Photomode Glitch?

[Dodzzz]

I took a picture, and I found that the "bokeh" is somewhat glitched.. it's not as smooth as like in the "viewfinder" (before pressing O)

take a look at the wrinkles all over the bokeh area..
it just ruins everything..

 

[Giulietta73]

It doesn't seem too bad. Have you tried anywhere else? - because there's a lot of street furniture in the background that could be responisible for the wrinkling.👍

 

[86Debris86]

I agree it doesn't look that bad. I've looked on my phone and on my laptop and I would have barely noticed had you not pointed it out.

I've noticed the result doesn't quite look the same as it does in the viewfinder though. I've usually tried to compensate by setting the F-stop slightly higher in the camera menu.

As @Giulietta73 says trying somewhere else may help. It's been said some of the textures in certain areas of photo travel aren't great.

 

[nursemorph]

I wonder if something has changed in relation to taking photos. While it may not be related, myself and someone else have taken photos during a replay and the picture, despite using auto-focus, is quite blurry. This is an example of it:

I have never had a picture that became blurry like that before the recent update

 

[Zenmervolt]

I wonder if something has changed in relation to taking photos. While it may not be related, myself and someone else have taken photos during a replay and the picture, despite using auto-focus, is quite blurry. This is an example of it:

I have never had a picture that became blurry like that before the recent update

What F-Stop, where did you have the focus point, what shutter speed, what panning mode? Without knowing those settings it's literally impossible to comment on your example.

 

[nursemorph]

What F-Stop, where did you have the focus point, what shutter speed, what panning mode? Without knowing those settings it's literally impossible to comment on your example.

Fair point and, truthfully, I don't know the settings. All I know is that I went to photomode and took the photo without changing any settings at all....I just panned out slightly to get the right part of the car in the picture, pressed auto-focus and pressed take photo. Other pictures I have taken in the exact same way have always been clear...this blurring has never happened before. Sorry I don't know the settings but I don't generally change settings as I don't really understand what they do...I just do the old "point and shoot" way

 

[Giulietta73]

Fair point and, truthfully, I don't know the settings. All I know is that I went to photomode and took the photo without changing any settings at all....I just panned out slightly to get the right part of the car in the picture, pressed auto-focus and pressed take photo. Other pictures I have taken in the exact same way have always been clear...this blurring has never happened before. Sorry I don't know the settings but I don't generally change settings as I don't really understand what they do...I just do the old "point and shoot" way

Auto-focus doesn't do quite what it says on the tin. You need to aim the centre of the camera on the part of the picture you want it to focus on - like the nearest part of the car.

The default setting for the panning modes is 1 which will give the most blurry effects. Mode 3 is the best for a clean car on a blurry background. And the shutter speed is 250 on default - which would explain the lack of movement behind the barrier.

Instead of point and shoot try these settings:
Shutter - 60
Panning mode 3
picture size 16:9
Set the focus to 1.0. Take a few good steps back and zoom towards the car. Aim the center at the part of the car that is nearest and press square. The adjust the focus to anywhere between 1.4 and 4.
Take the picture.

You should have a pretty nice pic:tup:
Its a quirky camera, but will yield good stuff once you get used to it.

 

[nursemorph]

@Giulietta73 : Thank you for the information. I will try it out next time I try to take a photo 👍

I still think there's an issue though as the "point and shoot" that I have been using yielded a clear picture before the update and now results in blurry pictures. Hopefully the settings above will sort out the blurring

 

[Zenmervolt]

I still think there's an issue though as the "point and shoot" that I have been using yielded a clear picture before the update and now results in blurry pictures. Hopefully the settings above will sort out the blurring

There is no issue. Taking a picture with a random focus point in panning mode 1 with only a 1/250th shutter speed could only result in a clear picture by pure dumb luck. The fact that you happened to get half decent photos before through blind luck doesn't mean there's a problem now.

The in-game camera works very much like a film camera using center point focusing and center-weighted metering. You have to think about it as though it were a real SLR camera and adjust it accordingly.

 

[UltimateLurker]

There is no true boke in GT6, and in fact, no such thing is possible...yet. Real oof areas get more and more oof with distance, and all GT6 does is blur everything more or less, regardless of distance. This is real boke/dof...


The Last Unicorn. by VisualEchos, on Flickr

 

[UltimateLurker]

I guess what I'm trying to say is, GT6 has had issues rendering different backgrounds from day 1, but I haven't noticed it getting any worse. What you're noticing is most likely a building in the back that has lines that, when blurred, look weird, like a shape version of moire.

 

[Zenmervolt]

To the OP:

What you are seeing is the result of the graphics engine's attempt simulate bokeh. Rather than applying a simple motion blur or Gaussian blur, the software is attempting to emulate the way a real camera would render bokeh, with the tendency towards circularity in the highlights of out-of-focus areas. Because this emulation is more difficult to render than a standard Gaussian blur, the viewfinder does not use the full emulated bokeh in its preview and all you see is the simpler Gaussian blur when you're initially composing the image.

Obviously, the simulation is not perfect and in some situations the rendering can be problematic. In your specific case, the processing engine is having difficulty with the crosshatching in the roof tiles (the area directly over the drive's seat in the car) and with the many, close together, vertical lines in the cartoon bull image above the car's trunk. A simple Gaussian blur would not have this same difficulty in handling closely spaced parallel lines and that's why it looks OK in the preview. When you actually take the picture though, the processing engine attempts to emulate bokeh by generating circular out-of-focus areas around highlights and this can cause undesirable artifacts in areas with crosshatching or closely spaced parallel lines.

The process works pretty well in most cases, but as you've seen it can fall apart a bit in some circumstances.

It's worth noting that not all real life camera lenses render bokeh in the same manner either. Even discounting mirror lenses (which have god-awful "doughnut" bokeh), the bokeh produced by different lenses will vary. In some situations, a lens which normally produces nice bokeh will have bad bokeh just because of lighting quirks. For example, note the first photograph posted in this thread. The lens in question is one of the best Canon makes, but in that particular situation it gave a very artificial appearing result because of a combination of lighting and background patterns. If you're interested, Ken Rockwell did a comparison of several different lenses all at the same focal length and aperture and you can see that the bokeh changes from lens to lens.

 

[86Debris86]

@Zenmervolt 👍 👍

 

[GEO_2009]

Not sure what kind of photographic background OP has, I personally find the bokeh horrendous, was quite excited when I found I could hit F1, having previously only really used a 1.8/2.8macro unfortunately in GT it seems to give a more lined effect rather than the rounded bulbs that many would expect.

 

[GEO_2009]

It all depends on light sources or reflects as to what kind of bokeh effect you receive, few examples of what I consider bokeh, guess which one is GT6 . First image after the car no really strong light source coming through, second image multiple strong light sources in the background so nice rounded bokeh. Both taken at F2.8, except GT pic F1.

 

[Dodzzz]

Hello, this glitch is finally fixed at update 1.07

Here's the prove:

Nice smooth as silk bokeh, finally!
Thanks PD