Overtaking

[VBR]

Reald GT Planet OLR Rules 8:A through to 8:E, click here for a link.

I wrote an article called The Good Racecraft Guide, there's several paragraphs on overtaking & being overtaken, click here for a link.

If you want some video tutorials of good overtaking technique, there's a few in the iRacing Driving School on You Tube (in chapters 7:A, 7:B & 7:C), click here to be taken there.

Hope it helps!




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[Bonzo]

I was in a room the other day with a stranger (just him and I) on Daytona. I drafted and went to pass and it seemed like he nudged me a little and I scraped the wall, just to catch his draft again. The next time I actually did pass him, but it was on one of the banks and I nudged him a little (accidentally; he didn't hit the wall, and eventually passed me again) so when I went to pass him, he slammed into me, and tried to spin me out, so I let off the gas and PIT manouvered him, and then he kicked me out. Awesome.

 

[Johnnypenso]

In my experience, 95% of the people I've raced against in online lobbies have no business being on a race track..lol. Not because they can't drive, although lots of them can't, but because they don't know how to pass clean. Most guys think it's perfectly to bump you at any point during a pass so long as they get by, regardless of the effect it has on you. If everyone read and followed the GTPlanet rules of racing, specifically what the goal is from the start through the first few corners and when you have the right to your lane in a corner, we'd all be much better off.

I do most of my passing two ways. One is on the straightaway. With the exaggerated drafting effects of GT5, you can blow right by someone on the straights of most tracks with no problem. Second way to pass is if the other person makes an error, usually drifting wide in a corner after braking too deep because I'm pressuring them from the back end. When I'm in a room with drivers that are respectful and race clean, I will outbrake someone as well, and have no trouble holding my lane, inside or outside when I do it. If the other person is equally skilled, it doesn't work, if not, you have a chance to get by. If I make contact, which is incredibly rare, I will give way and let them by if it allows me to gain the position.

One other thing I always do is keep my map scale on 2. A quick glance at the map tells you if you are being drafted or outbraked and overtaken, and whether you should take the apex or not, or at least hold your lane. I see lots of guys get parallel with you in a race, but don't bother to hold their line and just let their car drift out on exit, even though you are right beside them.

 

[powell145]

The car attempting a pass is responsible of making the pass clean. The car being passed is responsible of driving predictably (Only change driving line to defend once). The car in front has the right to choose his driving line so no divebombing as the car in front has no way to react. When side by side both cars have to keep their own line, so no pushing the other car out nor cutting on the side of the inside car. Before attempting to pass it's usual in real life to present yourself in the defenders mirrors so he can avoid collision on his part, so don't try to do the pass from too far away (outside of opponent's mirror view).

The most commonly adviced method of passing is to concentrate on corner exit and do the pass on the straight. When trying to outbrake you have to be side by side before the corner entry. If you try to do it from behind that is called divebombing and usually ends up with crashing or if the car in front predicts you, you would probably just end up understeering out of the track and losing your position. (Counterattacking divebombing amateurs can be satisfying )

^^ Agree with this except for the 'divebombing' comment....

Just last night on some decent servers, was playing where I kept ending up in the end of grid at the start (Grid order was set to reverse previous race finish). I was on a roll so I started 3 or 4 races from the back from winning the prev.

Anyway, a couple drivers had NOO IDEA where the proper braking zone was and were WAY early on a couple corners or simply just were braking wrong because I was all over their bumper.... so instead of braking early with them corner after corner I did the so called 'divebomb' pass.

I don't consider it a divebomb pass if you hold the line you gain in the corner (i.e. don't cut across from the inside to the outside if someone is there). My point is there are many times when I'm on someone's bumper, they brake too early, I pull around last second into the corner and hard on the brakes overtaking. Nothing wrong with that if I beat them to the corner and kept my line.

 

[Crazed_Coupe]

Another option if you are having trouble overtaking someone is to pressure them. I did this in a room at The Ring last night. a couple of guys were being really dirty, ramming anyone who came near them. I held my distance and both fell off the track being stupid.

Then I found myself behind a driver that was quite good. i was a little faster but, he was blocking me. Again, I drove well, made no contact and he span off.
The person in front has more to worry about because they have to concentrate more and, keep an eye on you too.

Even though I finished 4th out of 10, it was a wicked race.

Agreed.

A lot of people think that the minute the race starts that they have to overtake everyone in sight and gain the lead, while overtaking people off the start is okay, trying to fight your way to first at the drop of the flag isn't. As long as you race a good, clean, fast, and consistent race, you'll more than likely get the spot you drove hard for and it'll be a much more enjoyable race for you without a doubt. 👍