Parnelli's Online Magazine Thread issue 1 (Sunday Cup racing)

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Did you like the "forced laughter" bit? :) It always seems interviewers, weather people, sports newscasters, etc. have this forced laughter. A-huh-huh-huh. Know what I mean?

If anybody else wants an interview, just PM me or ask for one publicly in this thread or the Sunday Cup one. I feel weird just PMing people a bunch of questions..

...but I will give you an interview, BH-21. :) That's coming for sure in the next day or two.
 
Ok, looking forward to it. I'm still laughing at Barbequed fruit! :)
 
Ok, looking forward to it. I'm still laughing at Barbequed fruit! :)

Trust me, you don't want to deep fry them either

HOW DARE YOU FORCE LAUGH PARNELLI!!!! jokes, I know what you mean with what the news people and stuff do

Anyway, Parnelli. Don't feel weird to do it, they'll understand why you're doing it, so DON'T FEEL WEIRD AND INTERVIEW PEOPLE :D
 
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Parnelli: What's going on there BH-21. Boy is it humid today, is Hong Kong always like this? :)

BH-21: This is my first time to Hong Kong. I've heard a lot about it especially from old kung-fu movies. As for humid, come back to southeast Missouri some time in July or August then we can talk about humid.

(editorial note: Maryland might just beat ya there!)

Parnelli: Anyways, let's get started. You know, my mom used to write, edit, and do interviews in my hometown when I was growing up (true) which is where I get my writing genetics. Perhaps that has something to do with my apprehension for giving interviews without consent, because it seems invasive to me or something. But I want to thank you for your cooperation here.

Um. So as the organizer of this set of races, what made you decide to start this series, why the Sunday Cup? Why a bunch of slow cars instead of some of this game's faster, sportier models?


BH-21: Your welcome!

I like to race and well I've been watching this show called Top Gear where they compare various cars in a certain category.

As for the Sunday Cup it was one of my favorite venues in a computer game called Gran Turismo 4.

Well the reason I went with cheap cars to start as well its kind of a proof of concept for racing this way, once its proved we can do a league for just about any class or type of car or vehicle available it just depends on have interested particpants. The racing field could be as large as it can be even 100 drivers, but I wouldn't want to admin that. I also wanted the first round to feature some strategy, do you go big horsepower early on a limited budget and be stuck with that car all the way through or do you save your pennies and get something later for the real money in the third circuit.

Parnelli: Do you own a copy of GT5? If so, why start a series in GT4?


BH-21: No I do not, or do I see me buying one at anytime in the near future even if I wanted to. I don't live in town and there isn't any broadband internet here so it would be pointless in getting a game machine and game that is so dependent upon conectivity to the net.

Parnelli: I see. You are fairly new here at GTP, I see you joined in December of 2010. Have you posted at other sites as well? Other virtual racing sites, that is?


BH-21: No, I've not posted to any racing sites. I have to other non-racing sites back as far as 1998. The reason I'm a late comer to GT4 is that I used to be solely a PC gamer with occasional bouts of console gaming with friends over the years. Last year though someone gave me their PS2 as they didn't want it anymore and it didn't have any games with it so I went to the local Gamestop and found a copy of GT4 for $10. I didn't play the game from the start, it sat in the stack. I didn't pick it up and start a career till september of 2010 and it has rarely been out of the PS2 since that time.

Parnelli: Yes, I loved GT4 myself, I can certainly relate!

Can you give us a short biopsy on your racing history? Have you been involved with other racing games, other than Gran Turismo 4?


BH-21: Oh yes, I've been into racing for some time, but its been an off and on affair over the years. One of the first games I bought was for the Commodore 64 and its been so long ago I've forgotten the title. I know it was an F1 racing game, I also had a Racing Cycle one as well. Over the years I dabbled in Indy Car and other F1 games, but never NASCAR. It never really appealed to me.

Parnelli: What does BH-21 stand for? I'm guessing 21 is your age?


BH-21: Actually no, its not my age, which would be double that. It is the model number for a French Combat Walker from a game called 2300AD that came out back in 1986 originally called Traveller 2300 by Game Designers Workshop.

Parnelli: A huh-huh huh (forced laugh) let's get back to the Sunday Cup. How confident do you feel with your ride at Hong Kong?


BH-21: Well, I'll tell you not to good. My only hope here is to not come in last again, that really hurt the ole pocketbook you know. That Jet Badger guy seems to be the favorite from everyone I've talked to.

Parnelli: Ah, but Jet has spoken publicly on some of his own doubts about his driving, so don't give up yet!

