On-track or off?

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eggmann_gtbn
I don't know if I'm the only one still confused, but I need clarification for 1.4.18 (Infineon).
The entire track is bordered by yellow lines, but there are rumble strips also adjacent to (across) the yellow lines. (I think the same thing occurs at Midfield, with white lines.)

Are we allowed to drive with 4 wheels on these rumble strips, or 2 on rumbles and 2 in the grass/run-off area, or do we need to keep two wheels on or inside the yellow line for the entire track?

The current rules:

3.4: Track Definition: The 'Track' is defined as all paved areas, including curbs and rumble strips. This includes areas of cobblestone, sidewalk, bricks, or other alternate kinds of paving, and paved areas partially covered by dirt, sand, or gravel.

3.4.1: The following surfaces are not considered 'Track' or paved areas: dirt, sand, gravel, grass, or mulch. Any area, paved or unpaved, delineated out of bounds by cones or temporary markers, such as stretches of track that shortcut a chicane, are not considered 'Track'. For flat paved areas with a painted track border (such as diagonal stripes or a solid line), the track side line of the border shall constitute the edge of the Track. At least two wheels must stay on the track side of (or touching) this line. If the entire car enters the border area, this will be deemed an Off.
 
I think I found my answer. According to the pics that Duke commented on, the white and yellow lines can be ignored when there's a rumble strip touching them. In other words, the rumble strip is an extension of the track boundary beyond the painted line.We'll wait for Duke to confirm or deny these allegations. :)
 
That is my understanding as well. If you happen to have your inside tires on the rumble strips, and they are about to end, you need to get those tires back inside the line before the end of the rumble strips.
 
eggmann
I think I found my answer. According to the pics that Duke commented on, the white and yellow lines can be ignored when there's a rumble strip touching them. In other words, the rumble strip is an extension of the track boundary beyond the painted line.We'll wait for Duke to confirm or deny these allegations. :)

I'm not Duke, but I'm sure this is correct.
 
That's the way I see it too Eggmann. I'm also reading that as long as 2 wheels are in contact with the rumble strips or lines (Whichever be the farthest limit).. it's valid. Don't remember seeing anything about keeping 4 wheels inside the boundaries.. I figure that's more in the realms of Allivillas "Cleaner than Lucielle" series.. I think in a BC the quick boys like to hit the limit under the normal 2 wheels on track rules.

I'm not sure about the 3 "City" tracks Opera paris / SSR5 / & Monaco. I know theres some disscusion, but as far as I'm concerned with these tracks.. as long as you don't brush a barrier or clip an invisible wall, it's "Good to go".. regardless of what lines are painted on these tight City tracks (just my oppinion)
 
Tony Randall
I'm not sure about the 3 "City" tracks Opera paris / SSR5 / & Monaco. I know theres some disscusion, but as far as I'm concerned with these tracks.. as long as you don't brush a barrier or clip an invisible wall, it's "Good to go".. regardless of what lines are painted on these tight City tracks (just my oppinion)

Totally agree with you, Tony. 👍
 
bobkart
That is my understanding as well. If you happen to have your inside tires on the rumble strips, and they are about to end, you need to get those tires back inside the line before the end of the rumble strips.
That is correct!
Tony Randall
I'm not sure about the 3 "City" tracks Opera paris / SSR5 / & Monaco. I know theres some disscusion, but as far as I'm concerned with these tracks.. as long as you don't brush a barrier or clip an invisible wall, it's "Good to go".. regardless of what lines are painted on these tight City tracks (just my oppinion)
Well, my intention was to have areas clearly designated by striped-out pavement be coinsidered OFF TRACK. However, as I stated in the other thread, I'm willing to fall back to the "physical barriers only" for city tracks if there is a strong preference for it.
 
My team prefers to have the paint in the city tracks be there for decoration only. :)
 
I have no probleme with the line beeing decoration, but we should make it clear as soon as possible, our drivers are on it with lines.

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"Physical barriers only" would be our preference, it's easier to verify as contacts require less judgement than offs.
 
OK, for City and Rally Courses only, then: Anything physically able to be driven on is considered "on track".
 
eggmann
I think I found my answer. According to the pics that Duke commented on, the white and yellow lines can be ignored when there's a rumble strip touching them. In other words, the rumble strip is an extension of the track boundary beyond the painted line.We'll wait for Duke to confirm or deny these allegations. :)
Where are those pics posted?Ive been digging around in threads and cant seem to find them.
 
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