Parnelli's Online Magazine Thread issue 1 (Sunday Cup racing)

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All the world's indeed a stage, and we are merely players, performers, and portrayers.

Hello and welcome to Issue One of Parnelli's Online Racing magazine. This is a new venture for me as a writer, and who knows how long it will last. "Lol". Today we are going to take notice of something new in the world of virtual racing.

There are all sorts of new things happening in the world of Gran Turimso, of course. The latest iteration of the series (Gran Turismo 5) has certainly captured the imaginations and hearts of many gamers worldwide...and many of us are already looking forward to Forza 4 and even Gran Turismo 6.

But today, I'm writing about something exciting and surprisingly new which is happening right under our Sparco gloves, which has nothing to do with GT5 or either of those future games.

A new race series at GT Planet has just started and is gaining surprising popularity. You might think this series would have something to do with GT5. If so, think a little earlier. Matter of fact, think back...all the way back....to 2004!

"Wait, but isn't GT4 done with? Who would play a past-gen game when there's a brand-new one out of the same series?"
some might ask. "How can we possibly "go back" to an old game in this day and age of online racing, online dealerships, and so-called "Premium" cars? Hasn't it all been done before? Well, not only are we going to "go back", but we are going to witness going back to Gran Turismo 4, and with fresh new approach. An approach which has (amazingly) not been tried before.

A racing driver & entrepreneur going by the name of BH-21 has appeared on the scene as of recently, seemingly from nowhere if we are to judge by his post count. His racing venue is one which has been entered, driven, and tossed aside by many, many gamers as they make their way to GT4 racing glory and lots and lots of credits!

When GT4 was released, it captured many of us for a good long while, just as GT5 has done within the past three four five+ months. GT4 featured hundreds of new cars to play with, and dozens of new tracks, as well. Polyphony Digital, creators of the Gran Turismo series since 1997 (before 1997, actually) managed to push the envelope further with GT4, further than any other racing game of its day (if we're juding sheer content), which had more cars, more tracks, more racing, and more features than many others of its time.

It all started back in 1997 with the original Gran Turismo, which also featured more cars, more tracks, and more features than any other of its time (on consoles, especially). And unlike other games of its era (Need for Speed and Ridge Racer, for instance) the cars in the first Gran Turismo weren't just super sports cars or imaginary fantasy-mobiles, the bulk of them were ordinary passenger cars. Hatchbacks we see on the streets every day. Sedans. Low-powered coupes. Along with a handful of supercars.

Some thought Gran Turismo would fail at the time, yet look at where we are now...

But enough history. I mentioned something earlier about a "new GT4 racing series", one which has taken a look back to 2004, and with a "fresh new approach". One might think BH-21 is rehashing something of great caliber...that he is doing something with GT4's many LMP and Group C racing automobiles. That prospective drivers will be choosing from yet another batch of Minolta Toyotas, Mazda 787Bs, and Audi R8s. Right? Think again!

Oh, well, it's sports cars, then! NSX, Corvettes, and the ever-popular Skylines, all at battle! Yes?

No. We are going back...all the way back....to the Sunday Cup!

That's right! The Sunday Cup. Those lowly events designed to coddle to the very greenest of drivers! But first, some technicalities. BH-21's new series is not actually going to be racing in the Sunday Cup itself; instead, drivers will be taking their shrimpy-powered sleeper-mobiles to the Family Cups. But, these are the sort of cars a new GT4 gamer might enter into the Sunday Cup. Honda Civics, Mazda RX-7s and Roadsters, Mitsubishi Mirages. Cars like that. ORDINARY cars, in other words. The sort of cars many of us see, borrow, and might even possibly own in real-life.

If you think such low-powered races do not offer any excitement (as many gamers have decided to simply blow away the Sundays in pursuit of faster races which can further fatten up their bank accounts) think again. This writer has done many countless Sunday Cup races. Hundreds for sure! Although I would choose even weaker cars for my Sunday Cup races back in the day, there are some things noble about this current series BH-21 has concocted.