I was talking to one of the other drivers about Hong Kong, and how most drivers despise this track (along with Paris/Opera district and a couple others). So let me ask: Do you like Hong Kong as a track? Why Hong Kong for this week's focus?


BH-21: As a track, I like it, especially with low power cars. The reason for Hong Kong is the league had several options and this was the one (the dice picked) that worked out. Its a tough course to pass on, but rewarding when you do. Running it in the evening under the city lights just makes it more dramatic.

Parnelli: Well huh-huh-huh thank you, BH-21! I've always loved Hong Kong myself. It's so scenic! So challenging!

This has been Parnelli Bones, race driver and GT4 Sunday Cup media consultant, signing off! Now back to you, Ken...


BH-21: Thanks for having me onnnn.......!

(Cut to Black)
 
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Good write up Parnelli, and good job BH-21 for keeping on-topic, unlike me :p
 
Good write up Parnelli, and good job BH-21 for keeping on-topic, unlike me :p

Believe me it wasn't anything I planned to do. I'm usually a pretty boring person.
 

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Sunday Cup 1st Circuit Championship

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If anybody else wants an interview, just PM me or ask for one publicly in this thread or the Sunday Cup one. I feel weird just PMing people a bunch of questions..

Feel free to PM me for an interview, if you would like. I think our sponsor requires us to be available to the media, I'll have to re-check the contract to be sure :lol:, BH-21 should know the rule on that one as the organizer.
 
This media stuff is purely voluntary, its for those that want to add some dimension and roleplay to the season.

Beware the BBQ! ;)
 
Only two words plopped into my head when this showed up

"Oh cock"
 
This media stuff is purely voluntary, its for those that want to add some dimension and roleplay to the season.

I thought attending the post race press conference was mandatory. :)
 
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A silvery Honda in the pit area at Tsukuba is hoisted up by the air jacks in the floor of BH-21's work area. The sound of humming and clinking of metal on metal is coming from under the open engine comparment in the front of the car.

Passing by the pit area, just returning from the soda machine is GrumpEone in his work coverals.

GrumpEone: Hey BH, what you up to under there?

BH-21: Hmmmm, hmmmm, hhhhmmmm! Clang!

GrumpEone moves in closer taking a swig from his cold soda before speaking again.

GrumpEone: BH, what are you doing?

BH-21: I'm trying to find them damn horsepower thingys under here. I've looked and looked but I can't find any more of them things. It is still only putting out 160 hp.

In the distance in another pit work area an engine is revved up pretty high making lots of noise.

BH-21: (Talking louder over the noise.) That Jet Badger is feeling his oats after winning the First Circuit with his 185 hp. Just listen to that Mazda purr.

GrumpEone: Yeah, I thought I had them too. I only got the one gold cup though. My Mitsubishi has been giving me problems too. I think Skython11's been muttering to himself all day about his Civic. Its hard to tell, but at least he throws a mean barbeque.

BH-21: Man, we got slaughtered by those rear wheel drives' at Hong Kong and the 1st Circuit Championship. Every time we would gain on them in a straight they would leave us behind a little more in the corners and there's a lot of damn corners on that Hong Kong track.

GrumpEone: You're not lying there.

GrumpEone: If you find any more horse power under there let me know, I need some too? I will see you later I have troubles of my own sitting right over there. (He points to his Mitsubishi sitting in the work area just across access way.)

Several other cars nearby begin revving their engines as adjustments are made, then tried out, then readjusted.
 
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Hahaa, I was laughing, how did you know I'm that guy who talks to himself :scared: 👍
 
Thx for the thread tip Parnelli. Best of luck to alll involved though I'm secretly pulling for my first GT4 car which was an S13
 
Diabolicwyvern your only a hunderd miles north of me. In a Toyota 88 C-V Race Car '89 your only 23 minutes away on I-55. ;)
 
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Thx for the thread tip Parnelli. Best of luck to alll involved though I'm secretly pulling for my first GT4 car which was an S13

I gave a thread tip? When was that?
 
You mentioning the Sunday Cup was my tip to check out the thread :)

@BH--I think 100 miles due south would be arkansas..perhaps you are slightly southwest? I'm at Exit 201A off I-55
 
Its much further to Arkansas then 100 miles from St. Louis, like about another 90 miles. The exits around here are in the 90s.
 
The furthest south I've been is Jackson, MO and I was only there for high school cross country meets. (that was 12 years ago now :ouch:)
 
Dang, I'm so far behind with this. :( I gotta actually sit down and study what's going on. Fortunately I got 2 days off in a row. That helps
 
Well I think everyone but Skython11 and BH-21 are just dying to be interviewed. They really want their sunday cup characters imortalized in print or was that doused with a pint of beer. I forget, it was after last weeks drubbing in Hong Kong. The memory of that time after the race is a bit hazy you know.
 
