Pit Stops

[outlaw4lyfe]

during Endurance races, is there really any need to Pit in? or could ya just keep goin without pits

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Well, You should pit in. Otherwise your tires will wear out and it will be really hard to drive.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Try racing one and find out.

 

[Der Alta]

Try racing one and find out.

Excellent suggestion.

As for a reason to pit, red tires have very little traction. Pitting in will make a significant difference in your time. But, have it as you may, I know of people that have run the Tokyo enduro on T8 tires without pitting.

It was an OLR competition with points awarded for tire choice. The statistical advantage was gained in points, and more than offset the loss of time.

AO

 

[outlaw4lyfe]

i just did that speed track 1, after about 30 laps ya tend to start 2 slide but it didnt make any difference i was already about 5 or 6 laps ahead.... i was usein a 1110BHP dodge viper so lol

 

[Duke]

Well, yeah, if you're bringing a flamethrower to a bar fight, then you don't really need to worry about accuracy very much. But it does kind of take the sport out of it, doesn't it?

 

[outlaw4lyfe]

winning is winning tho innit lol

 

[Duke]

Not in my book it isn't, but whatever paddles your canoe is OK for you.

 

[outlaw4lyfe]

so are you sayin ull only use cars that are relatively the same speed as the 1s on track or are you sayin you pit in just cause it happens in real life

 

[Solid Lifters]

so are you sayin ull only use cars that are relatively the same speed as the 1s on track or are you sayin you pit in just cause it happens in real life

For the first part of your statement, yes it is a lot more fun to choose a car that is equal to the cars you'll be racing against. If you you win by a mile, then what's the point? Winning isn't everything. Having fun, and racing against cars that will be a challenge is the fun part.

For the second part, pit strategy really comes into play when you use a slower car. I like to use, say, a 550 hp car against AI cars that are running with 1000hp. My pit strategy, and tire selection would therefore be critical to my victory, and planning for the right amount of pit stops is more like real racing. So, in a sense, we pit in, just like IRL, because we are racing the races just like a real life race.

 

[Duke]

so are you sayin ull only use cars that are relatively the same speed as the 1s on track or are you sayin you pit in just cause it happens in real life

I'm saying that I only use cars that are approximately the same speed as the AI cars. I only qualify to see how the car runs against the field. If I can put a car on the pole by more than 1 second per lap, I won't run that car unless I can reduce power to make it more competitive. And even when I do get the car dialed in to match the AI cars, I start from 6th position to make it more interesting.

There's no point in destroying the competition. Just driving around without having to work for victory is dull, and it teaches you terrrible driving habits.

 

[LoudMusic]

Look at those great American educations going to work. Jolly good show!

Hey, what's the fun in blowing out the competition? That just defeats the point of the game.

However, I do sometimes race any particular car on the endurances just to get a bunch of hot laps in that certain car, no matter what the competition is for the race. That way I'm getting something out of the hot laps (credits when I finish) assuming I chose a more powerful car. I also do that in the longer non-endurance races in Professional. But I wouldn't do that just to beat the race the first time around. I tried to stick with cars no more powerful than 10% over the competitions' horse power (I actually suck at GT3 ...).

 

[Duke]

However, I do sometimes race any particular car on the endurances just to get a bunch of hot laps in that certain car, no matter what the competition is for the race.

I've tried that a number of times, but I found it hard to get a hot lap during a race. It always seems that you're in traffic when the tires are good, and by the time you've got a clear track, the tires have gone away.

I agree though, enduros are a great way to get good practice and rhythm for a certain track.

 

[dori-san]

"It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile! Winning's winning."

I think this noob has a bit too much of a Fast and Furious complex going on.

btw noob, learn 2 speel n stuf pluz u need 2 enunciate!

 

[kensei]

ummm, I can't believe I am going here but. In reality when I win at something, I want to win in a crushing, unrelenting way that makes my opponent never want to return to face me.

But, in GT3 winning by 6 laps may be fun the first time, but after that it wears thin. Very thin.