1). There is an honor system. Only drivers who have a prior reputation for honesty, truancy, and fair-racing may enter.

2). There is also a budget, a very strict budget.

We're not starting with the 100,000 credits a GT3 gamer can plop down to start his or her game. We're not even starting with 10,000! Instead, drivers get a budget of 5,800 cr to start with. Luck also comes into play early-on, as an extra 200 to 1,200 credits can be added to this. So far, no driver has had a beginning budget of more than a paltry 6,900 credits.

Overall, there's a 42 car & driver field during this first season of Sunday Cup racing. Most of these drivers are nobodys, of course, drivers who race and go home with a few extra credits to their name, perhaps. But there are seven drivers with more of a reputation. These seven are actually all more talented; all seven of them have competed (and succeeded) on much higher levels than Sunday Cup racing, so it's interesting each and every one of them have decided to "go back".

Among this season's notable talent are BH-21, GrumpEone, Car-Less, dogbreath, Jet Badger, Shotamagee, and Skython 11. Hats off to all of them.

It's too early to speculate how things will turn out, as these drivers are basically still sorting out their automobiles for the first set of races at Autumn Ring Mini and the Driving Park Beginner's Course, but stay tuned. I certainly am.
 
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Nice write-up PB. Makes me want to dust off my PS2.
 
Nice write-up PB. Makes me want to dust off my PS2.

Hurry up hurry up! Before you get too far behind in points! :dopey: Might I recommend the Silvia Q's or maybe a Prelude? I don't think anybody has entered one yet. That's probably what I would drive, assuming I could find one cheap enough.

When I joined the Continental Tire Challenge online races last summer, I remember I got an early jump in points in both Grand Sport and Street Tuner classes. smallhorses (wherever he may be) did the preliminary race at Tsukuba along with myself, GT Sail, and a host of others. But he didn't appear for the next race at Autumn Ring.

He was having commitment issues, but once he saw I was leading in both classes, he decided to take me down, at least in GS class. It took him the entire season, but I think in the 2nd to last race he finally passed me in points driving his Nissan 350Z (I was in a new Mustang). Quite the battle!
 
I'm running a Silvia Q's, and the preludes start at 7,640 so are a bit too expensive. If BH-21 will allow another entry, I'd suggest a Mitsubishi FTO GR '94/'97, Toyota MR2 1600G '86 or Toyota Starlet Glanza '97 as the most capable unrepresented cars.
 
Very nice write up Parnelli. Hehe, Car-Less I certainly would of taken a couple of those if I could have afforded them. Hopefully as the season progresses we all will have some more money to play with, but the race gods will kinder to some then others and with seven racers someone will be going home with a mud pie.

Parnelli how is the information I've presented so far? Hopefully its enough for you to work with. 👍
 
Very nice write up Parnelli. Hehe, Car-Less I certainly would of taken a couple of those if I could have afforded them. Hopefully as the season progresses we all will have some more money to play with, but the race gods will kinder to some then others and with seven racers someone will be going home with a mud pie.

Thanks. Hope you noticed the "42 race car field" for the season. I was including all the Artificial Idiots as well as the actual human drivers. ;)

Parnelli how is the information I've presented so far? Hopefully its enough for you to work with. 👍


So far, so good. Initially I was thinking what the heck did I get myself into? But then inspiration (whatever you wanna call it) struck and BAM those paragraphs flowed. I had that Rush song (Limelight) stuck in my head as I wrote it, which is where the "All the world's a stage" bit came up. It seemed to fit since there's gonna be a lot of folks watching this series.

I could never be the commentator, though. :( NOt without something to actually watch. I'd goof that up for sure!
 
