One More Time: Hummer's H3T

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In a move that undoubtely surprises no-one here in America, Hummer is planning to release a pickup version of it's H3 SUV here in North America. Given that the H3 is based on the GMT355 platform that origionally underpinned three pickups (Colorado, Canyon, Isuzu thingy), this crossover isn't too far outside of the box.

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The spies at KGP Photography have snapped photos of what appears to be a test mule for a production Hummer H3 pickup truck. General Motors unveiled a pickup concept called the H3T in December of 2003, but it never saw production. What's more, this test mule appears considerably longer than the two-door H3T.

While the rear camouflage is squared-off to look like a typical SUV, a close look at the way the fabric droops and pinches inward behind the C-pillar gives the game away. There is nothing but air back there. It appears the vehicle may be fitted with the bed from a Chevrolet Colorado Crew Cab.

At the Paris Motor Show, GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said traditional pickup truck — unlike the short-bed H2 SUT — remains an "option." Lutz made it clear Hummer would get "two or three more products" in the coming years "to give it sufficient market coverage."

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...Good idea? Good enough I say, to keep things different. With the H1 Alpha out of the lineup, they are going to need to make up a bit for the loss (not that they are losing much). Would I buy one? If they can make it more capable than the other GMT355s, certainly so! More power is going to be the key here, and I'm wondering if the long-rumored turbocharged I5 will debut in the truck?
 
As much as I hate the H3, if they put the Atlas into it it would probably be a very adequate vehicle (and besides, it would be easier than turbocharging the I5).
 
I've always been confused as to why they never used the Atlas into the H3, as it would seem like a more logical option. The extra power would be welcome, as it has as much as some of the low-level V8s in GM's lineup. But that said, a Turbocharged I5 might be fun as well if GM can build them correctly. The General has been thinking about the idea since the preliminary Colorado and Canyon models debuted, I belive the origional intent to be offered as a high-performance option to succeed the S-10 Extreme and Cyclones of yore.

Hummer could get away with the I6 over the I5T, IMO. The question becomes, would they do it? Probably not...
 
Wow....

Just another gas guzzler, and vehicle for soccer moms to buy.
I'm interested in why you'd think this. Is there anything to support your opinion, or are you just posting in hopes of creating humor?

I'm interested to see how this works, as the Honda Ridgeline is a similar application. I've always be enamored with the brutish appearance of the H's and this brings a bit of functionality to the H3. My original opinion was if looking for a smallerish SUV with a legacy, why not the Jeep? Almost identical in appearance and stature, but for less money.
 
I'm interested to see how this works, as the Honda Ridgeline is a similar application.

You forgot, Honda is totally off the hook because they sold a few hybrid gas sippers here ;) They can make an many gas-guzzlers as they like, and no one will complain.
 
I'm interested in why you'd think this. Is there anything to support your opinion, or are you just posting in hopes of creating humor?

I'm interested to see how this works, as the Honda Ridgeline is a similar application. I've always be enamored with the brutish appearance of the H's and this brings a bit of functionality to the H3. My original opinion was if looking for a smallerish SUV with a legacy, why not the Jeep? Almost identical in appearance and stature, but for less money.

What does it matter? Hummers are gas guzzlers here in Texas, and mainly driven by soccer moms. Some folks were so fed up with them eating up gas, many started burning some of the vehicles.
 
Honestly, I've gotten sick of Hummers (except the H1 - the only REAL Hummer). People think of Hummers as the perfect alternative minivans and the "it" machine. My own native Texan, *McLaren* basically knows what Texas is like with Hummers. Like every 2 in 5 people or every 3 in 5 have one. I've gotten sick of them myself. Either it's the presence of dopey people wanting something cool to go around in, or people who think they are too good for minivans. I'm still okay with my mother's mid-1990s GMC Safari (she wants an Infinity QX56).

I personally think the novelty wore off for me with Hummers. Make a consumer-friendly version of a military-spec vehicle. It worked pretty damn well these past years. Now this dragon needs to be slain. Is there a dragon slayer in the house?
 
Just how much could that H2 with the truck bed haul? I've seen a few, and they never had any payload in the back, likely because it was a bad idea for people who have nothing to carry that they don't mind exposed to the Elements (and CR-Vs, too).

H2 and H3s are in great numbers down here, too. I actually don't mind them; it used to be I looked for Buicks when I knew I needed to find a gap in traffic. But now I look for Hummers, what with those blistering 10-second 0-60 times, I'm quite sure I'll find a way in their lane, if need be.
 