I'm currently playing through Gt3 one last time to 100% before Gt4 comes out. I find trying to guage just what the AI is running in the races frustrating. I spend more time fussing with my car or looking for a car that handicaps me against the AI than racing. That being said i still do find a way to handicap myself against the AI to make it somewhat of a challenge. If you enter a race in SIM mode with a car that is equal or above the AI cars and unless you really suck you should win by at least 20 seconds, if not more. The AI has many problems.

Thus, that is why racing the AI isn't really a gauge as to your speed. You need to get into Online racing to match yourself against others.

Then again kids in 1200hp vipers wall riding wondering if they actually need to pit missed the point anyway.

 

[outlaw4lyfe]

how i see it, once 100% of game is complete, i mite consider going back and just racing them in similar speed cars, but for now while im not at 100% ill just keep destroyin em

 

[kensei]

how i see it, once 100% of game is complete, i mite consider going back and just racing them in similar speed cars, but for now while im not at 100% ill just keep destroyin em

you have fun with that little boy.

 

[Anderton Prime]

Guys, come on. I played GT3 the same way the first time I completed it. I got one F1 car and that was it. Sure, I got pretty bored and didn't think I wanted to play it again, but that's called learning the hard way, and it's the best way to learn. Once I found GTP and started paying attention to tuning and learning to drive more than a few select cars, I instantly started having more fun.

This guy just wants to know about pitting in, not what you think of how he plays the game. So, in order to actually address your question, outlaw4lyfe, pitting is not just done because we want to mimic real-life racing. Sure, racing the Super Speedway Endurance doesn't require that you pit in, but try the Trial Mountain or SSR11 enduros and you'll find that pitting is absolutely necessary.

Having a "2Fast 2Furious complex" is perfectly alright, but typing lazily presents you to the other GTP users as uneducated. So if you want anyone to pay serious attention to your queries, outlaw4lyfe, you'll have to get aquainted with your shift button and start using capitals, periods, and apostrophes.

By the way, since no one else has done it in here yet,

Welcome to GTP outlaw4lyfe!

 

[outlaw4lyfe]

you have fun with that little boy.

lol look at ya wit ur pathetic insults biatch

 

[kensei]

lol look at ya wit ur pathetic insults biatch

"LoL, YaZ ImA BiG DuMb JrK wIt My InSuLtz, LMFO"

(shakes his head, kids now-a-days)

 

[Anderton Prime]

lol look at ya wit ur pathetic insults biatch

Okay that's it, outlaw4lyfe you're out of the loop. I suspect that in addition to having problems writing/typing, you probably can't read very well, since I was trying to warn you politely that people around here don't buy the kind of crap you're selling (namely, typing like a punk and behaving like one as well). You know, you remind me of someone, his name is Bryce302 and he's almost as annoying and disrespectful as you. Almost, but not quite.

I thought Bryce302 was the worst I had encountered on GTP, until I saw you, outlaw.

 

[kensei]

Okay that's it, outlaw4lyfe you're out of the loop. I suspect that in addition to having problems writing/typing, you probably can't read very well, since I was trying to warn you politely that people around here don't buy the kind of crap you're selling (namely, typing like a punk and behaving like one as well). You know, you remind me of someone, his name is Bryce302 and he's almost as annoying and disrespectful as you. Almost, but not quite.

I thought Bryce302 was the worst I had encountered on GTP, until I saw you, outlaw.

Wait wait...you missed it. He is an "outlaw for life". He doesn't need to conform to "rules". "Outlaws" are cool, they can do whatever they want in their middle class suburban "outlaw" lives

(still shaking his head)

You are far more patient dealing with these kids than I.

I apologize Mods, the "outlaw" rubbed me the wrong way today! I am stopping with this "outlaw for life", he won't get it. His kind never do no matter how much you trying. Screaming at a wall does nothing. Again, thank you Moderators for putting up with my annoyance with the "outlaw for life".