Wow, brilliant starter Parnelli. I noticed in the list of names I'm last, YAAAAY, makes me think of when it starts on one side of the group showing them all. They're all normal and then it comes to the last one, who is doing something really stupid (Which is me)
 
Wow, brilliant starter Parnelli. I noticed in the list of names I'm last, YAAAAY, makes me think of when it starts on one side of the group showing them all. They're all normal and then it comes to the last one, who is doing something really stupid (Which is me)

WHAT? Don't think that way. I wrote those last few paragraphs in a hurry, there's no consideration of who was listed last or who was listed first. I just put BH-21 and GrumpEone first because I remembered their names while I was writing in Pagemaker. I had to look up everyone else.

...of course, if you're just being sarcastic, ignore!
 
Hehe, well alphabebtical gets him last two.

Parnelli Bone
Hope you noticed the "42 race car field" for the season. I was including all the Artificial Idiots as well as the actual human drivers.

I hadn't really considered them in the field but merely stand ins for us other competitors or even speed bumps if you will. I know in my first track on Beginners Course one of the Bots gave me a what for.

Ideas
  • Article about the cars involved, their strengths, weaknesses.
  • Favored car and driver or just car or just the driver for a particular circuit based either off the Testing Results or possible upgrades or previous track standings.
  • Article about a points leader going into a circuit championship and any close rivals.
  • Article about individual races, a very hard one to do with the little scraps that people will give you, but based on times you might hash up a fiction.
  • Article or interview with the drivers themselves, could be interesting, but could also be a total bomb.
 
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I feel like a celebrity, oh wait that just makes my lack of pace more public, hehe.

But seriously, well written Parnelli gives the series a bit more depth, kudos to you.
 
Interview with BH-21 at the Beginner Course and the start of the Sunday Cup.
Interviewed by Parnelli Bone

(Written by BH-21)

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Parnelli Bone: What happened out there, on lap one you were coming out of the 2D turn then you went off into the grass?

BH-21: Well, hmm I got a little to close to that other guy or he did me, either way we bumped and I shot off at a bad angle catching the grass. With the car setup I had at the time thats all it took and off I went. I never did really recover from that. I tried something different then I had on the car but it just didn't work. I've been tinkering with the ballast to get the right balance but haven't found that point yet.

Parnelli Bone: You did spend some money before the season started to lighten your car and make it race worthy, do you regret that choice now?

BH-21: Not at all it has helped considerably, not only does it accelerate better then it did before but it corners better now too. This has allowed me to cut the previous ballast in half, again helping the acceleration. As you saw on the Test Course my little Honda CR-X SiR '90 was near last on the 0-400m course.

Parnelli Bone: Do you expect much in this First Circuit?

BH-21: No, not really with the competition this season. My little Honda just will not do well on these short tracks. The 1st Circuit Championship I may get to be a spoiler and have a chance there, but it looks to be a bad week for me.

Parnelli Bone: There you have it folks, BH-21 in his own words.

Parnelli Bone: There's Skython11, Skython11 could I have a few words for the Sunday Cup fans?
(Parnelli Bone moves off after Skython11 further into the pit area.)
 
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^ :lol: Funny, I don't remember giving that interview!

Sorry if it looks like I'm slacking, man. I got other stuff going on...work, gaming, and tonite I have to go into Baltimore and have dinner with some friends, etc. I've got some ideas in mind for this thread, some of them you've mentioned earlier, but I feel weird giving interviews. It's jsut not something I've ever done, if you catch my drift. And some people here know I can be somewhat abrasive sometimes. I feel like if I try to do the interview bit, some folks might think I'm trying to...I don't know. I just feel weird about it. :guilty: But I'm gonna probably write-up the cars and detail some other things you've mentioned, and I have a couple surprises.

When I have time to get to them though. :( Patience!
 
Well in my example others can use you as a character in their write-ups and or interviews. Then you don't actually have to do any, you just feature as a character in their fiction.
 
Well in my example others can use you as a character in their write-ups and or interviews. Then you don't actually have to do any, you just feature as a character in their fiction.

