Open Lobby Rooms Repeat. Why?

[dudeondacouch]

Ok, I'm sick of this non-sorting Open Lobby "randomness." Am I pushing the triangle button the wrong way?

Can anyone explain to me why the rooms repeat themselves in identical sets with 4 iterations no matter what kind of sorting I use?

If I know for a fact that there's a room at a certain track, when I filter the rooms by that track, why doesn't the room show up no matter how many times I "refresh list"?

An example of what I get:

Sort 1: 0 rooms
Sort 2: 0 rooms
Sort 3: 2 rooms (We'll call them "A" and "B")
Sort 4: 4 rooms (We'll call them "C", "D", "E", and "F")
Sort 5: 0 rooms
Sort 6: 0 rooms
Sort 7: 2 rooms ( "A" and "B")
Sort 8: 4 rooms ("C", "D", "E", and "F")
Sort 9: 0 rooms
Sort 10: 0 rooms
Sort 11: 2 rooms ("A" and "B")
Sort 12: 4 rooms ("C", "D", "E", and "F")

This happens for EVERY track, EVERY type of race, including an unfiltered search. (Although for an unfiltered search, the numbers are usually along the lines of: 96, 44, 15, 28, 96, 44, 15, 28.... and to infinity, always repeating the same 4 sets. Even leaving the lobby area and re-entering does not re-sort or re-randomize the rooms.

I am surprised this issue has never recieved attention.

 

[dudeondacouch]

Additional notes after further testing:

1. Exiting/Entering Lobby does not change list
2. Turning game Off/On does not change list
3. Signing In/Out of PSN does not change list
4. Turning entire PS3 system Off/On does not change list

I give up. PD fails yet again to provide something that makes any sense.

 

[Morgoth_666]

There's a problem with this? It shows all the rooms. When a room goes down, it goes away. When one is made, it appears. Does it really matter that if it starts on page 3, it stays on page 3 forever?

It is a little odd when searching for something specific so you only get a few results, but switching pages only takes a second or so. I assume that when you change sorting options, everything stays on the same page as if you view the whole list.

 

[dudeondacouch]

It doesn't show all the rooms.

It shows a "random" repeating selection from a server, and even though there are other rooms open, they are never displayed.

Do you really believe that when doing an unfiltered search for all regions, that the 200 or so rooms you get as results are really the only open rooms on the planet? (While I must admit that this is technically possible, I know for a fact that there are open rooms that are not displayed. I've looked through the entire list twice before, only to have to come back to the forum and get the room number and type it in manually to be able to get into a specific race.)

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

If you ever play forza (not the 4 but the 2 and the 3 were awesome in term of conneciton/possibility and room searching. You know how good an online system can be if they put some thought in it. In gt5, online selection and how it works just isnt right. I've had so many bugs online it makes me cry. From deconnection for god no what to beeing stuck at loading when you already did 10 race in a room wiht the same host, to beeing unable to change track or anyhting else for the matter when you're leader etc.

It's like that from the start, they improving it bit after bit I guess.

Again lots of people tend to ask question here like if PD was answering but no. This would be better put in a suggestion thread that we know PD reads and formulate in a way PD dont find it offensive. My 2 cents

 

[dudeondacouch]

You could start 10million threads on the same subject and PD would never see it.

I don't think PD has a single PR employee. And if they do, they don't deal with any countries outside Japan. If they did, there wouldn't be constant radio silence.

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

Umm i've read on the site that PD is actually reading this forum.

Like T10 is reading and even posting on the forzaplanet forum. I'm serious.

I swear I was sure I saw a suggestion thread but apparently it's gone or I can't find it anymore. Anyway <.< No one will be able to answer you here you realized that tho ?

 

[Johnnypenso]

I noticed the repeating pattern when searching lobbies and always wondered what it was based on. Why there aren't more sort criteria I don't know. If the game was more popular online there could be 1000,2000 rooms or more then how would you find anything? Be great to have better sort criteria like PP limits, specific classes of car (GT500etc), tire choice etc. Also be nice to able to fill the text field that provides the host description of the room. There's room for much more text than what you're allowed to use in the room title.

 

[dudeondacouch]

Or simply being able to search for room title text would be IMMENSELY better than what is in place now.

Also be nice to able to fill the text field that provides the host description of the room. There's room for much more text than what you're allowed to use in the room title.

I noticed this too, long ago. It really is hilarious how poorly this was thought out.

 

[ConRollins]

Ok, I'm sick of this non-sorting Open Lobby "randomness." Am I pushing the triangle button the wrong way?

Can anyone explain to me why the rooms repeat themselves in identical sets with 4 iterations no matter what kind of sorting I use?

If I know for a fact that there's a room at a certain track, when I filter the rooms by that track, why doesn't the room show up no matter how many times I "refresh list"?

An example of what I get:

Sort 1: 0 rooms
Sort 2: 0 rooms
Sort 3: 2 rooms (We'll call them "A" and "B")
Sort 4: 4 rooms (We'll call them "C", "D", "E", and "F")
Sort 5: 0 rooms
Sort 6: 0 rooms
Sort 7: 2 rooms ( "A" and "B")
Sort 8: 4 rooms ("C", "D", "E", and "F")
Sort 9: 0 rooms
Sort 10: 0 rooms
Sort 11: 2 rooms ("A" and "B")
Sort 12: 4 rooms ("C", "D", "E", and "F")

This happens for EVERY track, EVERY type of race, including an unfiltered search. (Although for an unfiltered search, the numbers are usually along the lines of: 96, 44, 15, 28, 96, 44, 15, 28.... and to infinity, always repeating the same 4 sets. Even leaving the lobby area and re-entering does not re-sort or re-randomize the rooms.

I am surprised this issue has never recieved attention.

What kind of room? Was it created in the open loby or is it a lounge? A lounge wont show up. Also you may need to check the "show full rooms" button. If the room is full it wont show unless.

But it is an enigma as to how PD displays the rooms. First up, first displayed?
Random? Who knows?

 

[dudeondacouch]

Umm i've read on the site that PD is actually reading this forum.

Yeah, I've also read that bigfoot is real.

What kind of room? Was it created in the open loby or is it a lounge? A lounge wont show up. Also you may need to check the "show full rooms" button. If the room is full it wont show unless.

But it is an enigma as to how PD displays the rooms. First up, first displayed?
Random? Who knows?

Not a lounge, and of course I used the "show full rooms" checkbox. Unlike most people on this forum, I wouldn't have posted this thread if I hadn't exhausted all the possibilities.

As for how PD "displays" the rooms. I don't think it is generated when you enter the lobby AT ALL. The room lists (complete with member listings, and latency ratings) come up almost instantly. There's no way they're actually being generated when you enter. I'd be willing to be that there's a server that has certain rooms listed for whatever reason, and that's the list everybody sees in that region, no matter how many times they hit "refresh."

The simple fact is, like almost everything in this game (besides graphics,) it's implemented improperly and half-assed.

 

[Obli]

I think it might be a load-balancing thing.

Agree, we need more sorting / filtering options. I'd like to filter a particular PP range, tyre restriction etc.