Playstation 3 System Update Thread

I won't post my speedtest since its ridiculous slow (2MB) lol ...
but however wouldn't you think it's a lot more important how many people are downloading an update at the same time rather than pure connection speed?
I at least have that impression since it sometimes takes only 1 or 2 minutes and sometimes ( rarely tho ) up to 30 minutes ... and correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the sys updates for PS3 are always the same size since it overwrites the entire OS everytime, which explains those screwed PS3s after an failed update btw.
They won't get bigger in size also, because this is naturally limited by the flash memory size.
 
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but however wouldn't you think it's a lot more important how many people are downloading an update at the same time rather than pure connection speed?
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May very well be. I have noticed download speeds are not always the same when downloading updates. Not sure if it's related to the servers being busy. Usually I have the updates fairly quickly.
 
Digital-Nitrate
As for the time it took for me to upload the update, it took less than a minute using the PS3's wireless router, and I updated it soon after Solid Lifters posted.

This isn't the first time someone posts that it's taking a long time to download, while others download much faster.
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Actually, looking at what time he posted and what time you posted I am going to take a guess that it had more to do with traffic. I have learned that an update done between 8PM-11PM ET is often slow for me, but an update done between midnight and 6-7AM will take only a few minutes.

Now, I wish I had realized that there was an update last night so that I could have done that instead of having to worry about it when I get home.

Unless someone has the Web link..... :D

Digital-Nitrate
I've heard that many Linksys routers have had similar problems with communicating with the PS3's WiFi adapter, and as such many people complain about slow downloads and blame the servers when the real problem is with their router.
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I have this Linksys router (WRT54G) and the issues it causes are not speed but connection issues. It and the PS3 do not talk smoothly, so any time your ISP does some kind of network refresh the router and PS3 basically reboot their connection as it assigns a new IP. It has something to do with the media server connection because it doesn't do it if you turn that off.

It is easily fixed, and remains fully functional, by setting up a DMZ for the PS3.
 
Just downloaded it. And glad to say the sorted the glitch with videos, the black and white video problem with non PAL and NTSC TVs. They were a bit slow in fixing it, but at least the did.
 
NLxAROSA
That is correct. If there are external problems, you could easily replicate it on both the PS3 and the PC. Same for internal problems. This is true because you are doing exactly the same on both systems: running speedtest.net. If there is a difference between PS3 and PC, the only difference is the PS3 and the connection to the router, the rest is the same.

No, it may still very well be your router, your ISP, Sony's server or anything in between. We (or at least I ;)) don't know what protocol or ports are being used to download updates. If they are different from what speedtest is using (HTTP over port 80) you cannot compare the two. It might be a port issue, it might be a server issue, or it might be an issue with your ISP (or other ISP's in between the server and yourself). You can exclude any local port issues by placing the PS3 in the DMZ. That still leaves all external options though.

I usually score the same on PS3 and PC on speedtest.net, but there is a definite difference when downloading updates. They are usually slower. I can assume it's not on my end, since I placed the PS3 in the DMZ of my router, but I can't say for sure it's Sony's server that is limiting the speed (though it probably is ;)), since it might just be the connection between me and the server. For all I know I'm downloading the update from Japan or Australia. The only thing you can safely say is whether the problem is on your side or not. But if it's not on your side, there are several other places it can go wrong on the outside, not just Sony's server. :)
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Agreed, and well said. 👍




H20HYBRID_GT
I won't post my speedtest since its ridiculous slow (2MB) lol ...
but however wouldn't you think it's a lot more important how many people are downloading an update at the same time rather than pure connection speed?
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Absolutely. However, if at the end of the day, even if there is no traffic and no server issues on either side, you are still limited by your current trasnfer rate... thus by checking it, it can help to identify whether or not the issue is more or less likely a server side issue, or a problem with your ISP or network.

For instance, if you know that your transfer speed is usually around 5Mb/s, but running a speed test with one or more servers in your area shows you are only getting 2Mb/s, and the same is true for other computers on your network, then you have probable cause to contact your ISP to get the problem resolved.




FoolKiller
Actually, looking at what time he posted and what time you posted I am going to take a guess that it had more to do with traffic.
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As I said in that post, I didn't download the update at the time I posted. I downloaded it just minutes after Solid Lifters posted:

Digital-Nitrate
As for the time it took for me to upload the update, it took less than a minute using the PS3's wireless router, and I updated it soon after Solid Lifters posted.
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I have no doubt that traffic plays a role in transfer speeds, but there can and often are many other factors that can easily be affecting slow downloads, and many of them are limited by our own networks and ISPs.
 
Digital-Nitrate
As I said in that post, I didn't download the update at the time I posted. I downloaded it just minutes after Solid Lifters posted:




I have no doubt that traffic plays a role in transfer speeds, but there can and often are many other factors that can easily be affecting slow downloads, and many of them are limited by our own networks and ISPs.
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Oops, missed that. Anyway, I have found that avoiding high-traffic times for both system updates and store downloads can make a huge difference.

I also wonder if region has anything to do with it. Could Solid Lifters in CA be having heavier traffic on his regional Sony server than you in TX? Or me in KY?
 