Excellent. I'm glad we understand each other. 👍
 
WHAT? Don't think that way. I wrote those last few paragraphs in a hurry, there's no consideration of who was listed last or who was listed first. I just put BH-21 and GrumpEone first because I remembered their names while I was writing in Pagemaker. I had to look up everyone else.

...of course, if you're just being sarcastic, ignore!

It was more of me taking the piss out of myself, hahahaaa, so it pretty much was sarcasm
 
Underlined means Parnelli is speaking, not underlined is me

Interview with Skython before Beginners Course

Hi, do you have any ti…

Go away, please, I’m in a bit of a pickle at the moment, I need to get the car sorted, because I crashed it in practice, find me after the race

Interview with Skython after Beginners Course

First of all, I must ask, you bought a pretty fast car compared to the others, but why so slow?

Well, I made no modifications, and it’s been awhile since I’ve jumped in a car, or a Front wheel drive for that matter, so I’m just back from what you could call a break.

So you went in without any tuning, why?

I drove it so a photographer could take a photo of it, right, but I decided I like how it drives, and didn’t want to change it.

Didn’t you think of how it would effect your performance?

Naa, I was hoping that if I did well, it would show bigger teams that I can drive, but things didn’t go to plan

Hahahaa, how well do you think you did

Better than I thought to be honest, I always seem to see myself in last.

Well, you’re are near the top, there’s 42 and your in the top 7, so are you happy with that?

Of course, I loved doing these races; almost as fun as the rally I did at home last year. The car’s great, and the finishes are close.

You had some moments though didn’t you?

Yeah, at Beginners course that first corner is a bastard of a corner, especially when overtaking cars around the outside. I struggled through most of the pack in my race, I had none of the true leaders of the race in there, and I still only got 2nd on the final turn, 6th overall.

You did have practice laps didn’t you?

Na, I had one, but I crashed and was working hard to fix it up.

So was that why I couldn’t talk to you before hand

Yeah, I don’t like being talked at before a race if I’m working on the car

I’ll keep that in mind, anyway, why did you enter the series?

Well, I was sent an invitation, and I thought about it, I was like, “oh man, what should I do. I thought, my sister wants to come around on the weekend, but I want to do this, oh who cares, my sister’s horrible anyway, and I entered. I also had to think whether to stick to my rally routes or to try circuit racing. So I went to and accepted the offer

Well, that’s all the time I have, I’ll speak to you later in the series, thanks for your time

Cheers
 
It was more of me taking the piss out of myself, hahahaaa, so it pretty much was sarcasm

Ah. That's cool.

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Round 1, Week 2​

Trying to manage a deal in one is like waiting out in the McDonald's parking lot while your friend takes all your money!


That was my situation yesterday, waiting around while my friend had a good portion of my week's compensation in his pocket, my laptop dying in a parking lot while the official Sunday Cup 2011 results were posted. "The pen is mightier than the sword" goes the old saying. I have no idea who made this phrase up (such research must be figured out by a trip to the Straight Dope, I suppose) but nowadays, certainly the keyboard overrules the sword and the pen.

This season's first set of Sunday Cup events are all run at short tracks traditional to the actual Sunday Cup during this first round of results: Motorland, Autumn Ring Mini, the Driving Park: Beginner's Curse Course, and Twin Ring Motegi's East Course. The results were a bit predictable, yet there were some surprises.

Jet Badger's car, an FC generation '85 Mazda RX-7, dominated during preliminaries. All Sunday Cup vehicles have been accurately tested for 400 meter, 1,000 meter, and top speed runs at the infamous Gran Turismo 4 Test Curse Course. The Mazda ate all three of these tests...good thing points were not alotted during these opening rounds!

A front-drive '97 Mitsubishi Mirage driven by GrumpEone gained 2nd place during the first two tests (400 M and 1,000 M), while a '93 Honda Civic driven by Skython11 made 3rd, also during these first two tests. Top Speed testing mixed up the results further: the RX-7 pushing just under 150 mph, with BH-21's '90 Honda CR-X making 2nd, GrumpEone's Mitsubishi Mirage makind 3rd, and Skython falling slightly behind the others in 4th.

