Please come in if you own a fanatec or T500RS

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Hi,
I am struggling between the fanatec CSW and the T500rs
I've tried the T500 and it was solid, but how was it compare to the CSR Elite( i guess it will much the same as csw)??

I mostly play GT5, but hoping to try some pc games out. Which wheel will be better? Btw budget is not a problem (but i dont want frex or ecci), if some bros think these aren't good enough, welcome to give me some choices

THx
Shaun:)
 
I haven't given either wheel what I would consider a thorough test, but if you read the reviews and tests posted on this forum and others, the Fanatec CSR-Elite seems to be on a different (higher/better) level than the T500 in just about every way. The only common thing I see said about the T500 is that it has a better wheel than the CSR-Elite. But with the CSR-Elite, new wheels will be available in the future as well.

I just ordered the CSR-Elite, because I'm impatient and don't want to wait any longer for the CSW. Once I get the CSW, I'll sell the CSR-Elite.
 
I like the T500RS but only had a DFGT before. I like that I can attach the Ferrari F1 rim to it and change it back to the GT wheel within 20 seconds or so, if I want to play GT5 or GRID.
 
Feel:
FFB on the T500RS is brutal, much stronger than the Elite, however, the Elite is much more precise. I noticed cogging in both of the wheels, but I experienced a lot less with the Elite.

Pedals:
I would say that the T500RS is G-series like and offers very little control compared to say, Clubsports.

Availability:
Fanatec resellers in HK tend to jack up the price, some even go double. Also, they don't sell them at Wanchai or 188 so you will have to do a lot of asking around to get a location.

Rim:
I have to give it to the Thrustmaster, the Elite's rim is just plastic and a couple patches of alcantara. In my opinion, the Thrustmaster's feels vaguely similar to a Clio cup's wheel.

Speaking of Clio cup, have you ever heard of Clio Cup China? Its a great championships that bans tweaking of ECU's and use of jet fuel.
 
somebodysb2
Speaking of Clio cup, have you ever heard of Clio Cup China? Its a great championships that bans tweaking of ECU's and use of jet fuel.
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Im moving to T500 myself shaun, but keeping my CSP.
lol about the clio Cup, as I just saw Shaun's racing clio cup for real in China and Formula Renault testing. quite a good video.
wish i can do what he does.
 
There is something that you need to figure out before, we can give you the best of our suggestions. When do you plan on buying? The CSW is currently not available and it is unclear when it will be available. Do you do grip racing or drift racing? Which gaming system do you plan on playing with? Is it a concern for you that neither of the Fanatec wheels, currently, come with pedals and cost the same as the T500RS? Is cost even one of the criteria? The compatibility of the Elite is a large selling feature. It is more compatible than the CSW and the CSW will be more compatible than the T500RS. The Fanatecs allow for some customization to take place within the wheel, which I believe is unique to Fanatec.

There are many people here that will have suggestions that may help.
 
remember that the CSW rims appear to be much better than either T500 RS rims and the CSR E rim, so take any mention of the CSR E rim with a grain of salt, as it does not apply.
 
The T500 and CSP combo for iRacing is pretty amazing and I am very happy with it.

I look forward to the CSW, but I wont buy it till the firmware is 100% sorted out, people have had the retail version for a while (3-6 months) and people report satisfactory after-sale support. Then I'll consider it and I am expecting that it ill be better than the T500. That all means I will be waiting for 6-9+ months.

Until alternative CSRE rims actually exist and are available I would not consider it.
 
porsche 9146
remember that the CSW rims appear to be much better than either T500 RS rims and the CSR E rim, so take any mention of the CSR E rim with a grain of salt, as it does not apply.
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Why would you take any mention of the CSRE rim with a grain of salt based on the CSW rims? There has to be a typo somewhere there.
 
VWMasteR
Why would you take any mention of the CSRE rim with a grain of salt based on the CSW rims? There has to be a typo somewhere there.
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I said to take mentions of the CSR E rims with a grain of salt because the CSW will not ever use that rim and that the two announced CSW rims are supposedly much better than anything we've seen for the t500 RS or the CSR E.
 
I got the t500 but I will buy the CSW when it comes out. I do have the f1 and I love it but my main complaint is that it doesn't have the SLI (light indicators). My second complaint is that when driving I can feel motors (like little gears) on the wheel instead of a smooth ride.

Therefore I spent all this money that hopefully I will be able to recoup if/when I sell it or just keep it to play w friends when they come over...

Another thing I absolutely love on the f1 wheel is the counter click/shift gear so when on hard turns I still can shift gears w one hand... Awesome experience. Do real f1 cars have that option as well?
 
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MauroAC
I got the t500 but I will buy the CSW when it comes out. I do have the f1 and I love it but my main complaint is that it doesn't have the SLI (light indicators). My second complaint is that when driving I can feel motors (like little gears) on the wheel instead of a smooth ride.

