Pit entry exit blend lines

[KR33GT]

Really would like to see these blend lines enforced. Have too many times received a penalty now from being hit by another driver's late dive into pit, or charge straight onto driving line out of pit.
There is a reason these lines exist and they are drawn on every track in gt sport!!

 

[Guffaluff]

Agree. Should be one form of penalties, just as shortcuts, contact and such. Would like it as an option in lobbys too.

 

[Stencedaddy]

and if you voted no, why not?

 

[CTznOfTime]

Yes....


But only when there are cars merging in..

If there are no car leaving the pits, the white lines can be ignored...

But harsh penalties for those crossing it and making it hard for those who are joining back the race....

 

[fastone371]

Yes....


But only when there are cars merging in..

If there are no car leaving the pits, the white lines can be ignored...

But harsh penalties for those crossing it and making it hard for those who are joining back the race....

Why only randomly enforced?? Its not difficult to obey the exit and entrance lines.

 

[Nismonath5]

Yes....


But only when there are cars merging in..

If there are no car leaving the pits, the white lines can be ignored...

But harsh penalties for those crossing it and making it hard for those who are joining back the race....

The whole point of the lines are for cars entering / exiting the pits, not for anyone else on the track. If you're on track, there's no one coming out of the pits and you feel the need to cross the line for some reason, go ahead.

Doing so will be penalty enough anyway.

 

[CTznOfTime]

Agreed... But in some cases, for example 2 or 3 wide fighting for the next corner...

It should be that those trying to fight for position should and must yield to merging in traffic that is trying to leave the pits...

That's what I meant ...

 

[KinLM]

Yes....


But only when there are cars merging in..

If there are no car leaving the pits, the white lines can be ignored...

But harsh penalties for those crossing it and making it hard for those who are joining back the race....

The existing AI penalty system has a hard enough time deciphering who is at fault in a collision.

What on earth makes you think that it would be capable of accurately discerning when an oncoming car is far enough away versus when it’s too close and a penalty should be enforced?

The message boards would light up with even more mad anger at the penalty system than they currently do anyways.

It isn’t a hard rule to follow, F1 games have enforced this for years. Make it consistent one way or the other, unless we have an actual human steward watching the race then I don’t think it’s a good idea to ask anything more out of an AI penalty system.

EDIT:Quoted the wrong person at first.

 

[CTznOfTime]

Fair enough...

But I imagine the AI Stewart's in the PS5 would be smart enough to make that differentiation... at least the system would be capable ONLY if the programmers implement the logic correctly....

 

[KR33GT]

I would think it's very simple to implement a system where;
A: a driver crosses the pit entry blend line and enters the pit area,
Or,
B: exits the pit area and crosses the pit exit blend line,
Recieves a penalty.
I have been impeded countless times by a driver making last minute call to enter pit, and actually pushed me in too, (penalty received by me for" blocking"). Or a driver charging straight out of pit across the blend line onto the racing line on track at speeds far slower than those on track causing accidents,

 

[8l23ub]

Yes they should be enforced, because we are not playing GTA.

 

[GTR365]

My feelings concerning pit exit entry/exit lanes is that these areas of the track are to be occupied only by cars entering/exiting pits and that such cars, once committed, must occupy only these respective areas while a blend line exists. I expect that differentiation for the game programming, similar to all other track outer boundaries, is purely mathematical computation. Only similar; for outer boundaries, I consider 99% out to be 100% in. Comparatively, any encroachment across blend line is a violation.

An exception which comes to mind relates to purposefully evasive action. To avoid a collision, a driver might be forced to cross a blend line (either direction). This exception, as do several other potential rule conflicts, becomes a judgement call. AI stewards, get to work!

 

[CTznOfTime]

My feelings concerning pit exit entry/exit lanes is that these areas of the track are to be occupied only by cars entering/exiting pits and that such cars, once committed, must occupy only these respective areas while a blend line exists. I expect that differentiation for the game programming, similar to all other track outer boundaries, is purely mathematical computation. Only similar; for outer boundaries, I consider 99% out to be 100% in. Comparatively, any encroachment across blend line is a violation.

An exception which comes to mind relates to purposefully evasive action. To avoid a collision, a driver might be forced to cross a blend line (either direction). This exception, as do several other potential rule conflicts, becomes a judgement call. AI stewards, get to work!

Watch what happened at the 2min7sec mark





So many instances of them crossing the lines... I don't see any wrong doing in any of these:

 

[KR33GT]

Yes, whilst racing on track the lines can be ignored. However note the exit blend line extends all the way down to nearly turn 1. There for cars exiting pits are required to stay inside this line to not impede traffic on track, at speed coming into the breaking zone for turn 1,. Once out off this lane the cars exiting pit are up to a comparable speed with cars on track hence no great speed differential and safer to merge with traffic.
The pit entry lines indicate an area of the track where cars are required to enter the pit area. This is normally where it is safe to peel out of the racing traffic and slow to enter the pit area. Once pay the entry to this another drive should be able to safely assume another driver is not intending to pit and safely commence an overtaking procedure down that side. Not trying to duck into pits just before the pit wall starts .
These lines can really be enforced in these instances.

 

[GTR365]

So many instances of them crossing the lines... I don't see any wrong doing in any of these

My previous post was merely my opinion. I am not a frequent racer. Your opinion likely differs & that's fine. These discussions hash out such issues with the goal of a consensus resolution.

I missed watching that race, that highlight video was a nice watch, thx. I see those several instances of crossing the firm (solid, not dashed) pit exit blend line you reference. I still feel that most of these occurrences are ill-advised with respect to safety; I feel on-track drivers are incapable in real time of making an exclusively reliably correct decision whether pit lane is void of cars so that they might encroach without collision. I consider these areas adjoining independent track sections which share a common limit. Occupants of either section should not be allowed past that limit while it exists.

Rules for these situations, of course, are determined by respective sanctioning bodies to be enforced by the weekend's stewards. These people are far more knowledgeable & more experienced than am I. You probably are, too.

I consider rules concerning a racing situation like this to be inviolable & not subject to any participants judgement; like whether a pit worker deploys a face shield during a hot pit stop, whether track workers are allowed on a hot track to retrieve debris or whether a driver timely responds to a black flag. Some things just have to be, just because.

Again, my opinion, thx for participating.

 

[8l23ub]

Situations like this can be avoided if everyone follows the same code of conduct.