Honestly, I've gotten sick of Hummers (except the H1 - the only REAL Hummer). People think of Hummers as the perfect alternative minivans and the "it" machine. My own native Texan, *McLaren* basically knows what Texas is like with Hummers. Like every 2 in 5 people or every 3 in 5 have one. I've gotten sick of them myself. Either it's the presence of dopey people wanting something cool to go around in, or people who think they are too good for minivans. I'm still okay with my mother's mid-1990s GMC Safari (she wants an Infinity QX56).

I personally think the novelty wore off for me with Hummers. Make a consumer-friendly version of a military-spec vehicle. It worked pretty damn well these past years. Now this dragon needs to be slain. Is there a dragon slayer in the house?

Nah, It should just be an HMMVV, and left at that. the Jeep worked. This one didn't. Heck, wiht all the extra capacity from civillian Hummers, they could afford to make some armor for these trucks they're sending to Iraq.

Enough poltics, THe H2 and H3 Didn't get the Jeep-like off-road following G.M. was looking for, and I think the Hummer fad is just about over, with fuel prices rising overall.
 
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I'm sick and tired of these stupid idiotic vehicles. The world does NOT NEED ONE MORE SUV. I mean Jesus H Christ there are plenty enough JUST WITH GM OR FORD ALONE!
 
Enough poltics, THe H2 and H3 Didn't get the Jeep-like off-road following G.M. was looking for, and I think the Hummer fad is just about over, with fuel prices rising overall.

Crude just dropped below $60 a barrel...don't put the last nail in that coffin yet!
 
Honestly, I've gotten sick of Hummers (except the H1 - the only REAL Hummer). People think of Hummers as the perfect alternative minivans and the "it" machine. My own native Texan, *McLaren* basically knows what Texas is like with Hummers. Like every 2 in 5 people or every 3 in 5 have one. I've gotten sick of them myself. Either it's the presence of dopey people wanting something cool to go around in, or people who think they are too good for minivans. I'm still okay with my mother's mid-1990s GMC Safari (she wants an Infinity QX56).

I personally think the novelty wore off for me with Hummers. Make a consumer-friendly version of a military-spec vehicle. It worked pretty damn well these past years. Now this dragon needs to be slain. Is there a dragon slayer in the house?

As a fellow Texan, I can agree on all points, and confirm the status of the Hummer here. There are at least two H2s at my high school, and also an H3. And there are ALL the obnoxious, bright yellow. There are also are all driven by girls.

Around here, it IS a gas-guzzling look-at-me car. The people who like them drive them, but everyone else has gotten fed up with them.
 
Just how much could that H2 with the truck bed haul? I've seen a few, and they never had any payload in the back, likely because it was a bad idea for people who have nothing to carry that they don't mind exposed to the Elements (and CR-Vs, too).

I don't have an exact number with the H2 SUT, but I would expect it to be a bit less than our Suburban-based Avalanche in which the H2 SUT shares its "Midgate" with. I know that when ours is completely open we have a little bit over an 8' bed that can be completely enclosed. I want to say the H2 SUT's is a bit more narrow, and maybe a foot or so shorter. You could fit a sheet of plywood in there, on its side of course, but you wouldn't be able to keep in enclosed like you would with the Avalanche.

...As for the H3T, it is supposed to be a "true" pickup truck kinda in the vein of the old Jeep Scrambler...

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(My favorite Jeep)

All of this is a way for GM to diversify their market share with Hummer. The more they can appeal to the Jeep-type-folks with larger and similarly efficent vehicles, the more sales they are going to be able to create. Hummer has been talking about doing a Wrangler-fighter for years, and if the H3T is successful, I wouldn't be surprised to see an H4 by the end of the decade...
 
