Project Motor Racing General Discussion

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Agree. The cars are interesting, but the driving, the graphics, the AI, the sound...all the rest is subpar compared with any other sim out there....damn, even compared to raceroom
 
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On PC, I’d pass, there are better driving, looking and online options, uninstalled PMR last week as it’s just not getting the time from me.

On PS5 I’d consider it if I didn’t have a PC.
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On PC there is Automobilista 2 which is what PMR should be.

Too bad it is not available on consoles, such a great sim.
 
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I tried it due to the free week. The graphics are alright, not a deal breaker. It is definitely nice to see 3D trees instead of GT7's 2D trees which always turn around to always face you to keep the illusion of 3D trees, lol. And hey, it has got rear view mirror in chase cam!! And I think I like the radar here better than in GT7.

But! Racing is about pushing to the limits, right? This is where PMR is falling apart for me. The DualSense haptics are not quite well implemented. Yes I am able to drive cars very well. They nailed the controller driving much better than Project CARS 2, kudos to them about it. I can drive cars without spinning out at slow corner exits. Yes, there is trigger resistance but it is not dynamically reacting to grip loss. As a result, I have no idea how much to brake and how much throttle to apply at the limit. There is just no indication when the car starts slipping away. GT7 does not do it very well either but it is still barely a pass for me. The best grip related haptics are in EA Sports WRC. I don't know much about game development but I think it must be a very easy for the studio to fix the haptics to indicate loss of grip. Hope they add it to the list of improvements to do, especially since it should probably not take much time to implement and to test.
 
Still on the fence if I want Rennsport or PMR. From what I heard, both games are pretty rough. Don't know what's more tolerable, though.
 
GTvsForza
Still on the fence if I want Rennsport or PMR. From what I heard, both games are pretty rough. Don't know what's more tolerable, though.
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On console, PMR is not a must have. It’s a game that if you want to experience circuits and cars other console games don’t have and you want to experience a taste of some things pc games do have.
 
GTvsForza
Still on the fence if I want Rennsport or PMR. From what I heard, both games are pretty rough. Don't know what's more tolerable, though.
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If you have a PC, then you're going to want to go with AMS2 or even Raceroom instead of this or Rennsport. Both PMR and Rennsport were super overhyped and underbaked messes, although PMR got better post-launch support and has much more content (even if it's still not a lot by other sim's standards).

If you only have a PS5, I'd say stick to GT7, or buy PMR if you really want a sim and GT7's physics just aren't doing it for you.
 
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Hmm, mid 2027, I wonder if that deadline will be truthful or it's going to be rushed out and then need loads of updates/patches etc
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They've said they won't release it until career mode is done. It's still a glitchy mess on PC so happy to wait for a more polished product.
 
It’s not a glitchy mess on pc, it runs very stable at the moment. There are some hiccups here and there after updates but devs are fast to address issues. It’s my main sim at the moment and it runs really good. Also, there was a 24h lemans race last weekend with more than 10k participants and no major issues.
If they can get the current state to console, you’ll be blown away compared to the incomplete games that are pmr and Rennsport
 
For PS5 players I think PMR is quite complimentary to GT7 because they are opposites in many ways. Plus it’s cheap (when on sale) and with Aris at the helm has a chance to improve.

I love GT7 for what it does well, but if I want to drive a daily race in a GT4 car that doesn’t feel like a brick, in a lobby with up to 32 people, at Imola or Sebring or Silverstone, with qualifying, with a nice number of laps, with tyre temps and damage, pits you drive down yourself, etc, then PMR is a nice option to have.

Plus now we have BeamNG and soon GT7 Spec 4 pt2, and LMU next year, being a PS5-focussed racer is pretty good right now!
 
psychoazubi
It’s not a glitchy mess on pc, it runs very stable at the moment. There are some hiccups here and there after updates but devs are fast to address issues. It’s my main sim at the moment and it runs really good. Also, there was a 24h lemans race last weekend with more than 10k participants and no major issues.
If they can get the current state to console, you’ll be blown away compared to the incomplete games that are pmr and Rennsport
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I’m intrigued to see how the lmu port will look on consoles. I think too many people are expecting it to be exactly the same as the pc version but i think some sacrifices will be made to have the same level of performance
 
Tried the demo, I quite like the racing and it felt fun for a while. Very lacking in graphics, cars and tracks though so maybe I'm gonna wait until the complete edition or huge sale maybe.
 
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I’m intrigued to see how the lmu port will look on consoles. I think too many people are expecting it to be exactly the same as the pc version but i think some sacrifices will be made to have the same level of performance
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I think visually there isn't much to worry about, it's not a particularly GPU intensive game, the tech underpinning it is on the older side from the DX11 days so it should be absolutely fine in that regard on consoles.

CPU is where they will run into bottlenecks and I think the biggest sacrifice I expect to see on consoles is a cap on AI numbers. Good PC's can feel the strain with a full multi class grid so a console will likely have to cut back there. Which will have a negative impact on the games reception if the official WEC game cannot offer a full WEC grid of up to 62 cars.

They're getting outside assistance with the console port so I'm sure there will be a lot of room for optimsation, the AI use simplified physics already, there's plenty of overhead GPU side, so we'll see. But if visuals are a primary concern, I don't think there is much to worry about.
 
I'm glad they made the game free to try for the week, on games like this you can't tell how good they are just from watching others play and reading reviews so it's good to get hands on. I only got to try it for a day and half but it's a good first impression.

Handling
Feels solid, so many of these PC simulators feel rubbish on controller but it feels solid, each car has it's own character which is refreshing coming from Gran Turismo where on pad at least everything feels a little sterile and dull at the moment.

Car/Track List
Not the most cars but each category seems to have a decent selection which for a game like this is better than having a huge selection that don't really work together, it looks like the DLC is well curated too to keep the same. The circuit list is fine, if you compare it to the old Project CARS games it's disappointing but there is still enough on there to keep you entertained.

Graphics
If you compare against Gran Turismo it's not going to win but nothing is, it's still a good enough looking game and some of the visual details like the grass being flattened when you run off is nice, my only real complaint is the rain, maybe it's okay from other cameras but from chase cam it's a bit jarring, almost like how it was originally on the GTA Trilogy remake.

Licensing
This is my biggest complaint, they have obviously struggled with some big omissions like Ferrari (especially after we saw those cars in the development shots pre-launch), losing Le Mans from the last DLC hurts too. It's not just that though, almost every car has fictional liveries or logos substituted which cheapens how the game looks, given that the game is still £65 that doesn't feel right. There are a few mod packs to fix some of the classes (GT1, LMP, Group C) which are welcome but other classes would benefit from the same, the community is not as big as other games and it shows up there.

Overall I like it, GTA is going to take most peoples gaming time for the next few months but I'd definitely like to come back to this in the future so will keep and eye out for the sales.
 
Still enjoying the game the NGT class are really fun and easy to drive. Still haven't done any races against the AI just driving and tweaking cars. Unfortunately I haven't driven other cars because I started chasing time on the track. I am going to stop tuning and continue to try out different cars and track combos
 
Endurance DLC should have landed today, but nothing for now...
 
zaxs
Endurance DLC should have landed today, but nothing for now...
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From recollection of previous ones, it doesn't happen until ~6pm UTC.
 
 
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