But that's fanboyism for you. Anyone who complains about complaints should be banned. Every video game forum would be a thousand times better if they did.
Look. Neither one of you act like you've read a thing other than your own posts in this thread. And this is typical of people who want to take issue with the quite literal avalanche of complaints which have swamped these boards like a backed up sewer.
As Rylan says:
There's a lot of people complaining about valid things. There are a lot of people complaining for complaining's sake, never bringing anything new to the table. Either could be excused on the basis that they "love this game and want to make it better".
And as I posted:
This is the problem. The complainers don't seem content to post their gripes once, or a dozen times. Or a hundred. They seem hell bent on forcing everyone to feel as crouchy and pissy as they are, no matter how many posts it takes. So needless to say, finding a remotely sensible post to reply to takes quite a bit of patience these days...
And what is really tiresome is being labeled a fanboy when someone calls a complaint into question. This is as brainless as some liberal who starts slinging accusations of racism to destroy any kind of dissent with their points. Devedander is very good at this tactic. He accused me once of obsessively defending GT5 at every point. When I pointed out that I had made many of the same complaints as the others here - at actual GT5 fanboys now - he said that I had just cut n pasted what others had posted, but mostly I was just making excuses. That was just too dense to take seriously.
And this is the problem. Many of you complainers are so full of spite that you won't give or take on anything. You don't want a discussion. You don't want to hear that someone doesn't see the same problems as you, or sometimes, doesn't see your complaints as any big deal. You guys want to riot, and anyone that doesn't go along with the mobs gets trampled.
And as we've been saying, WE GEDDIT. GT5 isn't perfect by a long shot. It isn't the game that Kazunori discussed in interviews. It's not finished. But there's plenty of blame to go around for that. Kaz, and perhaps members of the team, evidently came up with additions to the game that had to be wedgied in smoothly, and possibly didn't work as planned. SONY meddled. They had PD make GT PSP when Kaz was insistent that GT5 come first, and they pretty much had to shelve GT5 during this time. They had PD work on making the game 3D, and then the game engine evidently had issues with shadows and pixelization that Prologue didn't have. We demanded that GT5 be out by Christmas week, no matter what. SONY agreed, insisting that it be out by Thanksgiving Day week, in order to capitalize on the lucrative holiday sales frenzy. So, PD had to cobble together what they had and package it in a reasonable game structure. They had to pull the game from production to adapt and test the game code with a new evidently more secure SDK just two or three weeks before release. And who knows what else went on.
So we got our game, and within two days of a worldwide release for once! But very few are happy with the game as it is. We all expected a game as big as the Milky Way and with as much to do as ten racers combined. It's hard to find a bigger GT fanboy than me, and I was complaining right along with the others.
But with me, there is a difference. I don't act like every flaw is as bad as a case of mesothelioma. I don't repeat my gripes every chance I get. It's a waste of time. So the paint shop doesn't even have it's own paint. I don't like that. But what does repeating that fact in every post do, besides make the others tired of reading it?
Take the A.I., a slightly different matter. People say the A.I. is the worst ever. I don't know how many times I've asked to hear of a game with better A.I. And FINALLY, ONE GUY mentioned iRacing's bots, I think in this very thread, as bots that make every other game's bots seem braindead.
And this is so typical. Die hard complainers don't want to have an actual discussion. They'd rather sling hate, and call you a fanboy rather than consider another viewpoint, or pose support for their position sensibly.
I keep thinking I'll learn my lesson and be done with these kinds of threads, but I keep thinking that maybe, just maybe, someone will actually post something thoughtful and intelligent, rather than a reactionary eruption. Someday I'll learn.
Maybe we must have another button near the search... it's "Rantless Search"
I'm suggesting this if you don't!
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