PC or MAC

PC or MAC

  • PC

    Votes: 38 79.2%
  • Mac

    Votes: 7 14.6%
  • What's a PC

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • What's a mac

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    48
Is that the one with the guy who's screaming? If so, I've seen it, and it seems whoever made it was very confused, because it's mostly problems with OS 9, but he mixes in some OS X stuff.

Originally posted by toyomatt84
An iBook? Those are the worst excuse for a laptop, oh wait, I can't even give them the respect of being called a laptop. They are just overpriced paperweights!
Oh? I've had mine for over a year and a half now, and I haven't had a single problem with it. Well, the battery's lost most of its charge, but it's enough to get by. Can you honestly tell me what makes it useless? I get by fine with it... I have Office v.X installed to do all of my schoolwork (and as a sidenote, PowerPoint presentations look so much better on the OS X version than the XP version that for school presentations, I refuse to use the PCs unless I'm forced to), and haven't had a single problem with compatibility when sending a Word document to someone else. I also have Studio MX installed, and granted, Fireworks takes too long to startup, but otherwise I can do all of my web design just fine. iTunes - wonderful. Safari - Runs in circles around IE in rendering speed, W3C standards support, it has tabbed browsing, Quartz antialiasing...

OKay, I've jabbered enough, but I want an honest, objective opinion from you, because I can tell you that mine's been very good to me.

And nothing of this one-button mouse business either... I've got a Logitech MX500 (8 buttons) that works as it should.
 
Originally posted by Seito4Counter
OSX is less of a resource hog than windows
Very true. I was talking to one GTP member over AIM some time ago while he was at work, and he said Windows was using roughly 20% of the resources for its system-level, um, stuff. On the other hand, OS X typically uses 1-5%. I rarely hit the CPU ceiling, especially since it's good about dumping visual stuff onto the video card.
 
I don't care about all of this anti microsoft crap, I use whats easier for me, macs crash on me way to much, are incompatible with most video games and no right click, you never realize how much you use it untill it's not there. I find that when I use them I spend more time looking at this thing than anything else.

Oh yeah and the restart button never works.....
 

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If Macintosh would release an 0S to run on a machine with generic hardware I think they would make a lot more cash. But that is a very "UnMacish" behavior.

They also could have jumped into *nix more and made quite a bit of cash as more companies are turning away from Sun and Microsoft for their networking solutions..
 
Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
I don't care about all of this anti microsoft crap,
Huh? I have Microsoft software on my computer, and I'm not what one would call anti-Microsoft... I just happen to think Windows isn't quite as good as OS X, so I pay for OS X. Just because we have a Subaru doesn't make us anti-Honda.

I use whats easier for me, macs crash on me way to much, are incompatible with most video games and no right click, you never realize how much you use it untill it's not there. I find that when I use them I spend more time looking at this thing than anything else.

Oh yeah and the restart button never works.....
Well, there's part of your problem... that's from OS 9 (or maybe 8), and I'll be the first to admit that I couldn't stand it. I cringe when using our G3, since it still has 8.6 installed. Under Panther, I've only had one crash, and my right click works just fine. As well as my middle click. And my two thumb clicks. And the other middle click. And the two clicks around the scrollwheel.
 
Originally posted by Sage
Huh? I have Microsoft software on my computer, and I'm not what one would call anti-Microsoft... I just happen to think Windows isn't quite as good as OS X, so I pay for OS X. Just because we have a Subaru doesn't make us anti-Honda.


Well, there's part of your problem... that's from OS 9 (or maybe 8), and I'll be the first to admit that I couldn't stand it. I cringe when using our G3, since it still has 8.6 installed. Under Panther, I've only had one crash, and my right click works just fine. As well as my middle click. And my two thumb clicks. And the other middle click. And the two clicks around the scrollwheel.

hmm lets see...........1, 2,3,4,5.....oh yeah 6, and 7

call me lazy but thats too many damm clicks.
 
Originally posted by Shadow
hmm lets see...........1, 2,3,4,5.....oh yeah 6, and 7

call me lazy but thats too many damm clicks.
I'd actually like about 4 more, but you can't have everything. ;)
 
Originally posted by Sage
Huh? I have Microsoft software on my computer, and I'm not what one would call anti-Microsoft... I just happen to think Windows isn't quite as good as OS X, so I pay for OS X. Just because we have a Subaru doesn't make us anti-Honda.

I was referring to the nuts who will do anyhting not to use microsoft products because MS is "evil"

Well, there's part of your problem... that's from OS 9 (or maybe 8), and I'll be the first to admit that I couldn't stand it. I cringe when using our G3, since it still has 8.6 installed. Under Panther, I've only had one crash, and my right click works just fine. As well as my middle click. And my two thumb clicks. And the other middle click. And the two clicks around the scrollwheel. [/B]

At the college we just have those 1 button ones that piss me off. Yeah I do think it was OS 9, I havent tried since. My computer serves primarily for gaming and fun so thats my primary reason for going PC over mac.
 
Microsoft is evil.. remember that whole anti trust thing? Unfair business practices etc.. What bothers me most is that the lack of competition in this market leads to inferior products. Can you imagine how well tuned an 0S would be by now if multiple corporations were developing them?

