POLL: How do YOU overtake online?

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How do you overtake?

  • Unnerve the driver by sticking to his bumper

    Votes: 53 16.7%

  • Late braking and quick acceleration

    Votes: 92 28.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 11 3.5%

  • Depends on the situation

    Votes: 146 45.9%

  • Ramming (you know you suck if you do this)

    Votes: 16 5.0%
  • Total voters
    318
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I use both, depending on the circuit or the situation.

On the narrower circuits, I push the guy ahead of me into making a mistake by sticking to his rear bumper constantly, It often works.

On wider circuits or if the guy doesn't make a mistake, I just go for it, braking late into corners and accelerating like crazy.

Any tricks you guys have?
 
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Being that I have basically every car I want in the game, and being that online doesn't pay out anything worthwhile anyway, I forsake better positions in the name of clean racing. Especially on a track like Nordschleife, I will try to avoid overtaking in corners, and I'll even follow a slower car for a fair amount of time just to wait for a clean opportunity to pass, despite how much slower they might be than I am.

That being said, people who ram others off the track especially in the first and last sections of that (or any other) track, just to get something like 3rd place and 3,000 credits, etc., they're Darwin Award candidates, IMO. Trash drivers who show no respect for other racers, and who illustrate that their brain activity is so null as to put beating the guy in front of them ahead of concern for everyone else in the race, can all hop off. D-bag drivers like that cause pileups and ruin the race not only for the person they were trying to overtake, but almost always they create a dangerous situation for the other drivers which is unavoidable and just kills the whole thing. People need to grow up. It's really quite pathetic, they ruin the entire experience for some 16 drivers at times because they never evolved past the neanderthal level.
 
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That being said, people who ram others off the track especially in the first and last sections of that (or any other) track, just to get something like 3rd place and 3,000 credits, etc., they're Darwin Award candidates, IMO. Trash drivers who show no respect for other racers, and who illustrate that their brain activity is so null as to put beating the guy in front of them ahead of concern for everyone else in the race, can all hop off. D-bag drivers like that cause pileups and ruin the race not only for the person they were trying to overtake, but almost always they create a dangerous situation for the other drivers which is unavoidable and just kills the whole thing. People need to grow up. It's really quite pathetic, they ruin the entire experience for some 16 drivers at times because they never evolved past the neanderthal level.
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This^

It's really annoying when first corner accidents occur because someone rammed another driver, who in turn cannot prevent the field from plowing into his/her car. Races are not won on the first corner;)

And I hate it when people quit in the middle of a race because they're in last place. It ruins our own rewards, and is very unsportsmanlike behaviour. Someone has to finish last anyway.

Enjoying a close race with clean drivers is much more satisfying than getting first in all the races. I've had few races around the Nurburgring where the top three were separated by .03 seconds. It's awesome edge-of-the-seat action:tup:
 
SS_1182
Being that I have basically every car I want in the game, and being that online doesn't pay out anything worthwhile anyway, I forsake better positions in the name of clean racing. Especially on a track like Nordschleife, I will try to avoid overtaking in corners, and I'll even follow a slower car for a fair amount of time just to wait for a clean opportunity to pass, despite how much slower they might be than I am.

That being said, people who ram others off the track especially in the first and last sections of that (or any other) track, just to get something like 3rd place and 3,000 credits, etc., they're Darwin Award candidates, IMO. Trash drivers who show no respect for other racers, and who illustrate that their brain activity is so null as to put beating the guy in front of them ahead of concern for everyone else in the race, can all hop off. D-bag drivers like that cause pileups and ruin the race not only for the person they were trying to overtake, but almost always they create a dangerous situation for the other drivers which is unavoidable and just kills the whole thing. People need to grow up. It's really quite pathetic, they ruin the entire experience for some 16 drivers at times because they never evolved past the neanderthal level.
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zedextreme8177
This^

It's really annoying when first corner accidents occur because someone rammed another driver, who in turn cannot prevent the field from plowing into his/her car. Races are not won on the first corner;)

And I hate it when people quit in the middle of a race because they're in last place. It ruins our own rewards, and is very unsportsmanlike behaviour. Someone has to finish last anyway.

