One way to handle punters?

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ramangt40
As we all are sick and tired of punters and I was thinking of something for GT5 in order to decrease punting behaviour.Here it is--

1.In online racing there should be penalty system but rather than slowing you down in the middle of the race they should add 5/10/25 seconds by depending on your penalty after the race to your total time.

2.Or give you a drive through so that you have to come through the pits at reduced speed.

3.Now the punters,I thought of a really good idea,in online races if you receive more than 5/8/10 penalties in short period of time(I am sure pd can decide that) then you should not be allowed to take part in online races for a while again depending on how bad you are racking up penalties and if its get to a point that you can't control your bad habit then you should be banned for ever.

I thought of this idea after I saw it happening on gtplanet,sure someone can moderate the psn network like they do it here on gtplanet and ban people for short/long time or permanently depending on the pattern of there bad driving.

In the end a happy and clean driving to everybody,sorry for my english.
 
The trouble is though a lot of the punters do it just to piss others off, they don't care if they get a penalty because they are just trying to ruin everyone elses game. So the innocents are still worse off.
 
If you punt twice in a race, you should be suspended from online for a period of time. Do it again, get warned as well as a longer suspension. Repeat it once more, punter gets banned.
 
sumbrownkid
If you punt twice in a race, you should be suspended from online for a period of time. Do it again, get warned as well as a longer suspension. Repeat it once more, punter gets banned.
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That would be hardcore, everyone would probably eventually end up being banned due to an accidental hit that GT5 assumes to be a punt, like it sometimes does at the moment.

I feel the way this is going to be solved is with Private races like people having being begging for, for ages now.

Edit: No doubt there will be a number of Gtplanet lobbies i hope:gtpflag:, and a kick/ban system put in place.
 
Surely the punter will just make another account on their PS3 with a different online ID if they get banned...?
 
letdown427
Surely the punter will just make another account on their PS3 with a different online ID if they get banned...?
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The way to get around that is if an unchangable PS3 ID ( partial code of the PS3) is shown at the start of every race, so when the online system recognises it a warning flashes up on the screen giving you an option to ban the PS3 ID from the races, that would work.
 
I really, really don't like the idea of anyone being permanently banned for anything. I was once suspended from PSN for a month because I let my friends screw around in PS Home.

Nowadays, I'm much more careful, but still, it could happen to someone else. I don't mind suspensions, but a permanent ban? Ouch! I think that might be a bit rough.

And I do like the idea of multiple punts kicking you out of the race, not 2 though. Well, not 2 for the longer races. I think it really should depend on how long the race is. If I hit one person at the start because they went for coffee or something and forgot to hit the gas pedal when the game told them to, and then hit another person when they ram into me on the first curve, I really don't want to have to worry about not touching another vehicle for the rest of a 10 lap race.

In any case, I think it will just be important that PD really stays on the ball for this one. Private races will help a lot, but nonetheless, they need to stay in touch with their community so that the public online races will be clean and stay that way. In no way will it be perfect, but they better try for perfection anyways.
 
Private lobbies, Time and speed penalty (adjustable), have an option to immediately vote out, and possibly an option with a pre-race setting to set number of allowed punts before being ejected from the race. In the end the best option is just to play with friends or in private lobbies.
 
I'm sorry, as much as I hate "punters", you cannot expect them to be banned for it. They bought the game like you or I, and to then say to them "If you want to play you must play like so" is just wrong. If someone wishes to use their own game and play bashing, no one can stop them. If you really want proper clean racing private lobbies are really the only solution. No one has the right to run a dictatorship online.
 
Why not "Collisions off' option so cars acting like ghosts. It's working great for example in Test Drive Unlimited. Host of the game set this option. I don't know if it's available for other racing games but in TDU everyone plays with "Collisions off" now and no punters anymore.
 
iRacing uses a rather nice system where you must deserve and gain point of not hitting other cars.

If you don' t, you will go up the classes.

The trouble ofcourse is that in the lowest classes you will have some idiots, but by using stuff mentioned above they can be banned 2-3 week.
Could make a great and satisfing race experience for me
 
Punting is less of a problem now in the expert events but in intermediate and beginner events everyone take shortcuts and they hit each other.

A race with collisions off is not a race. It feels like a time trial but with other people at the same time. so it doesn't resolve the problem. The solution ? Private rooms and restrict higher events with licences (C,B,A IA,IB.....) that you must get through to participate.
 
I always thought this would be a good idea. Each user gets a grade on how clean their driving is. "A" users would obviously be some of the cleanest racers around. "F" users would be those typical idiot punters. Then make it an option when making a race to have a requirment of a certain grade.
 
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One of the problems with punters & penalty is how the game differs a punter who is doing it on purpose in order to hurt other drivers, between a driver who's done it mistakenly (or maybe he is just a not-so-good-driver).

iRacing has their own system, but keep in mind that iRacing is a payment method, so usually people will not pay just to ruin others' races, they pay because they indeed want to race.

Ghost racing is a very bad idea - if you like it you can play "Track-Mania" were all the cars are ghosts and you just play against the clock - not fun at all :grumpy:

The best would be a good damage system in which bad drivers/punters won't be able to continue the race. In this scenario, slowly slowly, there will be less punters coming to the online races.
More over, I think that participation in online races must cost money (using GT credits) - let's say 1000 credits for example. In this method, a punter will lose the race (car is totally damaged for that race) and will lost money - because the participation cost him money - so he must earn back the money.
 
One problem with banning/penalties is how the game determines who the punter is and who is the punted. I'd hate to get crosses against my name because someone decided to swerve into me several times in a race. Then you have genuine mistakes which result in a crash from an otherwise clean driver.
 
Demon Drone
I always thought this would be a good idea. Each user gets a grade on how clean their driving is. "A" users would obviously be some of the cleanest racers around. "F" users would be those typical idiot punters. Then make it an option when making a race to have a requirment of a certain grade.
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Thats funny because I was just thinking that myself as I was reading down the list of post. Having a "grade" or "ranking" system implemented along with private lobbies or rooms would be the best bet. It would nice if win/loss ratio was posted next to your name in the lobby/room before the race so you can kinda get an view on the skill level of the chaps your racing with.
 
The game should put into account the speed you punted the guy. If it's just a 5 mph bump, then no problem. If it was 10 mph and up, then the car should be slowed down for a amount of time. Braking should taken into consideration as well, since it's easier to determine if the punter even decided to use the brakes accordingly, or even at all.
 
sumbrownkid
The game should put into account the speed you punted the guy. If it's just a 5 mph bump, then no problem. If it was 10 mph and up, then the car should be slowed down for a amount of time. Braking should taken into consideration as well, since it's easier to determine if the punter even decided to use the brakes accordingly, or even at all.
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If PD includes the correct engine notes you'll hear the car accelerate :).
 
Damage can be a nice leash on punters. They would compromise their cars permanently.

I can handle damages to my future earned cars, but i would accept if it was because of an honest mistake.

Someday i went into the grass right before first corner at suzuka and hit the car in front of me. Later i msg him for apologies (as we both went into gravel), and thats ok -- a true gentlemen's sport.

<-- my avatar: the gentleman.
 
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Well i think if we have a number of GTplanet lobbies there should not be a big problem, we could have a hall of shame thread for any GTplanet punters and you should only be allowed to join the lobby if your a GT member. And to further refine the problem and perhaps make it non-existant, have a lobby dedicated to GTP premium and subscription members, then people if they want will be able to subscribe to GTP and benefit from almost guaranteed clean racing. This will do great favors for the site and GTP community as a whole, and give people an enticing reason to subscribe:idea:.
 

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