Parnelli Bone (off the record): You can participate if you want, or not. I don't mind either way. If you don't I won't post (this) publicly

By the way....close ratio transmission. Try that! If you've got the money for it, that is. I've found the CR transmission is actually a better upgrade during slower events than a power boost sometimes. [/off the record, but (GE1 apparently doesn't mind if this gets aired)]

That was my plan, but I thought the initial testing round was for points and prize CR, which is kinda why I chose the Mirage, I figured it would give me a good jump start in CR, being the best Weight/HP ratio. So much for the plan of getting the '97 Camaro Z28 Coupe or '97 MR2 GT-S by Week 5.

Now I'm thinking the best place for the Mirage, is to be pushed off a pier.



*Tape Recorder On*

Parnelli Bone: I apologize for not getting to you in Hong Kong. You were actually next on my list.

As you know, I was robbed on the day results got posted. I'm not sure what reporting a crime would have been like when Hong Kong was a British colony, but under Chinese rule, dealing with the paperwork can be a nightmare, even for such a petty theft as the one I had to deal with. Have you ever been robbed?

I have never been robbed in person, but I have been stolen from twice. Once at the apartments I was doing building maintenance at, the building manager stole my huge industrial exhaust fan I had locked up in the storage room, and sold it to a tenant. At the same building in Hamtramck (in-burb of Detroit), I had a '85 Buick Century stolen and taken for a joy-ride, then they ran it into a wall on the freeway, and doused it in gasoline, but they must of gotten spooked, because they never torched it; Luckily so, I was able to recover my $1,300 in tools from the trunk at the impound lot, even though the car itself was a lost-cause.

I have though been robbed by mother-nature, in the sense that I lost everything I owned, my place of living, my transportation, and the ability to make it to my job (so my job too), thanks to a Tornado that hit Hamtramck in July of 1997.

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The upper loft was where my sister, two roommates and I were living. Three of us (including me) were in that building when hit by the Twister.





Parnelli Bone: Oh my goodness! Yea, I merely was approached by this thug, who asked for my money. I had no idea if he had a weapon or not, but he was wearing one of those "hoodies". He had the look. I was not about to argue...:scared:

Well that was my story. Hence, here we are a week later after results have been posted and I've had to chase you all the way here to Japan, here at the Twin Ring Motegi circuit. What are your thoughts on this particular race? I'm seeing you placed 2nd here.

This is one of the few races that the Mirage can compete in, as it can stay above 2nd Gear the whole race, and let that power/weight ratio work. I've always liked this simple little oval track.


Parnelli Bone: We're off to Seoul this week, which demands a much less hectic schedule. This track is comprised of long straight sections, but just four true corners and a roundabout. Do you think such a "track" will favor the Mirage's gearing a bit better?[/QUOTE]

I don't know, the straights help, but anywhere I drop to the low-end of 2nd, I lose time over the competitors. This happens like 5 or 6 times on this track, so I'm not so sure the straights will make the difference. My prediction is 4th if I'm lucky.



Parnelli Bone: I've been in the habit of wondering how people choose their name. Everyone's got a story. Parnelli Bone, for instance, is a play on words for one of my childhood racing heros: Parnelli Jones. So the question on my mind *a-huh huh huh* why so grumpy?

My nickname comes from when I was around 20 years old, I started getting into computer graphics, and came up with the name of a company I wanted to start "Grumpy Graphics", inspired by a simple little image I made poking fun at the "have a nice day" Smiley face.
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Grumpy seemed a good fit, as I've always had a skeptical, bordering on cynical demeanor, and can tend to be very contrary. The handle GrumpEone came from setting up an free email account around the same time-frame as the logo, Grumpy and Grumpy1 were already taken, so I tried GrumpEone and it just kind of stuck. Still to this day most places I setup a username, GrumpEone is still available.

It's better than my previous handle used in my teenage years BBS'ing (back when the internet was still a Military and Educational resource only), Then I was known as "The Polock", and yes the mis-spelling was intentional.




Parnelli: A-huh-huh well that certainly explains it then! :D

I started racing virtually years ago (in 1982) when I discovered Activision's Enduro on the Atari 2600. A far cry from Gran Turismo, indeed. So what got you involved in virtual racing?