FoolKiller
Oops, missed that. Anyway, I have found that avoiding high-traffic times for both system updates and store downloads can make a huge difference.

I also wonder if region has anything to do with it. Could Solid Lifters in CA be having heavier traffic on his regional Sony server than you in TX? Or me in KY?
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That could very well be a key indicator. As NLxAROSA brought up, there can be many different reasons why transfer speeds are slower for some, and faster for others. The only thing we can do is at least try and isolate whether or not the problem has to do with our own ISPs and or own personal networks... because at least we have some control over that. :)

I agree though, if you know traffic is likely high on a server, and it's going to interrupt your schedule, then it's probably a good idea to not update until it's convenient. At least now Sony added the feature of automatically turning off your PS3 after an update as well as after downloading content from the PSN stores... so you can always schedule your downloading before going to bed. 👍
 
Digital-Nitrate
At least now Sony added the feature of automatically turning off your PS3 after an update as well as after downloading content from the PSN stores... so you can always schedule your downloading before going to bed. 👍
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I wish they would also add a go into Folding@Home option. I'm trying to fight disease over here and they leave me stuck with turning the system off or leaving the Install Complete screen sitting there.

They probably got Alzheimer's and forgot about people like me. That's what happens.
 
H20HYBRID_GT
I won't post my speedtest since its ridiculous slow (2MB) lol ...
but however wouldn't you think it's a lot more important how many people are downloading an update at the same time rather than pure connection speed?
I at least have that impression since it sometimes takes only 1 or 2 minutes and sometimes ( rarely tho ) up to 30 minutes ... and correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the sys updates for PS3 are always the same size since it overwrites the entire OS everytime, which explains those screwed PS3s after an failed update btw.
They won't get bigger in size also, because this is naturally limited by the flash memory size.
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Oh dear... just under 2MB...
Wireless faster? I dont know lol but I should be getting one soon :)


Update took 10mins for me
 
FoolKiller
I have this Linksys router (WRT54G) and the issues it causes are not speed but connection issues. It and the PS3 do not talk smoothly, so any time your ISP does some kind of network refresh the router and PS3 basically reboot their connection as it assigns a new IP. It has something to do with the media server connection because it doesn't do it if you turn that off.

It is easily fixed, and remains fully functional, by setting up a DMZ for the PS3.
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You could always just give your PS3 a static address and use MAC address cloning on the router, yes? :odd:
 
harrytuttle
Port forwarding? Do you need remote access to this? :confused:
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You need access to your router to be able to do this, by typing a code, its similar to an IP address, into your computers address bar you should be able to access it. I'm having the same port forwarding problems but I have no access or control over the network so I cant forward the ones I want. :ouch:

That was a very vague answer to you question, sorry but hopefully someone else will know the code to access the router.

http://portforward.com thats a useful site if you have to forward ports. 👍

Edit: The bottom of that page is the code you need, I think.
 
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GT4 genius
You need access to your router to be able to do this, by typing a code, its similar to an IP address, into your computers address bar you should be able to access it. I'm having the same port forwarding problems but I have no access or control over the network so I cant forward the ones I want. :ouch:

That was a very vague answer to you question, sorry but hopefully someone else will know the code to access the router.
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FoolKiller
Look at the link I posted earlier, it explains how to do it, and gives the address for accessing the Linksys router in question.
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Oh, I fully understand TCP/IP and the idea of port forwarding, probably more than most here. I just didn't realize that the PS3 needed ports opened to talk to the Sony web/PS3 service. Is this problem limited to just the WRT54g, or are there other routers that have similar trouble?
 
I had to put mine in the DMZ as I got fed up with adding extra ports all the time. Since then it's been pretty stable over a wired network.
 
I opened the ports and I got an max speed of 10mbps(max for package my parents pay for). Very fast for a wireless connection at 95%-98% strength(PS3 is below the router).
 
harrytuttle
Is this problem limited to just the WRT54g, or are there other routers that have similar trouble?
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As far as I know, with Linksys, it is just the WRT54g. Cisco blames Sony and Sony blames Cisco. They both keep saying that the other has to fix the firmware.

I am not sure about any other brands.

Whatever the issue is it is relatively easy to fix and is basically something that is beneficial anyway.
 
wrcsti
2.53 is out.
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Thanks for the heads-up.

Took 3 minutes to download and a little less than 3 minutes to install.

I'm not sure what the file size was, but that's typically how long it takes for me to download an update.

Other than support for full screen flash, does anyone know what else, if anything, the update did?

Thanks.
 
Digital-Nitrate
Thanks for the heads-up.

Took 3 minutes to download and a little less than 3 minutes to install.

I'm not sure what the file size was, but that's typically how long it takes for me to download an update.

Other than support for full screen flash, does anyone know what else, if anything, the update did?

Thanks.
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According to PS3F, flash improvments overall, which means flash works a bit better now.

From,
Chris.
 
I suspect they want to improve the consoles flash ability because its likely to be a major component in Home (for streaming video etc..).

Downloading it now on PC. :)

Robin
 

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