Powersliding Damage

[Rafae]

Hey guys ive been powersliding alot these days and im just concerned about the damage im causing to the suspensions... I own a 2011 honda city ... its a fwd 1.3 ivtec...... Im not much concerned about the tires but its the suspension that im afraid about.. i usually power slide around corners at about 40 kph.. 60 kph at highest...

things i experience while drifting:

Easy sliding like not much effort is required
but sometimes like on new roads my tires tend to bounce off of the road like really fast....

So thats that... i just want to know if this is not causing much damage to my suspensions.. .. when i powerslide i just hold the clutch until the end where i accelerate

Milage 57000 kph.. and the car should work fine for the next for years... we will change it then

Tires: 175/65 R15

 

[niky]

Well, technically, if you're holding in the clutch, it's not powersliding. It's just drifting.

It's no worse for your suspension per se than going around a corner really fast, not unless the end of the slide comes with a jolt as grip returns. If you're getting hopping due to uneven surfaces causing the grip to come back unevenly, that's bad for your bushings.

And if you're doing this on public roads, that's bad for your license.

 

[MadMike32]

And if you're doing this on public roads, that's bad for your license.

That made me laugh way harder than it should have.

 

[Stotty]

How do you Powerslide a FWD car?

Are you using the handbrake (parking brake)?

 

[MatskiMonk]

How do you Powerslide a FWD car?

Are you using the handbrake (parking brake)?

I think he's driving in reverse 💡

edit:

Sorry meant to add an on topic bit...

In my days of sliding around in a Peugoet 106 (small FWD hatch), mostly using lift of oversteer and/or the handbrake and/or muddy roads, the only actual damage it did was when it went wrong and the wheel impacted something solid whilst not travelling in the direction it was intended.

.. also the blokes in Kwik-fit tutting and mumbling something about "cross-graze" on the rear tyres ws a little embarresing.

 

[Stotty]

60kph in reverse? With the clutch in?

 

[MatskiMonk]

60kph in reverse? With the clutch in?

Umm.. like a baws?

 

[Stotty]

In my days of sliding around in a Peugoet 106 (small FWD hatch), mostly using lift of oversteer and/or the handbrake and/or muddy roads, the only actual damage it did was when it went wrong and the wheel impacted something solid whilst not travelling in the direction it was intended.

.. also the blokes in Kwik-fit tutting and mumbling something about "cross-graze" on the rear tyres was a little embarrassing.

Yes, chucking the car in to a corner and yanking on the handbrake whilst nailing the gas... that's 'powersliding' a FWD car as far as I'm concerned.

Does tend to do damage to most suspension parts though, plus the diff and drive shafts too. I once broke an engine mount on my Orion 1.6i Ghia company car doing that, which in turn snapped the exhaust at the downpipe

 

[kikie]

As long as you are not doing this with your FWD:



and you are holding the clutch, you are not powersliding.

 

[TheCracker]

Powersliding a FWD car sounds an awful lot like tyre-smoking understeer to me.

 

[kikie]

It sounds like it maybe but it is still oversteer. But you as a race car driver already knows that.
They all make smoke.
Do you still race with your Cortina?

 

[niky]

Yes, chucking the car in to a corner and yanking on the handbrake whilst nailing the gas... that's 'powersliding' a FWD car as far as I'm concerned.

Does tend to do damage to most suspension parts though, plus the diff and drive shafts too. I once broke an engine mount on my Orion 1.6i Ghia company car doing that, which in turn snapped the exhaust at the downpipe

Your tires were too nice. Should downgrade to something really cheap, then smear them in some vaseline.

 

[Stotty]

Yeah, that would have worked for the powersliding, but might have caused subsequent problems with the 1,500-2,000 miles a week I was driving at the time

 

[niky]

Pish posh... don't smear that over the fronts. Besides, rear tires don't matter when you're commuting... though you might get funny looks for pulling up slightly askew at each stoplight...

 

[MatskiMonk]

.. actually, to add to my Peugeot 106 antics, the excessive inappropriate use of the hand brake also lead to a ruptured master cylinder, loss of brake-fluid and the negotiation of a roundabout on a dual carriageway (the A30 just north of Camborne) at 60mph with no brakes.

edit: should just clarify, I hadn't been pulling hand-brake turns on the A30, that just happened to be where I was when the brake failure became apparent.

But yeah, what he said \/

 

[Jay.]

If you are 'powersliding' on public roads then you deserve a HUGE repair bill for driving like an irresponsible idiot.

If your actions hit your bank balance hard enough then maybe you'll drive with a bit more courtesy and respect for other road users.

Powersliding is for the track!