My virtual racing career stems back to an old Apple II game made by origin systems called Autoduel (more car killing than racing), followed by some MS-DOS games like Street Rod and it's sequel, the Test Drive Series, and who can forget Deathtrack. Also one of my favorite early console games Mario Andretti Racing on the Sega Genesis



Parnelli: You've been a member of GT Planet's federation of drivers for some time now. Compared to BH-21 and the others, I think you've had the longest reputation of post counts. How did you come about your official invite into the Sunday Cup series, then?

Well, I befriended BH-21 during the time when he was setting up his Time Benchmark thread, through offering ideas, and participating in his testing. That quickly spun off the Stock and Extreme Benchmark challenges, which only the Extreme remains, due to the amount of questionable times submitted for the Stock version.

Also BH-21 asked my opinion on his ideas for this Sunday Cup before it was started, along with a few suggestions, I told him something like "there is only one way to find out if it will work, try and run it, and see if it flies", and warned him about those who may try to skirt the rules. So he did the wise thing, to make it an invitational, looking for others who seem to adhere to the rules, and have someone vouch for those he didn't know much about.


Parnelli: hmmm, interesting....

Because of my being a member for a long time here at GTP, I have seen a lot of competitions and competitors, and know just about every cheating method in the book,though I am highly annoyed by cheating in a competition, and/or not adhering to the rules (which is the why I have a Red Card Infraction on record). I think I make a good sounding-board, and decent judge of character for BH-21 to use as a resource.



Parnelli: Very good! It helps to know any cheats, I would agree, just to get a full spectrum of any racing situation. It's like knowing evil along with good, if you know what I mean...anyways...

Jet Badger stormed through the Sunday Cup series early on with his slightly-modified RX-7, yet seems to have faltered a bit with these past few races. It was assumed by some drivers that he would simply blow away every race, yet this seems not to be the case. Any thoughts on who could wind up being a more dominant player as the series progresses?

Well of course Jet Badger is dominant, and Car-less as well has the ability. I'm a little surprised at Dogbreath, I thought he would be higher up there, but I wouldn't count him out or Shotamagee either for that matter.

All us with the FF's will have a hard time as these tracks get longer with more turns, where the FR's can carry more speed through turns, where the FF's just lose speed and traction on the turns. Our only hope is for the resale values to go up, so we can replace our poor drivetrain choices. (but I already think I voiced that opinion)




Parnelli: Well, good luck with that. :dopey: Let's end with a softball, huh-huh-huh. :) Skython11 got involved in barbecuing during one of the earlier races, and almost missed a deadline due to his charcoal shenanigans. Did you try any of his roasted food? Including the dreaded pieces of apple?

Skython11 was kind enough to offer me some of his BBQ'd Chicken, after my poor showing at Hong Kong. He told me to eat something, when he found me kicking my fender and cussing out my car in disgust.

Then I showed him a trick with spraying lemon juice on the chicken while on the grill, and throwing a couple pineapple slices on top about a minute before it's done, Skython11 loved it. So much for never using fruit on the BBQ, but that char-coaled apple was pretty nasty, so I threw it at my car -with the rest of the garbage.




Parnelli: huh-huh-huh Okay, then GrumpEone, hope you're not so grumpy next time, a-huh-huh-huh. This has been Parnelli Bones, Twin Ring Motegi, Japan.

It's been a pleasure, Parnelli Bones... Grumpy is not a feeling... It's a way of life!:grumpy:
 
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LOL! :) Now I know why GrumpEone and I get along so well. I so remember some of those games too.

That tornado damage looked pretty bad, around here we are quite familiar with them, but haven't really had a deadly one since the early 2000s. Mother nature has tried though, like last month.
 
LOL! :) Now I know why GrumpEone and I get along so well. I so remember some of those games too.

That tornado damage looked pretty bad, around here we are quite familiar with them, but haven't really had a deadly one since the early 2000s. Mother nature has tried though, like last month.

Yea, that's so harsh. I couldn't imagine living in the midwest, knowing any day....:scared::nervous: We hardly ever get tornadoes in Maryland.
 
Hahahaa, that tip WAS helpful. I never thought about mixing them together to make awesomeness, I just did it separately and burnt stuff :dopey: I still wanted to eat that apple you know ;)

PS: If you get a clean grill, and put it above the engine, it heats up too, it's just in case you want a barbeque without a a barbeque ;)
 
editorial note: I'm in the habit of pretending the Autumn Ring motor course is located in the Appalachian mountains of western Pennsylvania...

*interview starts*

Here we are in sunny western Pennsylvania...just an hour outside of Pittsburgh. Funny how the leaves are all brown, yet it's spring time. :confused:

Last time I was in the U.K. at age 17, I swore I'd move back some day. Hasn't happened yet, though huh-huh-huh. How does this area of the globe compare to your native town in the UK?


