Project cars DLC

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Awong124
For me on the softs the fronts wear more than twice as fast. I don't think driving style and setup will make up that big of a difference. I didn't even change the setup that much. Default setup is already pretty good.
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The default set up is geared towards understeer, so of course it'll wear the front quicker. I had to change a bit to get more bite out of the front end, and around Bathurst the tyre wear was pretty even, despite me being pretty hard on the fronts around there.

Driving style and car set up makes an enormous difference to tyre wear in Pcars. You can set the car up with a strong front end and a looser rear, and if you aren't careful with it you'll wear the rears much quicker, or you can go for a safe understeery car at the limit, and if you push hard into the corners you'll wear the fronts much quicker.

It all depends on personal preferences, and how much you push the car.
 
Captain_tiggles
Gotta say, the Radbull is a whole kettle of crazy... Like the Yellowbird on steroids. No, make that the yellowbird with a reactor in the back.

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Are you drifting the Radbul using the stock setup? I tried doing this and find it to be horrible so I've been trying my own setups although it takes a while to perfect.
 
E46 M3 Man
Are you drifting the Radbul using the stock setup? I tried doing this and find it to be horrible so I've been trying my own setups although it takes a while to perfect.
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It was a stock, just took a bit of gas out of it and dumped my T300rs steering angle down to 540 degrees... Once I stopped driving with logic the car seemed to run a bit smoother but honestly it would be easier to drive a shopping trolley :D
 
Having a feeling that the next DLC will probably be Indy car + track OR corvette/Mercedes+track and NOT everything combined. :confused:
 
NITTO NT05 is a street legal radial high performance tire similar to Advan Neova AD08 and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires ( it has excellent dry grip for track ready performance ), the NT05 is well known also for good durability ( UTQG 140-200 ), often still has good grip after 2000+km of heavy use. If Pcars needs special tires made for drifting, something is wrong there.
 
Ridox2JZGTE
NITTO NT05 is a street legal radial high performance tire similar to Advan Neova AD08 and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires ( it has excellent dry grip for track ready performance ), the NT05 is well known also for good durability ( UTQG 140-200 ), often still has good grip after 2000+km of heavy use. If Pcars needs special tires made for drifting, something is wrong there.
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The next things has been said from Casey Ringley:

"New tires for it (Nitto NT05) are a modified version of our Nitto NT01 road tire with better behavior ‘post-peak’ to aid control when in a big slide. It works on some ideas which became apparent to our tire guru after getting to do some ride-alongs with Formula D drivers. Basically it adds lateral grip when sliding as a result of the tire surface turning into a gooey layer with slower response and balances with how it fades away from heat buildup."

They're available for the Radbull mx5. And also for the scion "rocket bunny" and the M1 Stanceworks... They are looking for make them available also for other cars.

He also responded this to a person ho asked if they are essential "drift" tyres:

"They aren't a "drift" tire per say. They are a new tire which has updated behavior just over the grip limit. Ideally, the other tires in the same category have the same tweaks but it makes it a safer change to only apply the updated model to a newer tire."

So, resume... They aren't essential "drift" Tyres, but they're be better for drift with.
 
Donnced
The next things has been said from Casey Ringley:

"New tires for it (Nitto NT05) are a modified version of our Nitto NT01 road tire with better behavior ‘post-peak’ to aid control when in a big slide. It works on some ideas which became apparent to our tire guru after getting to do some ride-alongs with Formula D drivers. Basically it adds lateral grip when sliding as a result of the tire surface turning into a gooey layer with slower response and balances with how it fades away from heat buildup."

They're available for the Radbull mx5. And also for the scion "rocket bunny" and the M1 Stanceworks... They are looking for make them available also for other cars.

He also responded this to a person ho asked if they are essential "drift" tyres:

"They aren't a "drift" tire per say. They are a new tire which has updated behavior just over the grip limit. Ideally, the other tires in the same category have the same tweaks but it makes it a safer change to only apply the updated model to a newer tire."

So, resume... They aren't essential "drift" Tyres, but they're be better for drift with.
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http://www.nittotire.com/passenger-tires/nt05-max-performance-tire/

http://www.nittotire.com/race-tires/nt01-dot-compliant-competition-road-course-tire/

You can drift with NT01 as well in real life, no specific tire necessary.