 

[Ibonibo]

All you need is these

put them on the rear wheels and have fun

 

[Stotty]

Pish posh... don't smear that over the fronts. Besides, rear tires don't matter when you're commuting... though you might get funny looks for pulling up slightly askew at each stoplight...

I'm 46 years old... putting Vaseline on my tyres might be considered slightly immature

Plus I now have a 911, and that will do proper skids

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

If you are 'powersliding' on public roads then you deserve a HUGE repair bill for driving like an irresponsible idiot.

If your actions hit your bank balance hard enough then maybe you'll drive with a bit more courtesy and respect for other road users.

Powersliding is for the track!

I agree. Plus the op only has 2 posts so lets just hope this person is hopefully not seriously doing this on public roads.

 

[Jet Badger]

By the way, what happened to eminembeastfan?

 

[Stotty]

err... I might indulge in a bit of oversteer on the road from time to time

 

[xXKingJoshXx]

By the way, what happened to eminembeastfan?

Banned. Let's leave it at that.

 

[Rafae]

well yes using the handbrake

How do you Powerslide a FWD car?

Are you using the handbrake (parking brake)?

Well i heard that you know sliding the car on a fwd is powersliding.... not drifting and anyways.. for the people against the public roads...
i do this on empty roads or roads that have like mostly 2 cars... and i never said 60 mph i said 60 kph.. huge difference.40 kph is what i do normally and if at that speed i even hit some obstacle it wouldnt cause much damage... unless its a foot path thats horrible for the suspension.. lol its a nightmare only real

and at this speed ur least likely to lose control... so the public things cool...
and that hitting the wheel against the footpath happened in my friends car... he was passing a lane at about 60 kph and he just suddenly got the urge to drift and he just pulled the handbrake... the rear right wheel went straight into the footpath... caused him like a 3000 dollar penalty... he was just trying to show off i was like cool... and the funny thing is.. even after that happened ... all he could think about was "dude im hungry lets go grab a pizza" and we went to pizza hut in that screwed car.. (did i mention the real wheel was tottally slanted) and the car was like driving sideways .. LOL then we went home parked the car and he was like **** it

Rich dude (it was A suzuki swift 1.3 dlx) and with that car.. i think while designing it all suzuki thought about was acceleration cux it doesnt even know the meaning of traction.. oversteers like ****

thats where im impressed by the Honda City its balanced between over and understeer... and she drifts or powerslides(whatever im supposed to call it) like a beauty.. unlike another friends Yaris... ima upload a video of the powersliding on my car... not that dangerous...

 

[Stotty]

If all you're doing is pulling the handbrake on (with the clutch pedal down) the worst you'll be doing is stretching you're handbrake cable and wearing your tyres down... nothing more serious than that.

 

[Jet Badger]

Powersliding is a power induced sliding of the car. Usually used when talking about RWD cars that usually power-oversteer. Since it's pretty much against the laws of physics for a FWD car to power-oversteer (Suzuki Swift doesn't fall under that, does it?), powersliding a FWD car would mean power induced understeer. Which is not so spectacular...

 

[Slash]

If all you're doing is pulling the handbrake on (with the clutch pedal down) the worst you'll be doing is stretching you're handbrake cable and wearing your tyres down... nothing more serious than that.

My friends that have FWD cars tend to only on deserted dirt roads and even then at 30mph they have a hard time getting sideways.

 

[Mikeybc]

They're called handbrake slides on a front wheel drive car. Power slides are power induced by the driven wheels in a rear wheel drive. I don't even see the point of handbrake sliding in a FWD car.

 

[Slash]

They're called handbrake slides on a front wheel drive car. Power slides are power induced by the driven wheels in a rear wheel drive. I don't even see the point of handbrake sliding in a FWD car.

Except he floors it after it starts to slide haha.

 

[xXKingJoshXx]

FWD Burnout? IMO this is how you do it:



If it doesn't start at 3:37 or so for you, skip to that time. Although if you like burnouts, it's a fun video to watch.

Edit: Also, if you decide to watch the whole thing, just a mild language warning.

 

[Azuremen]

My friends that have FWD cars tend to only on deserted dirt roads and even then at 30mph they have a hard time getting sideways.

Your friends don't know how to drive, fact.

I have very little trouble getting most FWD cars sideways on gravel simply using weight transfer, so if they are failing with the hand brake they should just hang their heads in shame.

@Rafae - stop trying to justify your teenage powered ego as a driver. You're 17 with a Honda Fit (that I suspect you don't even own), and damn near know nothing about about driving, so stop trying to be Loeb and perhaps focus on learning to use punctuation a bit better... because triple posting run on sentences with poor structure just makes many of us all the less patient.