POLL: Will you be disappointed in GT6 if they removed B-Spec?

[Stephen220378]

Just merge it with A-Spec as in GT4 only this time you get less money for completing an event in B-Spec and a crap car. That way the B-Spec fans can play it and enjoy it and the rest of us don't have to bother about it. Oh and make A-Spec twice the size (at least), problem solved.

To answer the poll question, no, PD can stick B-Spec where the sun don't shine.

 

[Villain]

And once again, its not the fact that B-spec is there that bothers people, its the fact that other much more important features were done half as#ed or left out completely in order to pump resources into B-spec

Do you have priviledged insight into the design process? How do you know that there was a give-and-take between features of A-Spec and the existence of B-Spec?

For all we know, they could've made life easier on themselves by never developing B-Spec and shelling out GT5 as is. Unless you know for a fact that the developing process worked that way, you are getting worked up over baseless assumptions.

 

[Stephen220378]

Do you have priviledged insight into the design process? How do you know that there was a give-and-take between features of A-Spec and the existence of B-Spec?

For all we know, they could've made life easier on themselves by never developing B-Spec and shelling out GT5 as is. Unless you know for a fact that the developing process worked that way, you are getting worked up over baseless assumptions.

I'd say that it's pretty much a fair assumption that things were cut from the game because of the time and resources put into B-Spec. Kazunori Yamauchi seems the type of guy that has a ton of ideas for GT and if it was up to him, PD would still be working on GT5, so with that in mind I doubt they would have just made things easy for themselves. Also bear in mind the numerous delays this game had.

 

[cicua]

I voted no for lack of options. If they fixed the AI it could actually be fun. But as it is, your worst opponent in B-spec is your own driver.

 

[Stigsblkcousin]

Unlike 98% of the internet population, things that I don't use do not have the ability to annoy me. It would make a difference to me either way.

 

[GTOne2Three]

Please dont mention GT6. Only thing that will make it better is GT5 itself getting better. It's too early for this sh:censored:!

 

[GTOne2Three]

If it wasnt for prize cars I wouldnt be playng b-spec whatsoever. I get so annoyed everytime my wife watches me play B-spec, realises whats going on & starts laughing at me & telling me how quote "STUPID" my little game is.

They will never understand..

 

[CarBastard]

I don't know where the heck did Kaz get the idea of B-Spec. Seriously, nobody is interested in the "Unreal coaching simulator". It's an awful idea to start with and the way is supportes is no better.

Take note PD, for GT6 I want save during endurances and championships, and a clean an competitive AI (Without bumping, slow coaches and magical sudden rocket cars). I don't want to spens hours yelling at an idiotic AI that brakes on a 🤬 oval, or that dops the throttle and attaches to the opponents back instead of overtaking, or that drops 8 seconds a lap because I'm not giving him orders (I'm no consistency master, but only way this happens to me is in an endurance when I'm running out of tires.)

In short: no B-Spec, more premiums!!! (But no electrics please).

 

[machschnel]

B-Spec is fine, if you don't want to play it.... DON'T! There's really no point in talking about whether it should be in the game or not. You aren't required to play it, and besides, it's super easy.

You should play this instead:

No... what I would prefer is to organize someone, preferably with very little skill, to play the world's smallest violin for me, while I watch and give him little hints on how to play it better (which he may or may not listen too). And if I could do this while I'm at work using my mobile, that would be perfect.

You misunderstand. The fun isn't in playing the violin, that's a common misconception which I will dispel for you. The fun is watching some else do it, or to just tell someone to do it and walk away.

 

[Stigsblkcousin]

I don't know where the heck did Kaz get the idea of B-Spec. Seriously, nobody is interested in the "Unreal coaching simulator". It's an awful idea to start with and the way is supportes is no better.

Take note PD, for GT6 I want save during endurances and championships, and a clean an competitive AI (Without bumping, slow coaches and magical sudden rocket cars). I don't want to spens hours yelling at an idiotic AI that brakes on a 🤬 oval, or that dops the throttle and attaches to the opponents back instead of overtaking, or that drops 8 seconds a lap because I'm not giving him orders (I'm no consistency master, but only way this happens to me is in an endurance when I'm running out of tires.)

In short: no B-Spec, more premiums!!! (But no electrics please).

Saves during ENDURANCE races totally defeats the purpose of the name ENDURANCE races. I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just sayin...

 

[HuskyGT]

Although I went for the second option, I have to say that if B-Spec is here to stay, at least make it like in GT4 were B-Spec is an alternative of you driving, keeping the EXP build up and reward system that GT5 has. Also, the A-Spec to B-Spec change in mid race has to come back for the endurance races at least.

