PHOTOMODE BORDER REMOVAL

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So... photo mode looks like this
photo_travel03-620x.jpg

However, the borders of the image shown are not always the borders of the photo taken, this is a huge problem especially when taking 16:9 photos, as they fill the whole screen, and you cannot see where the real borders of the photo are until after you have taken it. What I am suggesting is a preview button we could hold that would hide the black borders and help us with framing our shots.
 
Yes, a preview button that SnakeOfBacon suggests would be good.
Or even one that generates a quick lower resolution image just to give you a general idea of the composition.
 
It would be great if the "viewfinder" showed exactly the frame of the resulting photo. I see two issues in GT6. One is that the actual size of the frame taken is larger than that shown in the 'viewfinder".

The other is that the actual point of view of the viewfinder and the actual shot are different. I was shooting with a sign in the foreground, and a car in the background. In the final shot, the sign obscured most of the car which was not what the viewfinder told me.
 
Here is an example. The quality of the photos is terrible, since they are handheld phone photos of my TV. Sorry about that.

You'll see that the viewfinder view and the final photo are quite different.

Here is the viewfinder...

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And the resulting photo below. Where did that right wheel come from? The relationships between the headlamp, the windshield and the driver's head has changed radically. The sky has been cropped.

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@GBO Possum (I might be telling you what you already know - if so apologies) But I think that possibly the problem you maybe having there is that you're using panning mode 1. Try for the same picture using panning mode 3.

I've found that the panning modes (and the focal length/shutter speed you use with them) makes quite a difference to the framing. It's because the picture swings around the focus point in varying amounts depending on the mode.

Although the results might be better you still generally still won't get a correct full frame.

For example on the picture below, to get the stars on the grills of the outermost cars equally spaced I had to keep moving the camera over to the right and keep trying until the image was correct - but it looked wrong in the viewfinder!
As suggested a preview button/image would save a lot of guess work.

Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit_1.jpg
 
@IfAndOr - thanks for taking the time to reply with your explanation! You encouraged me to try a few more experiments.

What I have found is that:-
  • None of the panning modes provide an image which matches the camera view.
  • If there is any lateral movement of the focus car in Mode 1, then the relationship between that car and background objects is quite different in Mode 1 when compared to Modes 2 and 3
  • If there is no lateral movement, then the differences are smaller.
  • However, in all cases, the field of view in the photo is wider than in camera, and
  • The actual timing of the image capture precedes the location of the car in the in-camera view (I lined the car up with a line on the road, faced the camera slightly downwards, and the photos showed that the car had not yet reached the line on the road!)

So I go back too my earlier suggestion that the in-camera view should behave like a through-the-lens camera viewfinder at least as far as the view of the focused subject is concerned. If I focus on a car, and frame the car's image the way I want it, I don't want the camera to take two paces backwards before capturing the image! :D
 
GBO Possum
So I go back too my earlier suggestion that the in-camera view should behave like a through-the-lens camera viewfinder at least as far as the view of the focused subject is concerned. If I focus on a car, and frame the car's image the way I want it, I don't want the camera to take two paces backwards before capturing the image! :D
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I don't know if you've read this, but it's quite informative.
http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt6/manual/#!/photo/menu
 
Yes, it is, especially in the panning mode description. But it doesn't warn us that the photo's framing will be bizarrely different to the camera view! My first camera's viewfinder had a parallax error of about 3 cms. Back in the days of folding Kodak cameras. This one's parallax error is sometimes measured in meters I feel!!
 

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