Playing with a dual shock 3 controller

[sleepystalker]

Hey guys. Is it possible to win in that um Nurburgring? Cuz I can't keep up with the small and big turns with a small mushroom underneath my thumb lol. Is it possible?

 

[W3H5]

Of course it's possible. I haven't raced with a wheel since GT4 so have spent the whole of GT5 on a DS3 and have a blast a the 'ring and put in fast times too.

 

[Womble]

Since "98 i've used a DS and along the way have used wheels as well, but ATM I'm using a DS2 and find it easier to control most of the cars.

 

[Midnight Snacks]

>that um Nurburgring

Are you referring to being able to drive the track well, or an event on the track?

 

[thepineapple1]

Try adjusting the controller sensitivity (last option in Driving Options).
Other than that, it's all about training. Keep in mind, the Nurburgring is the thoughest track in the world, hence its reputation. So don't expect to pass through it "alive".
You'll have to be very precise on your breaking & accelerating, and most importantly, try to be in the gear the computer advises you to be, as it's very precise for almost all of the bends.

 

[Spiderman_Geek]

Learning the track is key. I use DS3 (never used a wheel, I don't own one) and the 'ring is my favorite track in this game. I use it as my standard for tuning cars.

Once you "know" the track like the back of your hand, you'll simply anticipate the turns instead of reacting to them. It makes all the difference in the world, but that's when the REAL fun begins. Once you start fine tuning your car and keep beating your personal best times, it becomes very rewarding and satisfying.

Just keep at it my friend, but to simply answer your question... Yes, it's entirely possible to win the 'ring with a DS3.

Good Luck

 

[Skython]

Yeah, learn it. Though admittedly I know almost every turn, and I don't know whether to be proud of that or not to be due to it being learned on a game

 

[sleepystalker]

haha thanks all! I'll keep on taking shots at it. I'm always reacting to turns nowadays (only started playing for alike 1-2 weeks), so I'll practice like crazy

 

[CyKosis1973]

haha thanks all! I'll keep on taking shots at it. I'm always reacting to turns nowadays (only started playing for alike 1-2 weeks), so I'll practice like crazy

Go to the Special Events and complete the AMG Mercedes challenge. This challenge will teach you all you need to know about the Nordschleife. I hated the track in GT4, could never put in a clean lap, particularly over the latter stages of the course. Now I've learnt the track, I relish every single mile of it.

And your choice of controller doesn't really mater. I'm still using a manky old SixAxis controller, which can stick slightly when turning left

{Cy}

 

[Morgoth_666]

The Nordschleife is a monster whether you're using a pad, a wheel, or some sort of direct neural interface. It just takes lots and lots and lots of practice as it's very complex and confusing at first.

Best bet is probably to run laps in practice or arcade time trial modes. Slow down and try to concentrate on just getting around without spinning and crashing, a clean lap is more important than a fast one, especially since -- once you've come to grips with it -- the AI can't drive it worth a damn. Once you can drive around the track reliably you'll start finding heaps of time as you master each corner.

When I was learning I found it useful to try to break the track up into sections that have a particular feel to them. For example you start with a bunch of non-stop twists, then you go into the wide-open stretch up to the first 'hairpin,' then another section, etc. First learn what section is coming up next, and then worry about getting the most out of each corner.

Don't be in too much of a hurry, enjoy it!

 

[mr.wigglesaur]

yes, although id suggest you use max steering sensitivity and map your brake/throttle settings to controls that allow for more precise controls... then just get on the nurburgring and practice

 

[Authentic718]

Hey guys. Is it possible to win in that um Nurburgring? Cuz I can't keep up with the small and big turns with a small mushroom underneath my thumb lol. Is it possible?

Of course it's possible, I use a DS3 and my best time is a 6:02, as others have said just keep practicing and this will eventually be your favorite track. I use to HATE this track, now I can't get enough of it, 12.95 miles of enjoyment. I would also suggest that you change your buttons to R2 (gas) L2 (brake), gives you much more precise throttle and brake control, but most of all PRACTICE. Hope this helps

 

[Spiderman_Geek]

Best bet is probably to run laps in practice or arcade time trial modes. Slow down and try to concentrate on just getting around without spinning and crashing, a clean lap is more important than a fast one, especially since -- once you've come to grips with it -- the AI can't drive it worth a damn.

I've noticed than in the British Lightweights Seasonal, the Lotuses that are usually in the first 2 positions can never manage a clean corner at the Breidscheid bends (The sharp uphill right, pictured below), before Bergwerk. They always end up in the grass there. It's not even that difficult of a turn.

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[PureLogic]

Practice. Once you know the track by heart, you'll rock it whether with a wheel or a DS3. 👍

 

[davelis]

Yeah, learn it. Though admittedly I know almost every turn, and I don't know whether to be proud of that or not to be due to it being learned on a game

dude we are on the same boat and i feel many others are on too!
The moment you take a car up there, you won't need instructions cause you will already know the map! That's how i see it anyway!

 

[davelis]

I've noticed than in the British Lightweights Seasonal, the Lotuses that are usually in the first 2 positions can never manage a clean corner at the Breidscheid bends (The sharp uphill right, pictured below), before Bergwerk. They always end up in the grass there. It's not even that difficult of a turn.