JCE3000GT shown some huge dislike for this thing. I haven't been too fond of SUV's myself. I think if I want any SUV, I'd probably get a Mazda CX-7, Lexus RX400, or something like that. Something that's not attention-grabbing (not to say the Mazda CX-7 is generic) or outlandish. I'd probably even go with that newer Jeep Compass. (Side note: thank you Jeep for showing Houston in ads rather than some overused place like southern California or New York City. FINALLY we get some love down south!) I just think the Hummer has been milked since the H2. I even asked to myself about why someone like me couldn't really fit well into something like this. I'm just not Mr. Big American SUV Driver. I have no ego. I don't think life is too boring for something modest. Some people who think that the Hummer brand has been milked since the H2 probably thinks that this H3 SUT has gone too far. Overstaying its welcome, so to speak. I say that the only real Hummer is the H1 because it's the original bad-ass behemoth. I still have great respect for the H1 because it is a machine for on-road and off-road use. It's also the most capable of almost any SUV in known space. My only problem has been with those who think it's the perfect alternative to "dreaded minivans." Honestly. Is this the ONLY way to go if you have kids and/or a lot of groceries? Is this the best if you don't use a Hummer for towing stuff or tailgate parties? Hummers are pretty jacked up. Being a 6'0" guy, even my skinny frame felt cramped sitting in just about any Hummer. I don't want to work out my legs just to get in or risk falling out and damaging some brain cells. My only problem is something like this... as a daily driver. I'm sorry. I just don't see how it's done. What would be the point in getting something as big as a Hummer and not do anything serious with it? Get a serious vehicle if you have serious needs to be fulfilled with one of these. Otherwise, spend your money elsewhere. Not saying that you should look elsewhere if you don't already have off-road or serious treading to do, just that I don't see this thing as something to enjoy joy riding or telling small car owners to get out of the way while you are King/Queen of the Road. I personally wouldn't want a Hummer. It's just not me. I don't see myself remotely being interested. Nothing to say "why do I have a (Manufacturer) (van/SUV model) when I can have a Hummer Hx?"

Just not convinced. And this isn't going to make things any better. So...

What are the chances (out of 100%) that...

(1.) ...this Hummer H3T will sell wonderfully?
(2.) ...it gets praises and awards in media?
(3.) ...this H3T will get sacked like the Mercury Marauder?

Fire away.
 
All of this is a way for GM to diversify their market share with Hummer. The more they can appeal to the Jeep-type-folks with larger and similarly efficent vehicles, the more sales they are going to be able to create. Hummer has been talking about doing a Wrangler-fighter for years, and if the H3T is successful, I wouldn't be surprised to see an H4 by the end of the decade...
The problem is, though, that the H3 suffers from being larger and less efficient; being the high strung wind bag it is. Any real Jeep ever in the lineup will slaughter the H3 off-road is specced right, yet cost a princely sum less.
And the main problem is that the Wrangler has just been redone to essentially prepare for this "H4" that will so obviously be coming. When it comes out, the Wrangler Unlimited will outsell it 5:1 on a bad day because the H4 will probably start at $25,000 or something to that effect.
 
The problem is, though, that the H3 suffers from being larger and less efficient; being the high strung wind bag it is. Any real Jeep ever in the lineup will slaughter the H3 off-road is specced right, yet cost a princely sum less.
And the main problem is that the Wrangler has just been redone to essentially prepare for this "H4" that will so obviously be coming. When it comes out, the Wrangler Unlimited will outsell it 5:1 on a bad day because the H4 will probably start at $25,000 or something to that effect.

...And I completely agree with you for the most part. All of this is being done so that Hummer can "compete" against Jeep in a more active way, certainly to benefit GM in some unkown way.

I doubt an H3T will out-class say a Toyota Tacoma or Dodge Dakota any time soon, based mostly on the fact that it uses the windbag I5 (despite being enlarged and gaining 20 BHP) and not the rather-strong Atlas 4200 I6. It will be interesting to see how Hummer decides to position themselves in the market, but they are going to have some strong competition to go up against.

...As for the H4, its up in the air. Nothing is "offical" other than GM has been thinking about it since they aquired the brand. I'd say "do it" just because they can, but make it a hardcore Jeep compeditor, say Rubicon levels of equipment, etc.
 
...As for the H4, its up in the air. Nothing is "offical" other than GM has been thinking about it since they aquired the brand. I'd say "do it" just because they can, but make it a hardcore Jeep compeditor, say Rubicon levels of equipment, etc.
But, you see, GM can't market it that way. They made the mistake of selling the H2 as a luxury model because the H1 was expensive. The problem was though, that the H1 was in fact not a luxury model, but rather just expensive to produce. Based on the current company model line, they can't physically sell the "H4" or the H3T against the cars they would compete with bcause they simply cost too much. If they were to sell the "H4" (because it is so obvious that it will be made), there is no way they could sell it at Wrangler prices without causing Cadillac Cimarron-like damage to the brand as a whole. Similarly, there is no way the H3T can be made to compete with the compact trucks of Dodge, Nissan and/or Toyota (the Ranger is garbage, so it is null and void).
 
To be completely honest, I really don't have a good answer for why they are doing this other than "they can, so they will" mentality at GM and Hummer. It isn't a good thing, but apparently there is a market there, somewhere...
 
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