So it's not really a surprise to see Jet's RX-7 leading points so far during the actual race. I expected this. I actually expected rear-drives to dominate front-drives, but overall, it looks to be more of a horsepower war, rather than a drivetrain war, as the RX-7 is rated at 185, followed closely by GrumpEone's Mirage (175). A couple others are rated at 160 (both Hondas).

So the Mazda is leading points, and Jet Badger has had a taste of some bubbly water (as Gran Turismo federation is too cheap for actual champagne in these amateur-level races) twice now.

The spoiler here is the Nissan Silvia Q's driven by Car-less. Rated at just 140 hp, the Silvia has managed 1st place at Autumn Ring Mini (AMR for short), and 2nd at Motorland and Twin Ring Motegi. Actually, AMR happened to favor cars without horsepower, it seems, as the weakest car of the field, shotamagee's 118 horsepower '89 Mazda MX-5, gained 2nd place here less than a second after the Silvia. Jet Badger, of course, took 3rd spot at AMR, his crew awarded a few paltry credits + a case of Hamm's beer. :cheers:

Jet has had little to say on his early dominance, merely a few suggestions about tweaks to the rules. GrumpEone was a little more vocal. He's been quoted as saying...

...But the FR's scare me, I thought of going with the RX-7 but was beaten to it, so I went with Mirage, and shortly after I regret the choice.

....yet he's currently following the Jet Badger's RX-7 in points, and very closely so. It's front-drive versus rear-drive. This could get ugly folks!

Skython11, who placed well during preliminaries at the Test Curse Course, yet hasn't done so well (yet) in the races, made this quote, speaking in his New Zealand accent...

I'm gonna tune this week, use some moneys to keep up

.."moneys" eh? Sounds like dedication to me. Skython11 also had this to say, apparently having overslept before that first race at the Beginner's Course in Ohio:

Oh woops, I completely forgot about this

After the race at Autumn Ring Mini in Pennsylvania...

I'm feeling a bit slow, I haven't fired up the car in a long time, I've been doing other things, so a change from RWD to FWD, and being absent of lightweight gutless cars was scary... But fun
I went with no tuning, no changes, it may be a bad call :scared:

At Autumn Ring I had fun. I passed the leading Mazda on the final turn of lap 2, same thing at Twin Ring, great fun

Certainly, he knows what to do with low-powered cars, as he won at that race.


From Car-less, winner of Autumn Ring Mini, and runner-up at Driving Park: Motorland and Twin-Ring Motegi, we have...

Well then;

...Despite a rather nice payout from the previous round I elected to make no changes to my car for this week as I think the money would be better used as part of a larger upgrade later on.

*snip*

Note to self: Ensure I am properly rested before commencing next weeks events.


Interestingly he's opting to keep his team's bank account in check as the races head for Hong Kong!

Aussie driver shotamagee in the sluggish MX-5 had this to say....

Bots so far are ok, I won my "practice" races fairly easily once I knew how they behaved, the fact that my car was close to, if not the fastest on the straights, meant I pretty easily (RWD vs mainly FWD helps) carved em up through the corners.

....and this seems certainly so, as the rear-drive MX-5 placed well at AMR, Motoland, and TWM, yet has yet to make a win. As of yet, shotamagee hasn't announced any official upgrades of horsepower; certainly his car would make even better results if this were so.

dogbreath
and 2011 GT4 Sunday Cup inspiritor BH-21 are running 6th and 7th place, respectively, ahead of a slew of other drivers lesser-known. These thirty-five other drivers, despite their habit of dirty-driving (body-slamming, blocking, occasional punts and such), have all had their asses handed over for sure. Skill performs best over scruples, apparently.

Stay tuned folks, as this writer is signing off, a cup of Earl Gray tea + honey and crysanthmum (sp?) leaves to nurse his achy body...
 
