Pikes Peak International Hill Climb 2009

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This is a great event... how good would it be to have this in GT5!!!
 
Definitely bring back Pikes Peak, it was a legend!! I don't know why they dropped it but can imagine with the WRC licence it could come back as a rally event (not that the WRC use it, just being optimistic!)
 
Definitely bring back Pikes Peak, it was a legend!! I don't know why they dropped it but can imagine with the WRC licence it could come back as a rally event (not that the WRC use it, just being optimistic!)

I don't think any of the GT games ever had the full Pikes Peak track did they? because it's pretty long, the record is around the 10 minute mark.

I do remember a similar track being in one of the the games though, perhaps a shortened version of the Pikes peak track?
 
I don't think any of the GT games ever had the full Pikes Peak track did they? because it's pretty long, the record is around the 10 minute mark.

I do remember a similar track being in one of the the games though, perhaps a shortened version of the Pikes peak track?

The track itself is only 12.42 miles as John and wikipedia says. Thats 5 or so miles shorter than Nurburgring. I don't think thats very difficult to have in the game. It'd be an awesome time trials track. I would love to see it in GT5.
 
I believe the GT2 version was the top, all gravel part of the track.
 
I believe the GT2 version was the top, all gravel part of the track.

Ah, I guess that makes sense.

Still, this is a great opportunity for Polyphony to do the whole track for GT5!
 
Yeah you remember correctly, it was a condensed fictional layout only loosely based on the real track.
 
I remenber the Pikes Peak in GT2 was one of the most challenging courses of the game!

No Pikes Peak since GT2 . . . I hope it will return in GT5!!!

One of the best race events ever made.

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DiRT has is it and I think it holds the record for either longest coarse in a video game or most corners. Buts its about 40% paved and 60% dirt.
 
It must be for the number of corners, I can't think of any other track that's been in a game with more than 150 corners.

It's definitely not the longest course in a game, it's not quite as long as the Nordschleife which is popping up in every racing game under the sun these days. The Nordschleife northern loop is only just longer at 12.9 miles compared to 12.43 for Pikes Peak. Layouts combining the Nordschleife and the Nurburgring circuit can be a couple of miles longer.
 
Escudo.. in GT5? Suddenly, F40 starts to seem rather driveable.. :D


 
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*bump* added video.
 
Holy *insert a bad word here*!
I need to see that car on the "track".
 
indeed. That thing will haul some serious ass :D
 
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And yes, it was the swede who destroyed his car. Marcus had his own problems as the hood latch failed.

practice day #3 results for unlimited class:

Division: Unlimited
Driver Name Number Vehicle Run 1 Run 2 Run 3
Nobuhiro Tajima 1 2009 Suzuki SX4 04:44.046 04:37.311 04:36.230
Marcus Gronholm/ Timo Alanne 3 2009 Ford Fiesta 04:51.624 04:50.071 04:45.462
Mark Rennison 200 1984 Ford RS 200 DNS DNS DNS
Andrea Eriksson/ Per Ola Svensson 5 2009 Ford Fiesta DNS DNS DNS
 
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I wanted to see it on-track. 8(

Just found this:
WHO ARE MACH 2 RACING?

We are a British Motorsport promotions company formed in 1993, and after a successful period racing TVR Tuscans, decided to look at something international and just a little bit different. We commissioned the preparation of our car, a Ford RS 200 Evolution Ultra-lightweight, and in 2008 make a welcome return to the Unlimited class of Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. In conjunction with Geoff Page Racing and MDV Specialist Engineering, our existing race winning RS200E has been completely re-built for its latest challenge. Regrettably, our driver for many years, World Rally Champion, Stig Blomqvist, is not available this year however we have again been fortunate enough to attract RallyCross Champion, Mark Rennison as our driver.

WHAT IS A FORD RS200?

Background: The Group B Era

In 2009 the Ford RS200 celebrates its 25th anniversary. The first car was built in 1984 and was Ford of Europe’s response to the Group B regulations for the WRC (World Rally Championship) that the FIA announced in 1982. These regulations only required the manufacturer to produce 200 vehicles, in lieu of the 5,000 units/year required previously, and this encouraged much greater freedom in the design and engineering. Weight was kept as low as possible, high-tech materials were permitted, and there were no restrictions on turbo boost, which turned out to mean almost unlimited power.

The overall result was a new breed of super rally cars that were all designed specifically for the mixed surfaces found in WRC and they were the quickest, most powerful and sophisticated rally cars ever built. Group B was initially a very successful concept, with many manufacturers joining the premier World Rally Championship, and there was a significant increased in spectator numbers and media interest.

However, a series of major accidents, some fatal, were blamed directly on the outright speed of these new Group B rally cars. After the death of the Lancia driver Henri Toivonen and his co-pilot in the 1986 Tour de Corse, the FIA cancelled the class after only four years. The short-lived Group B era has acquired legendary status among rally fans.

The Ford RS200

The Ford RS200 featured a plastic/fiberglass composite body designed by Ghia, a mid-mounted engine and four-wheel drive. Power came from a 1.8 litre, single turbocharged Ford/Cosworth "BDT" engine producing 250 horsepower (190 kW) in road going trim and 450 horsepower (340 kW) in racing trim.

In order to aid weight distribution, designers mounted the transmission towards the front of the car, but this required that power from the mid mounted engine go first up to the front wheels and then be run back again to the rear, creating a complex drive train setup. The chassis was designed by former Formula One designer Tony Southgate, and Ford's John Wheeler, a former F1 engineer, led the development. A double wishbone suspension setup with twin dampers on all four wheels aided handling and helped give the car what was generally regarded as being the best balanced chassis of any of the Group B cars.