Therefore I spent all this money that hopefully I will be able to recoup if/when I sell it or just keep it to play w friends when they come over...

Another thing I absolutely love on the f1 wheel is the counter click/shift gear so when on hard turns I still can shift gears w one hand... Awesome experience. Do real f1 cars have that option as well?
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not sure if all cars have that, but I think I've seen schumi do it on the mercedes before.
 
I think the biggest weakness of the T500RS is the pedals. While they are not terrible by any means, I think without a load cell modification they are pretty much worthless (my opinion of course, don't get mad). After using pressure sensitive brakes, you will never want to go back to using a standard brake pedal.

With the CSR-Elite you could buy the CSR-Elite pedals to go along with them, plug them directly into the wheel, and get pressure sensitive braking in GT5. Most likely you won't be able to do that with a T500RS. I've heard even doing things like load cell modifications in G25 pedals, GT5 still doesn't recognize it, might have the same problem with modded T500RS pedals.

So my advice:

CSR-E + CSR-E pedals

Or if you are willing to give up GT5 (you will be tempted to once you start PC racing):

CSW + CSP's (unless there is a way to get these working together with GT5)
 
I'm not 100% sure on that. They probably will be, but I didn't want to say for sure because I don't think there is anything officially published. But I thought that the CSW was going to be PC only.
 
superbike81
I'm not 100% sure on that. They probably will be, but I didn't want to say for sure because I don't think there is anything officially published. But I thought that the CSW was going to be PC only.
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The ClubSport Wheel is PC and PS3 compatible and is like the hawk says compatible with ClubSport Pedals.
 
Cool, I wasn't exactly sure. Good to know it is though!

I wonder if it's going to be the same story as it is now where you get reduced resolution with the pedals connected through the wheel?
 
I believe Thomas said somewhere in the forums at some point that it will be, like with previous wheels. So it'll behave in the same manner as CSPs on a CSR Elite for example. I believe this is due to the technical bandwidth limitations of the PS/2 connection. In other words just a few bit (I believe just 8 bit, but correct me if I am wrong) against 480Mbit/s of the USB 2.0 standard. Again, this is just a guess and not a fact about the bandwidth.
 
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superbike81
CSW + CSP's (unless there is a way to get these working together with GT5)
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Whoah, you are saying that won't work for GT5 ???
I must have missed that tidbit as that was my whole reason to wait for this wheel. We really need a dedicated CSW thread.
 
The CSW + CSP combo will work just fine on GT5. As a matter of fact, all Fanatec pedals will work with the CSW.
 
Would be rather silly. I mean just think guys. We have the CSR pedals for the CSR wheel in the CSR product line. The CSR Elite pedals with the CSR Elite wheel in the CSR Elite product line. Then all of a sudden the ClubSport pedals don't work with the ClubSport wheel in the ClubSport product line? That would be very odd and doesn't follow any form of logic. ;)
 
I had both wheels, I sent the Elite back to Fanatec. I thought the Elite was a good wheel but the rim was a deal breaker. It just did not feel like a decent rim. The rest of the Elite was solid enough, a very smooth operation other then if I turned the wheel just a little to far it sounded like a sewing machine (lol) tat, tat, tat, tat.

Also with the Elite wheel, it lost the sense of feel for me. In iRacing the tracks are laser scanned and all the bumps are their. With the Elite wheel it was so smooth I could not feel these bumps at all.

I know most people like the Elite wheel but for me I prefer the T500, it is powerful, Raw and when I race the Riley Prototype I can feel the power this car has, if I race the MX5 I can tell I am racing the MX5. Don't get me wrong, the Elite wheel is an amazing wheel, two motors and is so smooth but I lose the feel of the car. It really is designed for Forza, I enjoyed it driving various cars their but I mostly race in iRacing and hardly touch Forza anymore so it was an easy decision for me.

So it's the T500 with the CSP and a Derek Speare Pro sequential shifter in iRacing for me.
 
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Thx first!
I heard about CSp and CSR elite was the best for iracing in the moment, but mostly i will be playing F1 2011 and GT5. so I cant get iracing as a reference.

Besides i now knew the pros and cons of both wheels, so most of u guys suggest me to get a T500 and have a try, then sell or make it as a spare after the csw is out
 
No offense but I think that's a strange plan. If you want the CSW, then you should just wait for it. It's supposed to be out in the next 2-3 months right or do you doubt Fanatec? :nervous:

Trying to remember your setup. Aren't you the guy with the g27 wheel + that white high profile cockpit? I guess I can understand the impatience since you've been rocking a logitech for quite awhile

edit: I ref to this thread

You dont post much so its easy to find in yer profile :P
 
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