth the money for an upgrade? I am a casual, very competent driver but can't really justify $250
for a G27.Any feedback is appreciated.
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I bought my DFGT for about $125, it was used a little bit but imo having just bought a G27, the DFGT is the best wheel, the buttons on the wheel make a MASSIVE difference, and the pedals are way too close, none of these problems exist for the GT, its only problems are its a little loud when calibrating, and the paddle shifters are a little small, and the PS button doesn't turn on the PS3 - that's it, its otherwise perfect.
 
I actually ran across an old driving force (not the dfgt or dfp) at a thrift store for five dollars. I bought it basically to see if it worked and for the fact that I have a toddler. I can't justify spending around 100 bucks for something he may break. I get it home and after some getting used to I have vastly improved my times. Pretty good fun for five bucks.
 
neema_t
The DFGT is basically a DFP with the RA menu controls and quieter (though still somewhat loud, in comparison to a G27) gears, but all things considered it may be the best value for money of all the wheels available for casual racers, I mean it turns, it has pedals... What more do you need?

In short, you won't regret it, but if you want to save even more money you could try and find a good DFP because it's the same but louder and hasn't got the RA menu stuff (but still has a full set of PS3 controller buttons on the wheel itself), but I'm sure DFGTs are cheap enough now anyway.
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The DFP and DFGT are definitely not "the same". The difference between rotating speed between the DFP and DFGT is considerable, the DFGT is considerably quieter and due to having smoother gears, allows you to make quicker, sudden corrections to your steering unlike the DFP.

The pedals are the same, yes. The wheel face is mostly the same, yes but the guts of the wheel are very much improved on the DFGT.
 
I didn't notice enough difference to want to spend that much money on a DFGT, that's all I meant really. I should've made it clear that I was stating an opinion, but I really think the differences are small enough that if a casual gamer can get a DFP for £20 like I did (twice) or a DFGT for full price, they wouldn't be wasting their money on the DFP unless they bought a defective one.
 
Thanks for the imput! I purchased a DFGT...impressed with the bigger wheel,
smoother action and more solid feel. The brake pedal stays on sometimes,and
the 900 degree is a little hard to save slides with, but overall I think it's a definate upgrade.
 
DFGT main problem is the pedal, especially the brake

it has 2 spring action so when the main rebaound spring weaken/ compress
the pedal will register some % of brake pressure even when you are not pressing it

one way, several way actually, is to take apart the pedal and the springs to either add padding to the spring end or re-open them with a pair of pliers
others such as rubber/squash ball in the brake well
or using bungee cord to tie around the pedals to gett a better feel

me personally, have the squash ball, but not in the brake well
but just balance it on top the hole
when i press, the friction will try to drag the ball into the gap, while at the same time the gap getting smaller
I do this because the ball inside the well moves around, and the pedal has a hard time staying in place when pressing the pedals hard. This way i can use the full travel of the pedal with some progressive pressure involve

the main grouse with this fix is that the ball have shavings dropped off due to the frictions.
gotta find a wy to solve this......
 
Haven't tried the ball trick yet...so far it seems if when the race is loading,
I depress the brake pedal a small amount it works fine. I'm looking in to the sponge loading and may give that a try.
 
Just an update. I've used this wheel about a month now,did the sponge thing to the brakes and throttle,and it works great. The steering is very forgiving up until the point where oversteer occurs....then good luck trying to catch the car. The 10 yr old Driving Force wheel with 200* steering is much easier to control the car. Rally driving and formula cars are way easier to drive with 200 degrees vs 900. Logitech should come out with some kind of download
for the DFGT to adjust the steering lock. I still have both wheels..so until then
it'll be switching between the two.
 
neema_t
I didn't notice enough difference to want to spend that much money on a DFGT, that's all I meant really. I should've made it clear that I was stating an opinion, but I really think the differences are small enough that if a casual gamer can get a DFP for £20 like I did (twice) or a DFGT for full price, they wouldn't be wasting their money on the DFP unless they bought a defective one.
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Besides the improoved FFB and buttons and functions and wheel size and design and improoved pedal reliability (yes same pedals and same feel but last longer and have fewer issues) there is not many reasons to upgrade (sarcasm)
 
FOSSILMOTO
The 10 yr old Driving Force wheel with 200* steering is much easier to control the car. Rally driving and formula cars are way easier to drive with 200 degrees vs 900.
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Easier, maybe... Realistic, not so much. Keep turning laps, we're all doing it. You're just frustrated because it's not as easy, don't worry you'll adjust as long as you don't keep crawling back to your DFP. Keep that thing to play the good old PS1/2 games.
 
I've owned all three wheels and each was an improvement over the previous model. I wish the DFGT had bigger shift paddles though. The Driving Force had nice paddles, 900 degree steering on the DFP but a little slow turning and kind of noisy, DFGT is quieter, quicker and smoother. I like it, just needs bigger paddles. You will probably never go back to a DS3!
 
tribolik
Besides the improoved FFB and buttons and functions and wheel size and design and improoved pedal reliability (yes same pedals and same feel but last longer and have fewer issues) there is not many reasons to upgrade (sarcasm)
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If you're going to be sarcastic at least understand what I was saying. The jump from DFP to DFGT wasn't big enough to warrant buying the DFGT over the G27 for me, which is of course an opinion. If you can't afford a G27 then the upgrade to DFGT is great, but I'd personally encourage anyone to save the extra cash for the G27. It's not THAT much money, really.
 
Coryd
I've never used the old Driving Force Pro, but I've owned a DFGT for several months now and it was worth every penny. It's got great force feedback and dials that adjust ABS, traction control, stability management, and more while driving. Pedals are a little flimsy, but for under a hundred bucks, it's a pretty stellar deal. Again, I don't know how big a jump it is from the old DFP to the new DFGT, but I'm quite happy with it and would definitely recommend it.

$99.99 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015HYPOO/?tag=gtplanet-20
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It's quite a reasonably sized jump from a DFP to a DFGT. You have a faster FFB motor in the DFGT, a larger wheel rim, RA Dials, PS button and more. I do have to say I like the DFP better in terms of looks IMO.
 
neema_t
If you're going to be sarcastic at least understand what I was saying. The jump from DFP to DFGT wasn't big enough to warrant buying the DFGT over the G27 for me, which is of course an opinion. If you can't afford a G27 then the upgrade to DFGT is great, but I'd personally encourage anyone to save the extra cash for the G27. It's not THAT much money, really.
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Just the pedals alone are worth the upgrade to a G27 but the cost is more than twice the price of a DFGT... it might not be much to you but it is to someone that can barely afford a DFGT.
 
Yeah DFGT's are great wheels for just casually gaming. If you want the "real" feel though look into some fanatec wheels.
 

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