 

[outlaw4lyfe]

i aint asking ppl ''BUY'' what im sellin as you say, i was puttin across my point of view until dicks like you came along callin ppl kids just cause they dont have the same views as you

 

[Der Alta]

lol look at ya wit ur pathetic insults biatch

Offense #1: attacks on other members.

i aint asking ppl ''BUY'' what im sellin as you say, i was puttin across my point of view until dicks like you came along callin ppl kids just cause they dont have the same views as you

Offense #2, language.

Shall I continue to look for third offense and send you packing the day after you registered?

I'm suggesting right now, that you smarten up. A re-read and understanding of the Acceptable Use Policy and the Terms of Service are in your very near future.

Return this to topic, or it gets recycled.

Der Alta

 

[outlaw4lyfe]

Guys, come on. I played GT3 the same way the first time I completed it. I got one F1 car and that was it. Sure, I got pretty bored and didn't think I wanted to play it again, but that's called learning the hard way, and it's the best way to learn. Once I found GTP and started paying attention to tuning and learning to drive more than a few select cars, I instantly started having more fun.

This guy just wants to know about pitting in, not what you think of how he plays the game. So, in order to actually address your question, outlaw4lyfe, pitting is not just done because we want to mimic real-life racing. Sure, racing the Super Speedway Endurance doesn't require that you pit in, but try the Trial Mountain or SSR11 enduros and you'll find that pitting is absolutely necessary.

Having a "2Fast 2Furious complex" is perfectly alright, but typing lazily presents you to the other GTP users as uneducated. So if you want anyone to pay serious attention to your queries, outlaw4lyfe, you'll have to get aquainted with your shift button and start using capitals, periods, and apostrophes.

By the way, since no one else has done it in here yet,

Welcome to GTP outlaw4lyfe!

man ya know, you are the only person who actually understands what i was asking lol....

thx dude

 

[Sohcahtoa]

i aint asking ppl ''BUY'' what im sellin as you say, i was puttin across my point of view until dicks like you came along callin ppl kids just cause they dont have the same views as you

If you've payed attention at all, they're not calling you a kid because you like to win by 5 laps...they're calling you a kid because of the way you type.

You just don't get it, do you? If not, just read this sentence:

What you say does not matter as much as how you say it.

Take the following two sentences:

"I disagree. I find that it's much easier to have a car that oversteers slightly than one that understeers. That's why I like FRs more than FFs."

"ur stoopid. fr rox. ff blows. u cant turn wit an ff."

Both of them may basically say the same thing, but if you say it with the second sentence, your post will basically be ignored, and people will think of you as just some stupid kid, and ALL your posts will end up being ignored.

Say what you want and say it how you want to, but just keep in mind that if you type like a kid, people will treat you like one. Don't get pissy when this happens. You've brought it on yourself.

Anyways, getting back on topic...

Someone said something about driving cars that destroy the competition teaches bad driving habits. I can certainly be an example of that. I used to rely completely on power. I'd be racing a car with 500 hp vs AI with 300 hp and win, but only by a few seconds because I sucked at cornering, but my car was so powerful I could make up for it in the straights. Needless to say, once you get to the later races, your fully tuned 700 hp car don't mean crap anymore, but you're stuck on easier races that don't pay as much, so you can't get the money for a better car, not to mention tuning one.

But now, I've learned...I've gotten much better at cornering and learned the importance of a full-customization suspension kit. I'm still not the greatest, but I've improved so much.

 

[LoudMusic]

My pits make anyone stop who crosses my track.

 

[dori-san]

I was wondering if/when someone was going to reply with a reference to the body. thank you LoudMusic...

 

[wellyrn]

Pit if the tires are messing up your driving style.

Personal preference aside using less modded cars helps early on because:

1) you will have more money left over
2) tight competition will make you better

You don't have to be super anal with no-mods or tires like some people do. Also, try lowering your TCS and ASM as much as you can.

 

[Travi_D]

Well, yeah, if you're bringing a flamethrower to a bar fight, then you don't really need to worry about accuracy very much. But it does kind of take the sport out of it, doesn't it?

That quote is pure gold. Props to you.