 

[CarreraGT]

Do you have priviledged insight into the design process? How do you know that there was a give-and-take between features of A-Spec and the existence of B-Spec?

For all we know, they could've made life easier on themselves by never developing B-Spec and shelling out GT5 as is. Unless you know for a fact that the developing process worked that way, you are getting worked up over baseless assumptions.

It's a pretty simple concept... Are you saying you don't understand how B-spec required time and resources to develop?

If B-spec or any other feature for that matter wasn't included, it would mean a) the game would have been finished sooner, or b) the game would have come out at the same time and the extra time would have gone towards other features.

No insight is required, it's very simple

 

[FLIGHT50]

If they made it like GT4, no. I don't like the two being separate. Allow us to use it in cases such as Endurance races and long Championship races.

 

[Cheshyrkat]

I would be highly disappointed. I find it to be an excellent diversion to the main game. I just wish you could trade off in the endurance or championship races with your AI counterpart(s).

 

[Stephen220378]

Saves during ENDURANCE races totally defeats the purpose of the name ENDURANCE races. I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just sayin...

Saves during endurance races would defeat the purpose... If the endurance races in question actually beared any resemblance to a real endurance race. What endurance race have you ever heard of where one driver drives continuously for 24hrs? Exactly, none.

So if PD made it so you drive for a few hours then your AI co-drivers took over for their stints at the wheel and then you take over again a good few hours later, following a set time pattern then saves in the game may be out of the question. As it stands the only thing GT5 endurance races have in common with real ones is cars, a track and 24hrs.

 

[msan8]

I would be happy if B-spec is removed. Pointless and boring. It discourages people from playing the game and actually racing. It should be made to another game like 'racing manager'. Just like how Fifa(you play the game) is different from Football manager (you manage the team)

 

[SS_1182]

I would definitely be disappointed if they removed B-Spec from GT6 BUT still designed it with a pointless grinding system again. If the online is great, and if it realistically offers a way to earn enough credits to fill your garage with all of the nice cars you want, then by all means flush B-Spec down the toilet.

I have no problem playing online races for hours on end if I can earn enough from it to buy my cars. They could even implement that in THIS version of the game. What's wrong with a max of 115,000 cr. for 1st place in an online event compared to B-Spec? Just base it on factors that would prevent people from exploiting it, if that's possible.


Another factor would be the A-Spec depth and replay value in GT6. This one is a letdown.

 

[premhz]

I would prefer bob gone. In Gt4 he was ok,set him off and leave him to to win/earn money. Now in GT5 you have to baby sit him all the time. He is now a pain rather than a asset,so see you later bob,it`s more fun without you.

 

[richiem2282]

B-Spec is here to stay in my opinion, didn't like it at first, but now its essential to progress through the game for me, easy money in the Dream Car Champ, lots of fun....

 

[atteiros]

I like B-spec, but as most people here have posted, they should've allowed you to use Bob as a reliever for endurance races.

What I was expecting though when they said "Manage" a team of drivers, was a full team management sim similar to GPRO but with the ability to watch live races or participate in races as a driver. That would've made me appreciate B-spec more.

 

[CeeJay]

Get rid of it! Destroy it with fire!! I can't stand it. 👎 👎 👎

If it's brought back to GT6 return it to it's useful function as it was in GT4. A helpful driver who can sub into endurance races for you. As it is now it's a time sink with no payoff once you've completed it. A level 40 B-Spec with all attached trophies/rewards will never be touched again. It's completely useless and a waste.

 

[andrez004]

B-Spec is here to stay in my opinion, didn't like it at first, but now its essential to progress through the game for me, easy money in the Dream Car Champ, lots of fun....

The money you get from B-spec won't change my mind. They should have a better system anyway.

 

[GregTheStig]

I hate the way they implemented it in GT5. I wish B-spec were just an option during endurance races like in GT4. I also hate that the prize cars are slightly better in B-spec than they are in A-spec. FFS it's a driving game!! I can't stand watching some retarded program race for me.

 

[Shinzah]

Saves during endurance races would defeat the purpose... If the endurance races in question actually beared any resemblance to a real endurance race. What endurance race have you ever heard of where one driver drives continuously for 24hrs? Exactly, none.

So if PD made it so you drive for a few hours then your AI co-drivers took over for their stints at the wheel and then you take over again a good few hours later, following a set time pattern then saves in the game may be out of the question. As it stands the only thing GT5 endurance races have in common with real ones is cars, a track and 24hrs.

Before the rules mandated around 4 hours per stint per driver per 24 hours with no more then half the race, drivers often did the full 24 hours in one stint.