The FIA announced the cancellation of Group B in mid 1986. For 1987, Ford had already planned to introduce an ‘Evolution’ variant of the RS200, featuring a development of the BDT engine (called BDT-E) with displacement increased to 2137 cc and a potential power output up to about 650 horsepower. Upgraded brakes and suspension components were part of the package as well. The ban on Group B racing effectively took away any priority on the E2 model development. However, more than one dozen of them were successfully run in rallycross throughout Europe.

Mark Rennison, Mach 2 Racing’s Pikes Peak team driver for 2009, won the 1987 British Rallycross Championship title driving a Ford RS200. He won every one of the seven rounds of that championship - an achievement that has never been matched. He went on to win the championship title again the following year in the same car. Norwegian Martin Schanche claimed the 1991 European Rallycross title also driving a Ford RS200 E2.

The Mach 2 Racing RS200

Engine builder Geoff Page was involved with the BDT-E engines from the start in 1987 and has assembled the engines for almost all the competition RS200s ever built. There are only a handful of specialists in the world who can build these engines, and Geoff is the best of the best. He built the engine and serviced the Mach 2 Racing RS200 that was driven by Stig Blomqvist in the 2002 and 2004 Pikes Peak Hillclimb. From that experience he knew that to beat the elusive 10 minute barrier he would need to find more power and find a solution to the power loss at high altitude.

The 2009 engine has greater capacity at 2,400 cc, the Garrett prototype turbo delivers more boost with greater control at different altitudes and the LIFE ECU is better able to adjust the engine management settings to cope with variable air pressure. This combination with high octane racing fuel delivers 950 horsepower. Finally, 70 litres of Nitrous Oxide gas boosts the power output to 1,150 horsepower for the equivalent of three minutes.

MDV Specialist Engineering have considerable experience with RS200s and earlier this year they stripped the car down to the bare chassis. Their main task was to loose as much weight as safely possible. Using all their race and rally experience they managed to beat their target of 100 lbs. The 2009 car now weighs in at 2,315 lbs (1,050 kgs) ready to race, with a full fuel tank and with the driver on board.

The Mach 2 Racing team now believe that they have the fastest off-road racer of all time and they are all totally focused on beating the 10 minute barrier.

FORD RS200 - TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION

Engine

Geoff Page Racing 2,400cc Inline 4 cylinder Ford Cosworth BDTE racing engine.
Mid-mounted longitudinally.
Cylinder head: DOHC 16 valve.
Compression ratio: 8:1
Turbocharger: Prototype Garrett altitude compressor. Max boost pressure = 35 psi
Management: LIFE F88
Fuel: 116 octane race fuel
Max Power: 950 bhp (PS-DIN) @ 8,000 rpm
Max Torque: 750 lbs ft @ 5,500 rpm
Power booster: 70 litres of Nitrous Oxide gas gives a boost equivalent to 3 minutes at:
Max Power: 1,150 bhp (PS-DIN) @ 8,000 rpm
Max Torque: 850 lbs ft @ 5,500 rpm


Transmission

Four-wheel-drive with 50:50 or 63:37 torque split (rear:front)
Gearbox: FFD 5-speed manual
Clutch: AP Racing twin plate paddle clutch with cerrametallic linings.
Gearbox ratios: 3.23 / 2.14 / 1.68 / 1.36 / 1.14:1
Transfer ratio: 1.15:1
Final drive: 4.375:1

Suspension

Independent, double wishbones, single coil-over dampers, adjustable anti-roll bars front and rear. Rear adjustable toe control link.

Steering

Rack and pinion, hydraulic power assistance. 1.8 turns lock-to-lock.

Brakes

13.0 ins (330 mm) diameter ventilated discs. AP Racing motorsport calipers.

Wheels

Ford magnesium alloy, 8 x 17 in rims
Avon rallycross tyres. Choice of full slick or cut slick.

Dimensions and Weights

Length: 157.5 ins (4,000mm)
Width: 69.0 ins (1750mm)
Wheelbase: 99.6 ins (2,530mm)
Track (front/rear): 59.1/58.9 ins (1502/1497mm)
Weight: 2,315 pounds (1,050 Kg)
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/foru...-mach-2-racing-ford-rs200-evo-pikes-peak.html
http://mach2racing.com/
 
I'd be terrified if i was in that RS200, those things are scary to hell. Still, good luck to the team.
 
It's definitely not the longest course in a game, it's not quite as long as the Nordschleife which is popping up in every racing game under the sun these days.

I'm still not very far in the game, but doesn't Suzuki TT Superbikes eventually have you race the full Isle of Man?
 
I saw that Ford RS200 on a recent episode of Fast Lane Daily on YouTube. Best of luck to the team running that car.
 
Well, the RS200 might.. or might not.. run today. They already blew up the engine once, fixed it and have been tuning the ride.. And isn't that the same RS200 that was in one of the Clarkson's videos? :odd:
 
Well, the results are in. Grönholm had Turbo problems and the RS200 wasn't running properly. "Monster" still holds the title.



Division: Unlimited
Driver Name Number Vehicle Glen Cove/Sixteen Mile/Finish Line
Nobuhiro Tajima 1 2009 Suzuki SX4 04:34.100/07:08.458/10:15.368
Marcus Gronholm 3 2009 Ford Fiesta 04:50.397/07:34.078/11:28.963
Mark Rennison 200 1984 Ford RS 200 05:26.302/08:25.241/12:11.561
 
10:15 over a whole minute faster....
Congrats Tajima.

Found a nice video:
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Here's another nice video.

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in that case, all I can do is give thumbs down to the brits who keep ruining these rare classics. 👎
 
in that case, all I can do is give thumbs down to the brits who keep ruining these rare classics. 👎

Why is it being ruined?

It's a competition car being used for motorsport. Isn't that what it's ment to do :odd:

Here's some pix of it as it raced this year:

 
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