You all drive on the wrong side of the road out here.

a-huh-huh-huh How so?

No, seriously, I've lived all over the UK from the frozen Highlands of Scotland to the heavilly populated south east. The industrial midlands to the rural south west. I don't really have a native town to compare it to.

I see. I like to ask people about the inspiration behind their name, but often make wrong assumptions. For instance, I assumed BH-21 is 21 years of age, yet he's "twice that age", according to him. So why "Car-less"? Am I assuming correct that you do not own a personal motorcar back in your home town?

I do have a cheap runaround back home, and a collection of thousands of toy cars too, but when I was signing up to these forums I was between cars at the time. My usual online identities were already taken so I had to think of something new, and as motoring related names appeared common around here, I decided to use my then current car-less status.

That explains it then. The Silvia got a bit of a slow start in the series, obviously since it was down on power. How are you feeling about your ride now?

I knew from the start that I had the worst power to weight ratio, but it was the best I could afford without going front wheel drive. However, I was always confident of the cars capabilities with a low centre of gravity and rear wheel drive.

You've decided for Seoul you're going to eschew any further modifications for this week. Obviously a bit of strategy on your part. Any hints as to what might unfold after Seoul and in the weeks to come?

Yes, I figured no amount of money would give my car the legs it needs to win at this track. Better to wait and see how much I have at the end of the week, then target it towards whatever modifications will best suit the next set of tracks.

How confident are you as we head towards Korea? I know you've already expressed some reservations, but could you further define your comment that you've had "2,000 laps of experience" here?

As I said, there's no way I can win this one on power alone. I can only hope my experience of driving 3 laps at this course and two others in some 726 different cars will help me.

Nicely done sir! I took liberty, and visited your personal GTP stats page, which says you've completed the Gran Turismo 4 series, and with all gold licenses + coffee breaks to boot. About how long did it take you from start to finish?

Lets just say that had I bought my PS2 for GT4 and GT4 alone, I would have gotten more than my moneys worth from it. I know that I reached 100% + 80 golds etc by mid 2007, but I cannot remember when I started, and I definately hadn't finished at that point.

Any comments on the Sunday Cup series so far? Why join the Sunday Cup instead of one of GTP's many faster series?

After the focus had moved on to GT5, it was refreshing to see some activity in the GT4 forum again. First the Lap Time Benchmark threads, then the Top Gear Comparason thread and finally the Sunday Cup series. I felt the best way to add my support and keep this corner of the racing world active was to add my voice and experience to the mix. Besides, I don't have the hardware for GT5.

Let's end with a softball. :) Your GTP stats page mentioned Legos, and I can certainly relate. I had a paper route from ages 12 thru 14, and spent over $800 on these fabricated bricks and toys.

Are you like me, in the sense that you spent hours building Lego cars, and then smashing them to pieces in hallway demolition derbies with your pals? Or what was or is your primary use of Legos during play time?


$800? I've probably averaged more than that every year for the past two decades.

editorial note: That's $800 in 1980 money!

I used to spend hours, days, weeks even building massive creations from cars and houses to pylons and man-sized insects! Not so much these days. Now I seem to be spending more and more money buying the stuff, but less and less time building with it. There's only so much time in the day, and the more time I spend racing or chatting, the less time I have left for my other hobbies.

A huh-huh-huh well done, sir! This has been Parnelli Bones, GTP Sunday Cup correspondent. Back to you Ken...

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Legos such a wonderful invention. I have done the smash'em bit too, abliet in the '70s, it must be a human male trait. :)

P.S. If you must know my age it is exactly double 21 but its not likely to stay that way. Keep the hits a coming Parnelli, I'm certainly learning a lot about our little group. I would really like to hear from our rather quiet bunch, Shotamagee, Dogbreath, Jet Badger, there is certainly a story or two in there.
 
Legos such a wonderful invention. I have done the smash'em bit too, abliet in the '70s, it must be a human male trait. :)

Yup. Me and my brother, my cousin, some of my neighbors would all build these "cars", and then sit at opposite ends of a long hallway and roll them towards each other. Eventually one would be too smashed up to roll. Those were the days.

I remember I got the idea to make a simple car like this...

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It was two wheels with one brick holding them together, that's it. The little thing was indestructible!

P.S. If you must know my age it is exactly double 21 but its not likely to stay that way. Keep the hits a coming Parnelli, I'm certainly learning a lot about our little group. I would really like to hear from our rather quiet bunch, Shotamagee, Dogbreath, Jet Badger, there is certainly a story or two in there.

No worries. I've got it covered.
 
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