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Nice, thats the kind of interplay and foreshadowing of up coming events that will make this thread shine. As soon as I get the results from a round figured, I will post them as soon as possible.

P.S. Parnelli if you need anything else from me just holler.
 
Nice, thats the kind of interplay and foreshadowing of up coming events that will make this thread shine. As soon as I get the results from a round figured, I will post them as soon as possible.

P.S. Parnelli if you need anything else from me just holler.

Okay. I"m like hungover kinda at the moment. :ouch: So it's amazing I'm writing at all today! Yee haw!
 
Jet Badger is a driver from abroad with quite limited english, so he usually quietly stands in the corner and learns driving secrets from professional drivers :)

One thing that I remember from the Beginner course, is that I hit the PIT enterance barrier after a not friendly push from AI :)
 
Boggish accent, ahahahahaaa. By the way, I'm from New Zealand so if you don't mind, could you please change that at some point (I'm trying be as unparty pooper as I can here)
 
Boggish accent, ahahahahaaa. By the way, I'm from New Zealand so if you don't mind, could you please change that at some point (I'm trying be as unparty pooper as I can here)

No, not a problem. I wanted to write your accent down as whatever it actually is, but you put you're from a bog or something.
 
Below, a quick but in-depth interview with one of the Sunday Cup Drivers, this one being Skython11, driving this season for Honda in a '93 Civic SiR-II


...anyways, you mentioned after your final race in Japan that you were "sticking with Honda". Did you have any doubts about your ride at one point?


Skython11: Yeah, I've never been a fan on Honda, or Japanese cars in general usually saying they've only ever created 2 or so very good cars, so I felt the car would be very slow and dull but it delivered a better package. It's showing me what Japanese cars are designed to do.


You've spent $1,000 each on a racing engine chip and had some weight removed. Do you think this will improve your chances for a win?

Skython11: Yeah, maybe not a win, but definitely a improvement. The car feels a hell of a lot faster now, and even lighter on its toes than before. I can hope for a win, but that's still a slim chance with some of the slow runners I was facing.

You mentioned you "almost completely forgot about this" before one of the four Sunday Cup races. It's been rumored you overslept and almost didn't make it to one of the tracks. Can you clear up the mystery for us?


Skython11
: Naa, it's a random rumor, I wasn't sleeping but was addicted to cooking random things on the BBQ to be honest, I got a lot done around that point. I did almost oversleep it though. Lucky the neighbors band practice woke me up. Lucky I left too because man they are killing classic songs there, yesterday they were killing Fleetwood Mac, the shame. Hahahaa

Lots of race drivers have complained about various races at Hong Kong...calling its streets over-complicated to drive, difficult to navigate, and most drivers generally do not like this course. What's your feeling on Hong Kong?

Skython11
: I'm feeling confident that I can do better than I did at the previous tracks. I have 173 HP now, and I think 990 something KG's of weight to lug around, it's quite light. I feel other drivers have quite heavy cars, particularly I notice big saloons and coupe's, which are abut 1200 KG, so I'm feeling confident with power/weight. My prediction is that I'm 5th or below here.

I've always had trouble at street circuits. And this is no different, on the first lap I had a few seconds lost when hitting the inside of the turn. I'm just happy I'm not in a faster car, otherwise I'd be in a coma in the hospital right now.

Finally, what's your feeling in general about the Sunday Cup?

Skython11: It's been fun, I'm not under pressure from anyone to win, and it's all a bit more laid back. I feel I'm the most unprepared of the series, I reckon I have the smallest amount of equipment for racing. BUT, I definitely have the biggest food supply, as I'm focusing on cooking food on the BBQ between races. I tried putting an apple on there the other day, man that was nasty, not trying BBQ'd fruit again. But yeah, I'm feeling confident that I made a good choice and that I can do quite well here

(forced laughter): ha ha ha, well, okay, I'll be sure to check up on that barbecue myself, then.
 
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