So many things wrong with the quote there, the NT01 is a better tire than NT05, specific for track ( DOT competition tire ), while NT05 can be used in the street ( including wet ), in real life, you can pick Advan AD08, Bridgestone RE01 or Pilot Cup for drifting or track racing. What matters is how the car is setup, not the tire.

There's no such thing as a better tire for drift, you can drift on budget all season tires, it all depend on how much power the car has, how much grip you want to have. The high speed drift with big power car and big angle of FD or D1GP required to use high grip radial tires like NITTO NT05, but you can use other brand radial tires as well, like Michelin Pilot, Advan Neova AD series, Bridgestone RE series, Toyo R tires etc.

Ideally, any street legal high performance tires in Pcars can be used to drift, track racing / grip driving etc, with only car setup that needs to be changed to suit, not the tires getting specific treatment.
 
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Ridox2JZGTE
http://www.nittotire.com/passenger-tires/nt05-max-performance-tire/

http://www.nittotire.com/race-tires/nt01-dot-compliant-competition-road-course-tire/

You can drift with NT01 as well in real life, no specific tire necessary.

So many things wrong with the quote there, the NT01 is a better tire than NT05, specific for track ( DOT competition tire ), while NT05 can be used in the street ( including wet ), in real life, you can pick Advan AD08, Bridgestone RE01 or Pilot Cup for drifting or track racing. What matters is how the car is setup, not the tire.

There's no such thing as a better tire for drift, you can drift on budget all season tires, it all depend on how much power the car has, how much grip you want to have. The high speed drift with big power car and big angle of FD or D1GP required to use high grip radial tires like NITTO NT05, but you can use other brand radial tires as well, like Michelin Pilot, Advan Neova AD series, Bridgestone RE series, Toyo R tires etc.

Ideally, any street legal high performance tires in Pcars can be used to drift, track racing / grip driving etc, with only car setup that needs to be changed to suit, not the tires getting specific treatment.
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Nothing is wrong in my opinion, I just said what Casey Ringley (chief car developer of Pcars) said... If they made the Tyres not like the real ones that is not my fault.

I even don't really care about drifting, because I just like more racing.
But I just wanted to give the information that the developers of the game said..

And they new Tyres works better for drifting and are available for 3 cars.. That's all
 
Ridox2JZGTE
http://www.nittotire.com/passenger-tires/nt05-max-performance-tire/

http://www.nittotire.com/race-tires/nt01-dot-compliant-competition-road-course-tire/

You can drift with NT01 as well in real life, no specific tire necessary.

So many things wrong with the quote there, the NT01 is a better tire than NT05, specific for track ( DOT competition tire ), while NT05 can be used in the street ( including wet ), in real life, you can pick Advan AD08, Bridgestone RE01 or Pilot Cup for drifting or track racing. What matters is how the car is setup, not the tire.

There's no such thing as a better tire for drift, you can drift on budget all season tires, it all depend on how much power the car has, how much grip you want to have. The high speed drift with big power car and big angle of FD or D1GP required to use high grip radial tires like NITTO NT05, but you can use other brand radial tires as well, like Michelin Pilot, Advan Neova AD series, Bridgestone RE series, Toyo R tires etc.

Ideally, any street legal high performance tires in Pcars can be used to drift, track racing / grip driving etc, with only car setup that needs to be changed to suit, not the tires getting specific treatment.
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He isn't saying that the NT05 is better drift tire than the NT01 in real life, he is just saying that the NT05 in the game is a NT01 with new (experimental) values to make them more realistic in a sliding situation.
 
c172fccc
He isn't saying that the NT05 is better drift tire than the NT01 in real life, he is just saying that the NT05 in the game is a NT01 with new (experimental) values to make them more realistic in a sliding situation.
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NT01 is not the same as NT05 in real life, they are whole different level of tire. NT01 can be shaved to drive like slick tires and it has much poorer wet grip.
So they used NT01 with better lateral grip tweak for NT05, interesting way of doing it. Tweak the sliding grip for the tire so the car can drift, gotcha. Why do SMS limit specific tires for drift ? How about other street tires, will they need specific tweak to drift ? That's what boggles me, it's not the tire that needs to be worked on, but the way the car is setup and driven to drift or not, the physics should be versatile enough to handle it.
 
Maybe SMS should have labeled the tires as "SMS Drift Tires" and not NT05. Problem solved?

Although the Radbull should not have been added to the game. Problem solved.
 
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