(well maybe not evil, but we hate them anyway right?)
 
Originally posted by Seito4Counter
Microsoft is evil.. remember that whole anti trust thing? Unfair business practices etc.. What bothers me most is that the lack of competition in this market leads to inferior products. Can you imagine how well tuned an 0S would be by now if multiple corporations were developing them?

(well maybe not evil, but we hate them anyway right?)

I dont hate them at all, My PC works fine, it does what I want it to and thats all I require, to me and every other average computer uses there in no inferiority at all. If it wasnt for all the dumb ass virus writers and hackers we wouldnt have to wory about "security holes" Personally I dont care, as soon as something goes wrong there is a patch, or fix. As long as it does what I paid for it to do there is no reason to be unhappy. Do you ever stop and think that maybee microsoft products have so many security problems that are disconvered simply because they are the biggest target? the bigger target offers more opportunity for attack, If MAC was #1 I'm sure it would be the target of such scrutiny. Anyway eventually they are going to run out of holes and the damn thing will be bulletproof because everything that could go wrong already did :lol:
 
If Macintosh would release an 0S to run on a machine with generic hardware I think they would make a lot more cash. But that is a very "UnMacish" behavior.
Well, I see two reasons why they don't do that, both which tie into one central reason: It's better for them to have a monopoly on their hardware.

First off, if someone wants the Mac OS, then they have to buy Apple hardware, which means a lot more money for them.

Secondly, aside from money, it's also a matter of principle... by having full control over the hardware and software, it's one complete and well-done package. I'll concede that I can't really explain this part well, because it's something you have to experience first-hand.

Originally posted by skylineGTR_guy
I was referring to the nuts who will do anyhting not to use microsoft products because MS is "evil"
Okey dokey. :)

Originally posted by Seito4Counter
Microsoft is evil.. remember that whole anti trust thing? Unfair business practices etc..
I have to admit though that they might not have actually done anything wrong. I haven't actually looked into all of the alligations and what not, but one thing that comes off the top of my head is the whole IE issue - I think what they did with that is perfectly legal (utilizing their already large Windows base to kill off Netscape by installing IE), and morally I'm not even sure if there's a problem with it. *shrugs*
 
Originally posted by Seito4Counter
If Macintosh would release an 0S to run on a machine with generic hardware I think they would make a lot more cash. But that is a very "UnMacish" behavior.
There's one of those sitting about 8" to the left of my PB17 here, and about 36" away from my G4. A PowerComputing 604/120 that I bought in 1994 or so to replace my 1989 Mac II. It still runs great, though it needs more hard drive space (who'd have thought 800 megs wouldn't be enough?) and I have no plans to upgrade a 10-year-old machine.

It was replaced in 1999 or so by the G4, which is still a mainstay machine and is heavily used every day. The PB17 we bought last spring just because it was so damn cool. I also have a 1999-vintage 2nd gen iMac that happily runs OSX Jag and the full Office X suite for my daughter to use for homework. And a 2003 "robot" iMac 17 for my younger daughter. All 5 of the machines are networked (4 of them wireless).

Not bad - one computer every 5 years? And all of them still functioning, including the Mac II that's almost older than Sage?
 
that many macs.. k. But i still cant go buy a cpu and board and make a mac machine.. maybe i can, but i don't find any mac boards or cpus at fry's..
 
Neither. Windows is the biggest piece of commerical crap ever and those big glossy Mac icons don't do it for me. As for Linux, well, most of my most used applications won't run on it. :grumpy:
 
Originally posted by Shannon
Neither. Windows is the biggest piece of commerical crap ever and those big glossy Mac icons don't do it for me. As for Linux, well, most of my most used applications won't run on it. :grumpy:

So what do you use?
 
I certainly dont hate macs, but I would prefer to have a PC, despite all the problems with them. They just come easier to work with for me.
 
Originally posted by DoomsDayDevice4
Did you know that Bill Gates could spend $1,000 a minute for 85 years and still have millions of dollars?

WHOA!!!!:eek:
Yes. And dropping a $100 note on the ground would be a waste of his time to pick up.
 
Originally posted by Seito4Counter
what if mac made an open source os..
Before you say it again, the company is Apple, the operating system (as well as some of the hardware) is Mac. ;)

Anyway, if they made it open source, wouldn't they be obligated to make it free? It's based off of Unix in the first place anyway, and they do have some "open-source" projects, in a sense (you can register to be a Developer to help make changes to their products, Safari/WebKit in particular). I don't see how opening up the whole OS would be beneficial to them though.
 
Originally posted by Sage
I don't see how opening up the whole OS would be beneficial to them though.
Easy. Developers would be able to get their hands on the source code, hence being able to release patches for vulnerabilities. That isn't so much of a problem with Mac, but definately with Windows. XP was released with what, over 1000 bugs (?) with new vulnerabilities being found every day. If it was open source, there would be less and less of all these blaster worms and such floating around.

You do the math, 200 Microsoft programmers or 200,000,000 developers around the world?
 
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