Enjoying a close race with clean drivers is much more satisfying than getting first in all the races. I've had few races around the Nurburgring where the top three were separated by .03 seconds. It's awesome edge-of-the-seat action:tup:
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True and true. Honestly though I don't race with randoms anyway. I always race with friends and we do it the right way. Now I have this one group of friends who are a little more casual. We don't go bumper cars all games but we do get dirty. lol. It's a good "let off steam" race when I need a break from the more organized racing I normally do.

I remember a couple of races, with the casual guys, where I was gaining on a straight and my friend was blocking me hard core. I said on the mike "Oh it's like that?" and he laughed, I feigned right and went left and got my fender on that rear quarter panel. I think you guys know what went down next. I pit the spit outta him. LOL. We laughed for a good 5 minutes.
 
Basically, I always enter rooms which have "Clean Racers only" type titles, and with restrictions enabled, No driving aids helps too.
 
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Basically, I always enter rooms which have "Clean Racers only" type titles, and with restrictions enabled, No driving aids helps too.
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One reason I don't like entering random rooms is because you don't know anyone's driving style. Who's the early braker, who's the guy that can't keep it together in the sweepers, who's the guy with the crap connection , etc.
 
zedextreme8177
Basically, I always enter rooms which have "Clean Racers only" type titles, and with restrictions enabled, No driving aids helps too.
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I try to do this too but once in a while someone always tries to drive dirty and ram you off the road.

So now I host my own races so I can kick anyone who does this :)
 
its the ones who ram you off and then quit before you get a chance to get revenge/slag off that do my nut in.

I always try and overtake cleanly but if a continuous rammers in front of me i usually go a bit more aggressive.
 
The skillful drivers I wait and see if they make errors and nip through if the door is left open, the people I can see dont know what their car is and isnt capable of I sit on the bumper until the corners brake early and glide up the inside as they plough wide :D...if theres a gap but I can tell the door is gonna get shut I never attempt to take it because its not worth spoiling the race for a few miserable extra credits and the amount of times ive been thanked for not attempting undertakes that would cause accidents makes me feel pretty good about my online conduct and shows in the good servers the other drivers have awareness too
 
I stick to their bumper, but not to unnerve them. I just wait patiently. I will late brake if I can, like on Fuji. I'll also force my way past them in a turn so long as it doesn't involve contact (ie accelerate into the inside of the turn before they get there).

And as much as I hate it, I use GT5's boosted draft to remain competitive. Though sometimes it's annoying to win only because I was in second at the last turn.

t.o.
One reason I don't like entering random rooms is because you don't know anyone's driving style. Who's the early braker, who's the guy that can't keep it together in the sweepers, who's the guy with the crap connection , etc.
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But that's part of the fun. Minus bad connection.
 
zedextreme8177
On the narrower circuits, I push the guy ahead of me into making a mistake by sticking to his rear bumper constantly, It often works.
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...but do you brake earlier to avoid tapping his rear like I do ?

I get so annoyed when people use the tow to get right under my bumper going into the braking point and then decide that they're still gonna brake the same as always(despite the extra speed and traffic), and despite me braking as late as possible to avoid being rear ended, I so often get that little tap that re-accelerates my car and then as I run wide on the corner and onto the grass, they drive by as though I made a mistake all by myself and will often reply after the race with....'they pressured me into a mistake'.
 
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its the ones who ram you off and then quit before you get a chance to get revenge/slag off that do my nut in.

I always try and overtake cleanly but if a continuous rammers in front of me i usually go a bit more aggressive.
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I do the same thing against them; basically just nudge them a bit while accelerating out of corners or force them to run wide.

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...but do you brake earlier to avoid tapping his rear like I do ?
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Yes, I usually brake earlier around the corners, but find a way to accelerated quickly out of the straights. Some people do the brake-check, which I always use to overtake them if my reaction was quick enough:lol: On the Nurburgring, it's easy to overtake on the carousel if you keep yourself on the banking, many guys avoid it to prevent spinning out.
 
I simply don't overtake online, anytime I attempt it, I'm subsequently rammed into those lovely magnetic walls and sliding along the grass until the car stops.
 
I'm big on racing clean and online I pretty much stick to the Nordshcliefe which is a tough course to pass on. It's all about being patient and waiting for the right turn, waiting for the mistake. Too many people try dive on the inside line through corners and there just isn't enough room, they always wind up bumping the guy on the outside off the track. Stick close and wait for the guy in front to take a poor line and then pounce.
 