The reason why the rules were mandated were because the sleep deprivation and exhaustion could be detrimental to the safety of the race and the health of the driver. You can pause, you don't have to deal with such problems.

PD Made A-Spec for A-Spec for a reason, because B-Spec was exploited gregariously for endurance races, which like was mentioned, defeats the whole purpose of "Endurance".

If you don't want to run 24 hours across two or more days by yourself, find some friends and make a weekend of it. Its not a BAD design choice to include an endurance race that requires a single sitting just because non-endurance fans don't want it.

The same goes for B-Spec, which I imagine the mods will come bomb THIS B-Spec bash fest like they did the LAST B-Spec bash fest, and the B-Spec bash fest before that.

We get it. 55.12% of this community (At this point in time) Hate B-Spec. It's been bashed into everyones skull since launch that 55.12% of this community hate B-spec. To people neutral in the matter, or who enjoy B-Spec, Its safe to say that the other 44.88% of this community is sick of hearing it.

 

[BigYoSpeck]

Saves during ENDURANCE races totally defeats the purpose of the name ENDURANCE races. I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just sayin...

But they let you pause so that also defeats the purpose. No one in their right mind is going to sit with a catheter bag on, pro plus'd to their eyeballs in front of a tv for 24h.

Not having a save doesn't make it a more authentic prospect it just means you have to leave your PS3 on chewing up power, cause wear and tear and running the risk that if the power is cut it's all for nothing.

 

[ESR_balla]

Wouldnt care, B spec's driver AI is so retarded, its shocking they released it as it is.

 

[Villain]

You misunderstand. The fun isn't in playing the violin, that's a common misconception which I will dispel for you. The fun is watching some else do it, or to just tell someone to do it and walk away.

You misunderstand. That's the World's Smallest Violin, the one you can use to play the World's Saddest Song about how much you don't like how B-Spec gives you something for nothing. Boo hoo....

 

[CarreraGT]

We get it. 55.12% of this community (At this point in time) Hate B-Spec. It's been bashed into everyones skull since launch that 55.12% of this community hate B-spec. To people neutral in the matter, or who enjoy B-Spec, Its safe to say that the other 44.88% of this community is sick of hearing it.

Fair enough, but 55.12% of people are sick of waiting for PD to finish stuffing around with B-spec and get to work on patching existing bugs.

I can understand how you get annoyed by people ragging on B-spec, but at the end of the day everyone has their own opinion. I'm sure people who don't like B-spec are sick of hearing people praise it, because the more support it gets the more PD put towards its development and, ultimately, the less they put towards the rest of the game.

Besides, a bit of healthy banter never hurt anyone 👍 Gives me something to do at work all day

 

[Stephen220378]

Before the rules mandated around 4 hours per stint per driver per 24 hours with no more then half the race, drivers often did the full 24 hours in one stint.

The reason why the rules were mandated were because the sleep deprivation and exhaustion could be detrimental to the safety of the race and the health of the driver. You can pause, you don't have to deal with such problems.

PD Made A-Spec for A-Spec for a reason, because B-Spec was exploited gregariously for endurance races, which like was mentioned, defeats the whole purpose of "Endurance".

If you don't want to run 24 hours across two or more days by yourself, find some friends and make a weekend of it. Its not a BAD design choice to include an endurance race that requires a single sitting just because non-endurance fans don't want it.

The same goes for B-Spec, which I imagine the mods will come bomb THIS B-Spec bash fest like they did the LAST B-Spec bash fest, and the B-Spec bash fest before that.

We get it. 55.12% of this community (At this point in time) Hate B-Spec. It's been bashed into everyones skull since launch that 55.12% of this community hate B-spec. To people neutral in the matter, or who enjoy B-Spec, Its safe to say that the other 44.88% of this community is sick of hearing it.

That was only one reason that I gave why GT5 endurance races bear no resemblance to real ones, I could go on but I'm sure you already know most yourself. Point is if they make it as realistic as possible then an unrealistic save can be argued against quite strongly. As the 24hr races in GT5 are unrealistic then there's no real justification for leaving out mid-race saves, because to put it simply, it's not really making it any more unrealistic than it already is.

Or another thought is if someone wants to do the race without saving the game, by all means they can do it that way and stop worrying about how other people choose to play it because it really won't affect them at all.

 

[machschnel]

We get it. 55.12% of this community (At this point in time) Hate B-Spec. It's been bashed into everyones skull since launch that 55.12% of this community hate B-spec. To people neutral in the matter, or who enjoy B-Spec, Its safe to say that the other 44.88% of this community is sick of hearing it.

You may be sick of hearing it, but majority rules and as you have so kindly pointed out, the majority "hate" B-Spec.

The majority is sick of hearing about people who like B-Spec.