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difficult corner nevertheless,let alone PD making the AI a bit of amateur drivers bunch

 

[iamsupernasty]

I've noticed than in the British Lightweights Seasonal, the Lotuses that are usually in the first 2 positions can never manage a clean corner at the Breidscheid bends (The sharp uphill right, pictured below), before Bergwerk. They always end up in the grass there. It's not even that difficult of a turn.

at the top of the image

I disagree. I think that's one of the more difficult turns on the track. It's slightly off camber, and you need to carry a ton of speed through it. Definitely is easy to get loose through there if you're off-line even a little.

 

[StefanBellof]

I've never tried GT5 with a wheel but i understand it is quite an advantage.
I still manage to be competitive in the racing league i run, where almost all the other drivers are using various wheels.
The biggest disadvantage with the DS3 is the lack of proper throttle / brake control.
I use ABS and pump the throttle to compensate.

The right-hand corner is called ex-muhle. It is crucial to get good exit speed for the uphill. Also, positioning the car for a good out-in-out line is tricky as you always come from the inside line over the bumpy Adenauer-bridge.

Quoting Derek Bell: "Now another important part, we're coming to this right-hander here, it's third gear but we've just got to put the power on the road and the car is always inclined to slide away"

 

[andy63]

Of course it's possible, I use a DS3 and my best time is a 6:02, as others have said just keep practicing and this will eventually be your favorite track. I use to HATE this track, now I can't get enough of it, 12.95 miles of enjoyment. I would also suggest that you change your buttons to R2 (gas) L2 (brake), gives you much more precise throttle and brake control, but most of all PRACTICE. Hope this helps

interesting, i use the joysticks to controll my car and can do similar laptimes to my laptimes with my wheel.
And it is possible yes. I have only raced shuffle alot with the DS3 and i get laptimes like 8.42.xxx from a standing start and some pushed in the start

 

[GTVirtuoso]

I've never used a wheel, and I don't own one. Been playing with a DS since GT2. I still use X for gas and [] for brake. The AMG Challenge, as someone stated above, is a great tool for learning the Nurb. A clean lap is the first thing you need to accomplish. Then worry about the fast lap.

 

[Spiderman_Geek]

I disagree. I think that's one of the more difficult turns on the track. It's slightly off camber, and you need to carry a ton of speed through it. Definitely is easy to get loose through there if you're off-line even a little.

Interesting. I almost always ace this corner. It's a short Apex and with an outside approach, you can just cut right into the inside and accelerate out. It never cuts loose on me. Weird.

I have more difficulty nailing the Apex at Brunnchen

7 times out of 10 I'll hit the sand and the guardrail on exit.

 

[Sol_Badass]

I tilt the controller stick up when i'm using tail happy cars and roll the stick to steer them at times. It steers smoothly instead of making the front cut in.

 

[baly]

no difference mate. i use the d pad to steer and race against some wheel users everyday on this track.

its always close 0.5 - 3 secs and 50/50 who wins or loses.

best track ever ever

 

[CAM]

i use the d pad to steer

Really now? Using my DS3 is bearable when my knee gets tired from using my DFGT, but using the D-pad is really hard for me. That's an interesting playstyle, you're a better man than me if you can handle a car that way 👍.

 

[thepineapple1]

my knee gets tired from using my DFG

Do I hear you on that one!
But the sitting position really matters.
I keep my pedals tilted with the help of 2 shoe boxes, against a wall.
I keep the whole thing closer to my left side, so when I break I'm pressing down with my whole foot right down the middle of the pedal (horizontally wise).
As for the throttle, I use my right foots big toe (and the rest of the foot part under it, and maybe sometime also the toe right next to the large toe.
But still after a while the knee feels strange due to it being somewhat extended and turned a bit. But doesn't hurt now anymore (after long sessions).

Oh! And play barefoot, it's the only way to have any sort of grip.

 

[thepineapple1]

I've actually had problems driving in GT5P since I wasn't used to sims and it really left me with a bad impression. Then a month (almost 2, soon) I got GT5 and a DFGT and it was a whole new game, all the things that bugged me at fiirst, now made sense.
Then 2-3 weeks ago, I tried racing with the controller, and I couldn't believe how easy it was. It's almost like the cars wheels turn themselves exactly how much they need to, in order to take that particular bend, and all you have to do is match the speed.

 

[sleepystalker]

YAY I did a relatively clean lap around haha. Only a few slips, no crashes. Did it with a Toyota Minolta though... probably still can't do it with a less agile car.

Nice idea with the throttle R2 and break L2. It would probably let me switch between the two quicker during turns and such. Thanks!

 

[PrettyNiceGuy]

just use both joysticks and you can drive just like AI cars, half throttle around corners.
i switched recently to use the second joystick while grinding seasonals.
and must say that after a week i think its way better to handle cars.
i used cross and square for like 15 years!!
my lap times improve everyday and after a week i'm between 5 to 10 sec. faster on most tracks.(it depenche wether i'm shifting manual or use autoshift).
the expert seasonal are going much easier to.

although it doesn't seem to work for me in open wheel cars.

 

[Adroitt]

Nice idea with the throttle R2 and break L2. It would probably let me switch between the two quicker during turns and such. Thanks!

Can you mod a DS3 to make the buttons harder to push giving greater control of braking and acceleration? Or the best you can do is switch to R2 and L2?

 

[dropsonde]

I've noticed than in the British Lightweights Seasonal, the Lotuses that are usually in the first 2 positions can never manage a clean corner at the Breidscheid bends (The sharp uphill right, pictured below), before Bergwerk. They always end up in the grass there. It's not even that difficult of a turn.

at the top of the image

this is the one corner I seem to always get wrong, and the carousel

use joysticks to control throttle. would be nice to be able to change the sensitivity of throttle/braking but that would make the game unbalanced