I find online racing very similar to real races I watch on tv. Almost always there is an accident in the first corner. Some driver will brake too late and ram e guy in front (see kimi raikkonen and Lewis Hamilton as examples). Other drivers will crash going for 1st place (see ayrton senna).

I personally don't mind the crashing, but don't like the driving backward guys.
 
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I find online racing very similar to real races I watch on tv. Almost always there is an accident in the first corner. Some driver will brake too late and ram e guy in front (see kimi raikkonen and Lewis Hamilton as examples). Other drivers will crash going for 1st place (see ayrton senna).

I personally don't mind the crashing, but don't like the driving backward guys.
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The thing is that first corner crashes are frustating both IRL and in GT5:ouch::grumpy:

As for the driving backwards, PD should implement a system where driving backwards for more than 100 meters causes you to become a ghost car or get kicked from the race itself.
 
I race as cleanly as I can and always try for zero-contact. There will be opportunities to pass on most tracks. I try to only join longer races, where you have time to wait until the driver ahead makes an error and you can safely pass (or are able to pass simply because you or your car is faster).

I raced yesterday for the first time in ages (not very happy with GT5, so not playing it much) and had a fantastic race where I and another driver had both chosen the same car and tires. I have to follow him in 2nd place for 4 laps before he finally made the smallest mistake and got too wide and loose about 1/4 lap before the finish. I zipped inside and snuck past completely cleanly and took 1st with him about two tenths back. Best race I've had in a long time. I could have been a jerk and ridden his bumper, but I didn't. I could have tried late-braking and sneak inside too, but in both cases I would have risked ruining both our races. Mistakes will always happen of course, but that's what I strive for: gentleman racing all the way, every race, no exceptions.

To those who ride bumpers: Many of us older driver's brake early. That's what we learned: brake on the straights. I also drive older cars on stock suspensions in nearly all races: my brakes simply aren't as good as yours. I also nearly always drive MR or RR cars, which may not respond well to hard-braking into corners (snap oversteer). All of these things are perfectly within my rights to do. What you don't have the right to do is ride my arse and then ram me. So please, when you are sticking right on someone's bumper, just be aware that the person in front might brake way before you; not because he is trying to mess with you, but simply because that's what the car requires, or what the driver prefers. If you do hit this person, even just enough to "make him run wide" then it's your fault.
 
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I usually wait for a straight where there isn't much movement going on. But, if it's a ramming idiotic moron in front of me, then I'll do the same to him/her.

I'm not going to lie, I mainly end up towards the bottom of the pack on most races with over 500hp cars, because I get really tense and make too many mistakes. But, I always try to drive as clean as possible and move over on straights when others are trying to pass. None of that blocking bull.
 
By politely asking the player in front of me to let me pass using my microphone, for example saying: "good evening good sir, sorry to bother you but may you let me overtake you?" Always works.
 
I've always been one of those who prefers to stick close to the car in front to try and pressure them into a mistake. Overtaking has always been my one of my weak points in racing (real-life and virtual). If I do pull off an overtake, it's usually on the exit of the corner and not the entrance. This seems to have always been the case for me - even more serious online racing such as in rFactor league races I've always done it. Just my driving style I guess.
 
t.o.
One reason I don't like entering random rooms is because you don't know anyone's driving style. Who's the early braker, who's the guy that can't keep it together in the sweepers, who's the guy with the crap connection , etc.
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That's why I prefer going into random rooms, you can learn how to deal with people who have different driving styles, and possibly add new friends.

I always add someone whom I've had a good clean race with, they'll usually be online at the same time as you.
 
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On a tight circuit i try to pressure them into making a mistake, or stick the front of the car up the inside just enough to make them think twice about turning in on me. On a more open track i tend to draft or go round the outside.
 
I usually watch the person for 2 laps and see what line he takes and were he breaks
Then i usually start setting him up on the 3rd lap and wait for him to make a mistake
If there is no mistake made if i know my car can out break him and keep the racing line ill do that
If i cant out break him i will just use the draft and somewhat force him off his line. without contact if possible
And if all else fails and i cant make a clean pass i guess ill just settle for 2nd
 
I race cleanly but mine was'nt on there: up the inside with a parachute hanging out of the window! heheh
 

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